Posts by slydriver52

Olivia Castillo562 said:polleosport offers free shipping on orders over $133. I didn't bother with the mail; I just picked it up directly from their storefront. From what I’ve seen online, everything Optimum Nutrition in the States seems to hover around the $470-$$167 mark. If I'm off base, someone please set me straight 🙂 and point me toward a better deal (unless we're talking about a local flea market)

Polleosport still has that sale price running, but soon enough, Optimum will be pushing past 50 bucks in Canada too. You won't be able to bank on these prices once we fully integrate into the union.
Prices in America are going to climb just as fast...

Olivia Castillo562 said:I'm also curious how that works through eBay. Honestly, I’m pretty skeptical about this stuff—I want to actually see what I'm buying, especially since scams are everywhere lately. I was thinking about just driving over to Canada to pick up a 10lb tub. I doubt customs would give me any grief.

Customs won't be an issue for you, and as far as eBay goes, that stock is coming from Canada anyway.
The real kicker is that you'll burn at least $23 in gas just getting there if you're coming from a place like Chicago, depending on your vehicle and the mileage. As for those hidden fees, with Prosport
, you're looking at 98 cents, while everyone else is taking a 1% cut of the package value. Just watch the expiration dates regardless of where you buy.
Also, make sure the prices on that site include sales tax; some shops list prices without tax for regions outside the Eurozone. Your best bet is to just head straight to the Canadian domain (.si).

Are there seriously still people out there naive enough to buy MyProtein bags that don't even list the ingredients, only for it to taste like nothing more than plain powdered milk?🤦

Some people just never learn.............................

velvetmoose9 said:Look, I’m just a regular forum user, nothing more. 😁 Just like everyone else here, really. 😁
I’m still waiting for those suggestions you promised—a four-component whey blend that actually undercuts Weider's pricing. And what's the deal with your obsession with Inkospor and Weider? Is it pure competition, or is there something else at play? Did you even bother to check whose Weider we're talking about? Also, where did I ever claim one specific product was superior to another in a head-to-head comparison? Come on, put some actual effort into your argument. 😁 You can do better than this. 😍
I don't expect you to know exactly where specific manufacturers source their raw materials, but what exactly are you basing your theory on? It's not like I have any insight into their proprietary processing methods. Remember how much we spent back in Germany?!
I'll give you this: calling something "fast" or "slow" is a simplification. But it's a necessary one to make products understandable to the average consumer. Reality is messy; it depends on a massive range of variables. The cost difference between whey and egg protein is just one example among many. By the way, have you ever even stepped foot in a KIF?

There are plenty of four-component blends out there if you actually look. I don't know why you're fixating on that. I never mentioned it, and I'm certainly not going to spend my time answering your questions. Arguing over supplement quality is a waste of breath when you consider that even companies in Germany source their raw materials from outside the European Union—supposedly from China. Regardless, the price tag on Weider and Inkospor is unjustifiably high, and even Germans would tell you that. I'm done with this...

velvetmoose9 said:Which amino acid source is "faster" for the human body to utilize—whey or egg? (A careful, attentive reader would have caught which two sources I was comparing in my previous post; honestly, I could have mentioned casein too).
I previously asked you, quite politely and civilly, to provide an answer to @Ashley Baker34/">@@Ashley Baker34 regarding some other, third type of four-component protein powder. You ignored me, and now you’re pivoting back to four-component powders, citing whey. So, tell me: which specific product are we talking about, and what are those four whey components?
Where, exactly, did I insult American products? It's difficult to make sweeping nationalistic claims these days about who owns what, but explain this to me: by your "traditional-nationalist" logic, whose product is Weider ProteinPlus80? The fact remains that it is manufactured and packaged in Germany under their standards. And that is exactly the product I recommend. You're being contradictory. Explaining the difference between an "American" product made in the States versus that same "American" product manufactured in Germany is easy enough for anyone familiar with the regulatory differences between the USA and the EU/Germany.
Feel free to enlighten us all on how Germans don't produce high-quality goods (and again: quote where I ever claimed that Germany produces the " highest quality" products), and tell us who actually does—this community will be eternally grateful for your insight.

You still haven't mentioned what you actually do for a living to justify being such a "genius."
Frankly, everything said above isn't even worth a response because I have zero interest in debating you. I don't understand why you feel the need to jump into my comments when they have nothing to do with you. My point was that Weider is expensive; if you calculate the cost per gram of those 500g tubs, just imagine the price of a 2.5kg bulk bag. Inkospor is also overpriced. We could argue for days about which brand is superior and reach absolutely nowhere, because neither you nor I know exactly where these manufacturers source their raw materials or the precise methods they use to process them.
"Fast" or "slow" is a relative term. When I first started training, the go-to supplement for amino acid sources was strictly egg whites post-workout, though manufacturers eventually pivoted toward whey, likely because it's cheaper to produce.

velvetmoose9 said:1. The answer is right there in the question—providing a wider variety of amino acids from different food sources avoids unnecessary debate. It’s the old "eat a diverse diet" rule. Timing matters significantly here, specifically regarding "fast" amino acids (mostly whey) versus "slow" ones (primarily egg), alongside a solid profile of BCAAs and glutamine. The human body is a finely tuned machine; when you provide a broader spectrum of high-quality components, it often selects exactly what it needs most effectively. Certainly, there is a specific niche of recreational athletes for whom a single-source protein (like whey, egg, milk isolate, or casein) might be a better choice during certain training phases. My response was directed at Ashley Baker34's inquiry, explaining why a four-component 80+ blend is a perfectly acceptable choice for her 😁. 2. Germany still maintains a relatively robust regulatory system for dietary supplements. Granted, if my memory serves, it isn't quite as stringent as it was a few years back. I recall Inkospor producing exceptionally high-quality products under the rigorous oversight of the German Sport University Cologne—though I can't speak to current standards or specific criteria. I am aware that the USA has its own regulatory systems, but in my opinion, they fall short compared to the German standard in most instances. Ultimately, choosing what to consume is a matter of personal preference.

Eggs aren't a slow protein source... A four-component blend could just be a whey powder blend rather than a mix of different protein types. And the idea that Germans produce the highest quality goods is highly debatable.
Besides, PowerBar is an American company licensed by Nestlé, and it was manufactured in Germany for the European market. You're trashing American products, yet those exact American brands are what dominate the German market. I have to wonder how that’s possible if their regulatory system is supposedly so superior, unless there's something else at play.

velvetmoose9 said:Do you have any suggestions for a cheaper alternative—specifically a 4-component blend manufactured in Germany? I don't follow the scene on the regular forums anymore...

I don't get it. Why are you fixated on a 4-component blend, and why does it strictly have to be from Germany?

Ashley Baker34 said:What’s the verdict on this one?

The price tag is ridiculous.

Jack Ward82 said:Personally, I take it right after my workout... though the gold standard would be mixing it into a daily rotation with some whey (maybe Sintha in the morning and afternoon, then whey paired with glucose after training, right?). Honestly, though, I'm not complaining. This way works just fine for me. 🙂

My advice? Stop nitpicking. BSN is a solid choice. You should also give General Motors probiotics a shot—the flavors are top-tier.

Jack Ward82 said:Personally, I think Syntha-6 Chocolate tastes the best, but you have to realize it isn't just pure whey 😢

So, by your logic, it’s not good for post-workout either?
If elite athletes can handle protein blends, you certainly can.

Ashley Baker34 said:Where can I pick up some saws??

Check Home Depot, I think...

Sam Roberts said:I don't even bother sweetening them because they all taste mediocre to me, so I just got used to it (they're better if you mix them with milk). The only exception is the ON Casein chocolate; the texture is bizarre—it feels almost lumpy in your mouth. Anyone else getting that?
XXL is for the girls 😁

That gym is where you'll find top-tier tennis pros, football players, and the occasional basketball star, plus a few powerlifters. Most people there are just casual lifters, including some shot putters. It isn't exactly a high-end boutique fitness club, even though it’s packed with bodybuilders, but it works because the floor space is massive.
Getting a bit off topic here...

Sam Roberts said:Look, buddy, don't get cocky behind a keyboard. I asked about the ratios because the context was unclear. Flavor is flavor. I haven't stumbled upon anything truly legendary yet anyway. Everything tastes pretty much the same, and you can always tweak it to taste better.

First, take a look at how you actually phrased that. I’m probably the last person you want to call arrogant online—you can meet me in an XXL gym if you want to test that theory.
My impression was that your tone wasn't exactly polite. Maybe I'm wrong, but if so, it's clearly just a massive breakdown in communication.
And "flavor is flavor" is a weak argument. If you’re drinking something bland or unpleasant every single day, eventually you'll just stop. What's the point of consuming something that requires extra sweeteners just to make it tolerable?

Sam Roberts said:What ratios? It tastes like any other protein shake—nothing special. Just stir in a spoonful of cocoa if you want more flavor.

Why is there always someone playing expert when they clearly have no clue what they’re talking about?
I'm talking about the protein source ratio. If we're discussing a whey blend, you need to know the specific breakdown between standard WPC80 concentrate and isolate. If a blend is roughly 70% concentrate and 30% isolate, that should be explicitly stated. You can't just list "concentrate, isolate, and hydrolysate" without providing the actual percentages. Furthermore, with brands like Optimal, nobody actually knows the true glutamine content because the label is intentionally vague, using terms like "glutamine & precursors."
For your information, flavor is what sells the product. It's a massive factor, and companies hire specialists specifically to master it.

Hi there!

I'm looking for some whey protein just to use as a post-workout meal replacement. I was thinking about getting this one: [url says:
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Is it any good? I don't really know my way around this stuff; they all sound exactly the same to me.
The most important thing for me is that it actually tastes decent, because I'm pretty picky when it comes to flavors.

Also, what kind of glucose goes into this—is it the same stuff people buy at the local pharmacy? How much should I be taking...

P.S. I realize buying in bulk is cheaper in the long run, but I need to test the waters first. If I hate the taste, I don't want to waste $40...

Just grab some sample packs for about $3.25 and try out different brands and flavors.
The one you mentioned is decent, but the price makes it a bad deal. It isn't the actual American Optimal; it's just a version produced overseas. The flavor profile is different from the US version, and you're paying a premium for it. Powerbar is one of the few manufacturers that actually provides clear percentage ratios on the label, unlike something like Optimal.

Ashley Baker34 said:That's exactly what I'm wondering about too. We're just waiting on an answer.🙂

Just go grab some sample packs for around $3.25 and test out different flavors and brands.
The one mentioned is decent, but at that price point, you aren't getting much value. It’s not the real American Optimal; it’s that stuff they manufacture overseas. The flavor profile is completely different from the US version, yet they charge a premium for it. Powerbar is actually one of the few manufacturers that clearly lists their percentage ratios on the label, unlike, say, Optimal.

Steven Lopez35 said:We didn't run any clinical trials here. The kid just asked what supplements we were using, so we told him whey and creatine. He decided to jump on board, and within two months, he went from a 35lb dumbbell bench to 70lbs and bumped his deadlift from 150lbs to 285lbs.

Just focus on the gym and leave the rest alone.

That’s my point. I have zero clue if the creatine actually moved the needle for him or not; we’ll never truly know.🙂

Tyler Wood4 - absolutely nothing. It's irrelevant whether you mix it with milk or water.

It’s obvious the kid left out some key details.😉
This isn't about the creatine.

jadeowl said:I have one question... mixing whey with water just doesn't sit right with me; it constantly makes me nauseous. Could I get away with using milk instead? Maybe something like 1% or something similar, nothing too heavy. 😁
I know everyone insists you have to use water so it absorbs faster, but it's just not working for me. 🙂

You can absolutely mix whey with low-fat milk. Grab some 0.5% Visa.

Steven Lopez35 said:I’m still sticking to my guns: you don't need to "save" creatine for later. Personally, I didn't jump on it right away, but we dragged a buddy of mine into the gym with a solid program, proper nutrition, and correct technique. He made a massive leap in just a few months, and frankly, we’ll never know how much better he could have looked if he’d had creatine from day one. We put way too much weight on something as mundane as creatine—not to mention cycling or ephedrine (which, let's be honest, isn't really my lane since I'm not looking to go down that road right now). As for loading phases, I don't think they're strictly necessary, but if you want to hit peak saturation faster, why not?

Did you guys actually test him before and after his cycle? How much progress did he make? Did you run something like a VO2 max treadmill test? What sport does the guy even play? It’s honestly "weird" to claim a guy ballooned in size just from taking roughly 25g of creatine a day🙂.
I’m not going there regarding ephedrine, and I don't want to keep repeating myself about the creatine.

Elizabeth Gomez3 said:Clearly doesn't do ballet... 😉 whatever sport he's in, at 5'11" and 143 lbs, he's thin. Just like his coach told him, he needs mass!

Either you’re playing dumb to avoid my point, or you genuinely don't get it.
The issue isn't whether he needs a few extra pounds—it's that the advice you're pushing is fundamentally flawed. Go ahead, define "balanced nutrition" for a 16-year-old kid training in combat sports. And explain how someone can lose their conditioning if they're actually eating correctly. While you're at it, define what "athletic form" even means. What's the difference between a healthy diet and an athlete's diet? Let's hear it.