William Bennett53 said:Listen, folks, let’s not descend into nonsense right now.
The Visegrad Group isn't an election topic, and as for any pre-election debates—even those concerning the US and the Visegrad Group—please take them to the election sub-forum. It’s not as if there isn't enough room; you can post there as much as you like. Let's keep this specific thread for the usual daily political mudslinging and election season drama.
Secondly, and finally, what is with all this moving around? For heaven's sake, slybison8 is a respected veteran here and a long-time moderator of Politics; I don't recall anyone ever questioning his authority, at least not since my time as a supermod.
Picture this: a thread dedicated to "medical marijuana use." Now, imagine people debating it for eighteen months straight. They’re dissecting how different political parties handle it—because let's face it, those parties are the ones actually pulling the levers on legislation—and they're arguing about how to regulate sales through the legal system. Fast forward to election season, and suddenly the moderators drop a hammer. They pass a rule saying you can't talk about party platforms anymore because it's too "partisan," forcing everyone to stick strictly to scientific data or literary analysis. That’s pretty much exactly what your ban on the Visegrad thread feels like.
Look, Dorian, I’ve always respected you as an intelligent guy who isn't blinded by ideology—unlike some of our other colleagues here—even if we don't exactly see eye to eye. Just stop for a second and actually think about this ban they've slapped on you.
Of course you can't have a real debate here. From where your buddies are sitting, discussing party stances regarding the Visegrad Group is off-limits. Too many important eyes are watching this thread; if any party's position becomes "official" through these discussions, their ideological standing is toast. That’s why we don't talk about party lines. Instead, we talk about values—values that actually matter to the right-wing population. We're talking about sovereignty (something the V4 nations are demonstrating clearly right now), securing borders, and defending our own principles. These aren't some "universal European" values—because those don't exist—they are the core values held by individual sovereign nations.
When you strip everything else away, America's foreign policy can only head in three directions. First, there’s the dream of being a powerhouse—a fully sovereign, independent nation that doesn't play favorites or get tangled in excessive alliances. It’s the ultimate goal for any true nationalist, but let's be honest: it's an impossible mission. Second, we could just act as the little shuttle for the Western North America, serving as their primary gateway into the European Union. That’s the path favored by the American left and all the progressive factions. Then there’s the third option: becoming a core player in the Adriatic-Baltic axis—essentially joining the Visegrad Group. In this scenario, America would leverage its strategic position to drive massive projects. We’re talking about turning the U.S. into the premier logistics hub for energy and goods for all of Europe by utilizing the Krk-Gdansk pipeline and transforming the Port of Rijeka into the continent's main import terminal. Furthermore, by integrating into the Visegrad Group, our representatives in the European Parliament would hold veto power—since they command over 15% of the vote—granting America real teeth and significant influence within EU institutions.
Right now, the President of the United States is the only one pushing this vision. What’s really eating at the left is the realization that the Republican Party might actually start backing her.
If that actually happens, the Republican Party is going to steamroll the elections.Look, the whole Visegrad Group issue—especially with everything going down regarding migrants lately—is a massive, top-tier campaign issue here in America. It touches everything: how we handle migration, our entire foreign policy direction, and ultimately, the core values Americans want to live by. Of course, your colleagues hate it. The idea that a coherent right-wing movement could actually emerge—one that blends all the elements of the modern conservative movements across Europe—absolutely terrifies them. This topic isn't just a debate; it’s an existential threat to the entire leftist ideology in Europe. It threatens the multiculturalist agenda, the push for federalization within the European Union, and even the socio-economic models currently being tested across the Visegrad Group nations. Even the leftists within the Visegrad Group aren't pushing their old-school ideology anymore. Take Fico—he's a leftist, yet look at where he stands.
That’s exactly why they’re pushing to lock this thread down and put up guardrails. Look, folks, if right-wing ideas are such a threat, why are there fences and barbed wire on the borders of the Visegrad Group topic? Just let them through. Don't meet them with rubber bullets or water cannons; at least act like you value liberty. You claim to be progressive, you claim to be forward-thinking—I'm sure a little debate won't leave a scratch on you. 😉
And let’s wrap this up: hiding the fact that Vesna Pusić and Ivo Josipović were invited to join the Visegrad Group and turned it down, then scrubbing any posts that mention it, isn't about "moderation." It’s pure, brutal censorship. And let's stop kidding ourselves—if it weren't for a direct order, Sam Green73 wouldn't even be here. He was sent here with a mission: to police a specific point so that no one wanders into this discussion and drops five facts that could swing an entire election. We laid out a winning platform ages ago—five core projects that deliver everything: money, national clout, sovereignty, distance from the Western North America, a stronger stance for Americans in Canada, and integration into that Central European cultural sphere that tourists flock to see in our cities. Any party actually implementing this would sweep the competition.
That is the sole purpose behind trying to kill this thread.
To prevent it from becoming a campaign issue. I find the decision to ban discussion of this topic within daily political frameworks to be incredibly malicious,
because it is a daily political issue. I find the decision to ban discussion of this topic regarding elections to be incredibly malicious,
because it is a legitimate election issue. This ban needs to be lifted. It doesn't promote pluralism on a forum that clearly influences real-world spheres and actual politics; instead, it relies on brute force censorship to protect a losing ideological position held by the current moderator clique.
I'll say it again: do you want a forum that serves as an ideological echo chamber, or do you want a forum that acts as a genuine architect of public and political opinion in America? If you want a cave, stick with these crusty thugs. If you want to be creators, just read the Visegrad Group thread and act accordingly. The roadmap is right there; the choice is yours. It’s time for moderators who follow Central European cultural and value standards, because the ones we have now are like last year's snow—they'll melt away along with that dead Western North America project we buried in this thread. 👋
