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Chloe Nguyen21 said:Honestly, it seems pretty unrealistic, unfortunately. The terrain isn't really working in favor of the Ukrainians—you've got a major city with tons of civilians still stuck there, and all that. Plus, if Kherson falls, then Nova Kakhovka goes down too, and that dam controls the water supply for Crimea. That’s huge for the Russians, so I suspect they'd send their very last soldier to hold that line if they had to.
Zelensky gave the order to liberate the south from occupation
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/10-jul...uth-of-ukraine
I don't know, maybe I'm crazy, but I'd run a total false flag operation in Kherson. Like, send some special ops in there just to cause pure chaos and panic, while actually hitting Donetsk instead—wherever they least expect it. If you grab Donetsk, the whole Russian playbook just falls apart. Then I could finally start packing my bags to head home. From what I can see, there's a ton of fighting in Kherson and probably around the Zaporizhzhia front too. Since their logistics are pretty trashed right now, maybe something big could actually happen.
So, looks like some serious homework just landed on the desk of the Ukrainian government. Victoria Spartz—that US Congresswoman with Ukrainian roots—is throwing some heavy accusations at the Office of the President of the United States, and man, she isn't pulling any punches. She’s basically demanding an investigation into four big things:
A whole "Watergate" style scandal;
The halting of domestic weapons development (specifically stuff like Patriot, Javelin, and HIMARS) and instead focusing on securing more 122mm and 152mm ammo supplies
The loss of Kherson, which I guess led to that whole tragedy involving the Azov Regiment
And stalling the setup of the anti-corruption office and the state prosecutor
http://spartz.house.gov/media/press-...s-yermak-issue.
Then you've got the Volunteer Corps calling all this nothing but Russian propaganda meant to mess with the relationship between the USA and Ukraine
https://ukrainian.voanews.com/a/spar...-/6652163.htmlAnyway, I guess the real question is... who’s actually telling the truth here? Who can we even trust?
gentlestag15 said:I don't know about you guys, but watching the way everyone reacts to these massive geopolitical shifts feels like watching a slow-motion train wreck where nobody wants to admit the tracks are broken. It’s always the same pattern. People get caught up in the immediate chaos, the headlines, the frantic shouting matches on social media, and they completely miss the underlying mechanics of how power actually moves. It’s pretty predictable at this point. You see a major player make a move, and half the world panics while the other half acts like it’s business as usual, even when the rules of the game are being rewritten right in front of them. It’s less about the specific events and more about the inevitable momentum. Once that gear starts turning, there isn't much anyone can do to stop it—they can only try to figure out which side of the debris they'll be standing on when it finally settles. Just another day in the grand theater of global maneuvering, I guess.
I was just scrolling through my feed when I saw this, and honestly, it’s one of those things that makes you stop and stare for a second. It’s wild how much stuff is out there that feels like it belongs in a different era, yet here we are, staring right at it. There’s a certain kind of energy in these discussions that you just don't get anywhere else—that raw, unfiltered way people jump into the deep end without checking the water temperature first. It’s messy, sure, but it's real. Sometimes you just have to sit back, grab a coffee, and watch the chaos unfold from a distance. It really puts things into perspective, doesn't it?
The protesters actually managed to score some transport vehicles and AKs from the soldiers while they were busy beating people into the pavement.
We’re just sitting here waiting on those Russian peacekeepers to show up. 😁
I mean, you really have to look at what's going down in Uzbekistan. It's not like they're part of any Eurasian alliance or whatever. These protests are happening in this specific area—the Republic of Karakalpakstan—where there are maybe 2 million people, and most of them are either Uzbek or Karakalpak, like 33% and 32% I guess, but that tiny spot covers like 40% of the whole country. But if you check Wikipedia Karakalpak, there are only about 750,000 Karakalpak people out of a total population of 32,000,000. So, look, countries like Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Moldova, and Ukraine aren't exactly itching to be swallowed back up by a reborn Russian Empire (like USSR 2.0 or something). To me, this just looks like they're trying to grow a new Sao-style tumor inside the country just so they can keep a tighter grip on everything.
CNN got banned. I guess.
I’m kinda wondering why I actually got banned here... like, what was the deal? I was just responding to four different points made by this user, rustydrifter10, who was basically out here trying to justify Russia's invasion of Ukraine. He was acting all surprised about why Ukrainians are fighting back, citing these four specific reasons... I guess I just called him out on it.
The poverty levels over in Ukraine... man, it’s just rough. I mean, really rough. It’s like, you look at the situation there and it's just constant struggle, I guess. Everything is just broken. Maybe it's the economy, maybe it's everything else, but people are really feeling it. It's a mess.
So, I guess there's this whole thing about two Ukrainians working over in Russia... just kind of a weird situation, honestly. I don't know. It's one of those things that makes you stop and think for a second, maybe? Just feels strange.
So, I was thinking... maybe? I don't know. There are like, three different ways you could look at how Russia is hitting Ukraine compared to when the US went all in on Afghanistan or dealt with those fires in Libya. It’s kind of a mess, honestly. First off, you've got the whole scale thing. The way Russia is acting toward Ukraine feels different from that whole Afghanistan situation. In Afghanistan, it was more about trying to stabilize things and then just... getting stuck, I guess? But this feels much more direct, like a massive, heavy-handed push rather than just a long-term occupation attempt. Or maybe I'm wrong. Then there's the Libya comparison. When the US stepped into Libya, it was more about intervention—trying to stop a specific guy or regime. With Russia and Ukraine, it feels less like an "intervention" and more like a full-blown territorial grab. It's a different kind of chaos, if that makes sense. One was about changing a government, the other feels like they're trying to redraw the map entirely. And thirdly... I don't know, maybe it's the endgame? With Afghanistan, the goal was basically to leave eventually, even if it took forever. With what's happening in Ukraine, it doesn't really feel like anyone is looking for the exit sign anytime soon. It's just... constant. A lot of people are comparing them, but they all feel like different flavors of disaster to me. Just my two cents, anyway.
Those Nazi groups... man, what even is that? I don't know. It's just crazy.
So, I got banned just because I wouldn't back down from what that Rijeka resident was saying, even though he's still here. It’s honestly ridiculous. The only real difference is that I actually laid out arguments showing how this whole thing is clearly a criminal act of one nation invading another—which pretty much the entire world agrees on—whereas the guy is just sitting there trying to find excuses and make sense of an unprovoked aggression. And then the moderator, who's supposed to be all "impartial" or whatever, goes ahead and bans me while leaving him totally untouched for straight-up trolling. I guess that's just how it works now. Maybe.
I'm pretty sure the mod here is totally backing Putin's whole vibe in Ukraine. I mean, he straight up admitted that part of Ukraine where those Russian troops rolled through northwest of Kyiv towards the Chernobyl zone... yeah, he basically said it himself.
A guy from a local US city says:
Honestly, what’s happening right now is pretty terrifying. This kind of crackdown on free thought is... I don't even know how to put it. It feels like the level of media freedom you'd see in North Korea. I mean, I guess I spent way more time down in the South than up North, so I haven't actually been there, so maybe I'm just talking out of my ass here...
So I put this super vague post out there, right? And man, it immediately triggered like three or four angry link comments. People were all like, "Oh, you definitely think they're defending themselves..." or even, "Man, you're lucky we aren't in Russia, they'd throw you in jail for saying that." It’s just... I don't know, it's the mentality. It feels like it's either one way or the other—you're either on our side or you're some kind of pro-Russian sympathizer. There's just no middle ground anymore, I guess.
So, you want my take? Fine. I think Russia invaded Ukraine. Honestly, there’s like, zero debate there, right? It's pretty obvious. In my opinion, Russia is the aggressor here, and I mean, Putin seriously screwed up big time by launching this attack. People are dying... just everywhere. It's honestly awful.
I mean, I'm honestly just as curious as everyone else about why Putin actually pulled the trigger on this invasion, and what his next move is gonna be. I don't really care about the usual garbage they feed us in the news cycle. Honestly, most of what you see on TV feels like a total circus of people just trying to suck up to Putin—it’s basically like watching old-school propaganda from the Milosevic era. Look, I don't buy the whole narrative that Putin is just some Botoxed-out lunatic with paranoid schizophrenia hiding in a nuclear bunker being fed nothing but lies by his staff. And I'm definitely not sitting here thinking Russia is just going to hand over war reparations to Ukraine, or that they'll let us seize Russian property to fund reconstruction. And don't even get me started on those fairy tales about "forcing Russia to give up its nukes." I'm not even gonna waste my breath on that nonsense.
So, here we go again with the latest fairy tale—apparently, production is shutting down in China and everything is moving over to Ukraine. Like, WTF? I don’t know, man. If it weren't for Moldova, Ukraine would probably be the poorest country in all of Europe, and honestly, they only have themselves to blame for that. This war has already absolutely wrecked them, and at this rate, they’re gonna snatch that title from Moldova, and it feels like there's no end in sight. I mean, half of the people who fled as refugees are probably never coming back, and we're talking about millions of people here... it's just crazy.
So, look, in all these Western democracies that love to brag about freedom of speech and all that jazz... what we're seeing right now is just totally unprecedented. Seriously. Like, Valery Gergiev, the guy running the Munich Philharmonic, actually lost his job just because he wouldn't go out and publicly slam Putin? I mean, come on. What does a guy who spends his life dealing with classical music have to do with the war in Ukraine? It doesn't make any sense, I guess. But apparently, if you aren't officially calling him out, then you're just Putin's buddy, and if you don't denounce him loudly enough, you're out? And everyone’s just acting like this is totally normal? It's wild.
Take this other guy, Timoshchuk. He’s working as an assistant coach for Spartak Moscow, right? And he just stays quiet about the war. Like, hasn't said a single word. He just does his job, keeps his head down, doesn't seem to care... and then everyone loses their minds. They absolutely crucified him. One by one, people were coming for him, saying this and that... they even kicked him out of the national team and the Ukrainian federation pulled his coaching license—though honestly, nobody really knows what the legal basis for that even is. Right now, he’s over in Russia making enough money to support three million Ukrainians. I mean, that's what people need to put food on the table, isn't it? That's what everyone should be doing. So what, should he just quit immediately? Just because he’s earning money from the occupiers? Or is it only supposed to be the big-name celebrities who have to follow those rules? I guess I could understand if Timoshchuk was some kind of war criminal or like, a Russian militia thug, then sure, you can call him trash. But the guy just stays silent...
Example three:
Legally speaking, there isn't even a shred of difference between Russia invading Ukraine and how the US invaded Afghanistan, or that whole "Arab Spring" mess in Libya where they literally just executed Gaddafi and turned that entire part of the world into some medieval wasteland. I mean, I don't recall seeing any massive hysteria over the tens of thousands of civilians killed in Afghanistan, right? I don't remember people typing out essays about how dead American soldiers are fertilizing the Afghan highlands, either. And nobody was calling them trolls or orcs back then. But man, just look at what’s being said on this thread... and this is supposed to be the "normal" crowd. It feels like a total mob mentality is being manufactured here, where any kind of actual criticism gets shut down instantly, and everyone just acts like it's totally fine.
Take the fourth example:
The Nazis! Seriously, you’ve got this group of Nazis that barely even tries to hide it—look at the symbols, the ideology, the pamphlets. It’s honestly kind of a joke, especially since their founder was out there openly celebrating war criminals, and yet everyone thinks it’s totally fine. People just play dumb, I guess. They either pretend they don't see it, or they pull that "Oh, how can they be Nazis when Zelenskyy is Jewish?" line. But the Azov guys didn't just pop up yesterday; they've been operating on that exact same playbook for eight years now, and nobody seems to care!
I could go on like this forever, but man, this is getting ridiculous...
Hopefully, that answers your question.”
So, here is what I told him:
Man, you have swallowed so much garbage, you Rijeka resident.
Your first point—poverty: the whole thing became an issue for Putin because Ukraine turned toward the EU. They started building things up, cities began looking more European, and Ukrainians didn't need visas anymore. They moved to places like Poland to work, earn actual money, and build houses that these people from rural Russia—who haven't seen any real civilization—started looting. Putin really started sweating because those folks from the Ukrainian countryside finally started moving up in the world and living better than the filthy Russian villages that don't even have electricity or paved roads.
Example 2—working in Russia: that was only an issue until they found better ways to make bank in the EU. A lot of Ukrainians had to leave Russia because they were being forced to sign stuff supporting a Nazi Ukraine. Those who stayed behind today won't even talk to their relatives, or you have pilots bombing the very cities where their own mothers live, or generals bombing their own citizens. How are you supposed to feel about someone working for a state that's attacking your people?
Example 3—the US has never started a war just to occupy a country and annex it, but those aren't the same things and it doesn't prove your point. The fact is, Russia occupied Crimea through deception, invaded another independent nation, and is trying to carve out as much territory as possible to steal it, even though they promised to protect Ukraine's independence in the Budapest Memorandum.
Example 4—Azov: This whole "Nazi legend" thing... if you look at confirmed crimes by them (you can find similar stuff with how the Wagner group treats prisoners), it’s nothing compared to the National Socialist views coming from Putin, who denies an entire nation of 50 million people even exists and is busy destroying their country stone by stone. And just because some individuals occasionally act out—like some random singer performing controversial songs or a politician singing extremist anthems while taking checks from displaced people—doesn't mean the whole thing is true. The moderator worked so hard to delete the post that I can't even finish reading it.
HasoMujo also chimed in on that point, asking what part of it isn't true:
“Umm... blatant pro-Russian propaganda...
Do I really need to explain this?
And seriously, does anyone actually believe that when one side starts the biggest war in Europe in sixty years, the other side—the "West"—should just let the Russians and all their supporters spread their propaganda unchecked in the name of "free speech"?
And yeah... the Russian invasion of Ukraine is criminal and has NO comparison to anything since WWI. Before the war, Putin denied Ukraine's sovereignty, its people, and its language. Combine that with an aggressive war for territorial conquest, and you've got pure Hitler-style politics. There is absolutely no comparison to anything the West has ever done...”