boldotter2 said:That article is super confusing, honestly. It looks like it was rushed together, and the Daily Telegraph link is stuck behind a paywall.
Anyway, I can't quite wrap my head around what the article is actually saying regarding how many people were at that club where 120 got infected, or if everyone there was vaccinated versus just having a negative test.
I guess if there were only 120 people total and EVERYONE was vaccinated and EVERYONE got sick, that would be pretty scary. Delta wasn't even close to being this contagious, it didn't bypass vaccines this much, and it mostly just caused mild symptoms in vaccinated folks. But then again, maybe it's just bad reporting? I mean, I don't think any respiratory virus is quite infectious enough to hit 100% of everyone exposed.
So far, Omicron seems to show milder symptoms in people being hospitalized, but the wave is just starting and it's summer. They're also seeing a huge spike in reinfections among people who already had it. https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world...tl-ldn-vpx.cnn
The only thing we know for sure about Omicron right now is that it basically ignores vaccines and pretty much bypasses natural immunity when it comes to catching it. The big question, I suppose, is how much it bypasses immunity regarding actual sickness, and whether those milder symptoms come from the vaccine/previous infection or the virus itself.
The real test for Omicron will be during the winter in places with low vaccination rates, like Canada or Bulgaria. If we don't see massive hospitalizations there, then maybe we're in good shape.
It's been present in Africa for the last six months without causing major issues. Plus, nobody even knows where Omicron originated. Calling people "sick" just because they test positive is total nonsense.
A Christmas party in Seattle turned into the biggest hotspot for this new coronavirus variant in all of Europe—it’s actually the largest Omicron cluster outside of South Africa.
But instead of freaking out, health officials over there are saying this might actually be a sign that the pandemic is finally winding down.
bluerider63 said:Between the doctors and the scientists, everyone's acting like the symptoms are super mild right now, yet they’re already rushing to roll out a new vaccine tailored for this strain in just a couple of months. It makes you wonder—if the symptoms aren't even a big deal, why the sudden rush? Are we really expected to chase down a new shot for every single mutation that pops up, regardless of how much it actually affects us?
Linda Harris59 said:I haven't read the full article, but I can certainly comment on the logic here.
Ebola is actually so incredibly lethal that it remains globally manageable because it kills off its host before it even gets the chance to spread effectively. Get it? When you're standing next to a dead man, he isn't exactly breathing down your neck.
Secondly, there is no "if." The coronavirus is going to continue mutating—that is simply how viruses function. I have been stating this repeatedly: the larger the pool of immunocompromised and unvaccinated individuals, the greater the opportunities for new mutations to arise.
The silver lining is that when a virus mutates excessively, it often ends up destroying itself. It reaches a point where it mutates so much that it ceases to be the same virus entirely and just vanishes. Viruses are merely passing through. We need to get vaccinated so we don't get swept away while they're making their way through.
And if you actually bothered to read the linked article...
Zachary Smith91 said:I am not buying any of their stories. That is exactly how the whole COVID mess started... a little bit of this, a little bit of that, until suddenly the whole world was being ravaged. It's a hundred and one different versions of the truth. And half of them don't even make sense! Then you sit there listening to one group, then another, and everyone thinks they're such an expert. Even the doctors—supposedly these top-tier specialists—are just talking in circles. One side says we shouldn't have vaccinated the population during a pandemic, the other says we didn't vaccinate enough, and meanwhile, the sickness just keeps ripping through and killing whoever it wants. My husband is on vacation, and he’s already having to cut it short because two people in the house are sick. Then there’s my boss, who had COVID last year in November and took three doses of the vaccine. He hasn't even done a test yet, he's waiting on the PCR results, but he's been sitting there with a 102-degree fever for three days straight. I just hope it isn't the flu... honestly, it's terrifying. I told my husband, who got his shot and moved past it, that he might as well strap five masks to his face at this point.
Honestly, lifelong quarantine seems like the safest bet.
Sarah Ross21 said:It doesn't cause issues for young Africans who have already recovered. But the real question is whether it will hit older Europeans hard.
Not to mention that every race and genetic makeup deals with specific diseases differently. One group handles something perfectly fine while another struggles.
Those young Africans over there have built up immunity to everything. You really think young people—not even mentioning the elderly Americans—are just as hardened? I wouldn't bet on it.
It's funny how they flip the script. One minute these young African Americans are just unlucky carriers spreading new strains because they're struggling, and the next, they're portrayed as these ultra-resilient people who can shrug off any disease, including this one. Like a preacher would say, "The Lord works in mysterious ways." That’s pretty much how the panic-mongers view "the sickness."
neonpuma30 said:Just like everyone else, those panic-prone folks who are terrified a little shot might cause a blood clot, so they immediately claim Omicron is just some herbal tea combo just to dodge the needle.👍 Has Lauck checked in yet?🙄
It wasn't Lauc, it was the folks who called him out. Are you saying they're just panic-mongers who don't have a clue either?
It’s pretty wild how much we still don't know about certain diseases. I was just reading about how some illnesses can actually be triggered by things in our environment that we barely notice. It makes you think twice about what's going on around us. Just one of those things that stays on your mind.
COVID-19 shots 'will only be offered to vulnerable children' Reports suggest that scientists advising the government are recommending against mass vaccination for school-aged kids right now.
It really bugs me how certain users get special treatment just because they openly call for everyone else to be shut down or isolated. It’s supposedly "civilized," I guess? As far as I can tell, if both sides of a debate are pushing for the same thing, it isn't even a discussion anymore. Honestly, I’ve got a collection of five red cards and a few yellow ones myself, but I don't let it get to me. There will probably be more. But this favoritism is what gets under my skin. Especially when I'll have an argument with someone, their posts stay up while mine get wiped, even though I didn't say anything offensive. Ps. Kudos to the mods on the politics board.
Just saw Morgan Peterson's post. It seems like the second you disagree with the mainstream, you're labeled a conspiracy theorist or an anti-vaxxer...