Sanctions on Russia
in War in Ukraine ·
analogbear5 said:Occam's razor, my friend. It's way simpler than those biblical tales you're spinning.
Clearly. 😉
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analogbear5 said:Occam's razor, my friend. It's way simpler than those biblical tales you're spinning.
swiftjackal11 said:Back in July 2008, we saw crude hit a record high of $147 a barrel. Even then, gas was sitting at $9.75 and diesel was $3.25. Basically, oil was about 40 percent more expensive back then, yet fuel prices were actually 20 to 30 percent lower than they are now. What's the catch? Why is everything so pricey today?
And back then, there wasn't any conflict with Russia or Ukraine.
Bryan Booth82 said:Once oil prices finally drop and the recession starts to fade, I expect you'll be coming back here to write those posts where you tell us all, "as I always told you..." or "just as I predicted..."🤣
If we are already effectively in a proxy war with Russia, then it stands to reason that the most effective strike would be hitting them exactly where it hurts most—their primary source of income.
Best regards,
hollowdriver13 said:But what shortage are we even talking about?
The pro-Russian crowd keeps harping on about how India and China are going to vacuum up all that Russian oil.
But if we use basic logic—those two countries only have so much capacity to consume or store stuff, and most of their oil currently comes from the Middle East. That means they’ll naturally end up buying less from the Arab states. Those producers aren't exactly going to turn off the taps just to do Russia a favor; instead, they’ll pivot that supply toward wherever the demand is highest—which is Western markets—and the whole loop closes itself.
At the end of the day, this current price spike isn't really about a physical shortage; it's driven by speculators who are pumping up prices by grabbing production quotas early, fueled by that "hey, there might be supply issues later, better safe than sorry" mindset.
wearytrucker22 said:And I say, forget you, I'm just getting in my Tesla. That leaves Russia to fight the Middle Eastern players over the derivatives market. Besides, those Russian oligarchs have already moved all their profits over to the West anyway.
Arthur Miller7 said:Sanctions aren't gonna fix anything in a week, and this war isn't ending in a week either. We'll see what happens when oil prices tank and everything else drops, or once the EU finds a real alternative to gas. That's when we'll actually see how much capacity Russia has left for any kind of fighting—not just this mess, but whatever comes down the pike in the next few years. Just enough time for their other neighbors to bail on them too. The EU will eventually bounce back from the crisis, but Russia? Stuck under sanctions, weighed down by this special operation, and losing their big EU customer who used to buy cheap gas and oil... man, they're in for it.
Bryan Booth82 said:Sure, but if we gamble on "producing less to drive up prices" and end up triggering the recession everyone is starting to whisper about... well, who knows? Suddenly, that "tomorrow" price could plummet to $45.
As they say over in Germany, economics isn't a one-way street.🤔
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George Robinson43 said:Some sanctions on Iran were actually rolled back in early 2016. As soon as that was announced, oil prices plummeted to $28. So, really, where is the issue?
Donald Trump brought those back and took out Qasem Soleimani. He also tightened the screws on Venezuela with even harsher sanctions.
But now, Donald Trump is gone.
George Robinson43 said:Once Venezuela and Iran return to the global market, prices will drop significantly lower than $80!
Bryan Booth82 said:If we actually managed to crash global oil and gas prices, it would deal a far more devastating blow to Russia than any shipment of weapons they've ever sent abroad.
It seems like the West has finally caught on to this reality, which explains why Putler has pivoted toward these massive gas cuts—it’s a desperate attempt to artificially prop up prices before the floor falls out from under them.
Best regards,
William Anderson5 said:Why is that any surprise? Even an Orthodox believer like Putin and his Pope Kiril count non-believing Muslims and communists as their closest allies...
Bryan Booth82 said:This nation emerged as the ultimate lifeline to replace Russian oil. Massive tankers are flooding into Europe now that Americans have lifted export bans and sanctions.
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hollowdriver13 said:And all those people who love Russia were claiming Maduro wouldn't throw Putin under the bus, and that he definitely wouldn't turn his back on the West or those dirty petrodollars just to be difficult... until suddenly, "it's nothing personal, just good business." 🕺
It’s the exact same deal with Iran—lots of big talk, but they'd probably jump at the chance to trade if it meant getting off the sanctions list. Honestly, only a fool wouldn't try to cash in on their natural resources while they still can. The golden age of hydrocarbons is winding down, and you don't want to be sitting on massive reserves that end up being totally useless.
William Anderson5 said:Well, that first video is actually pretty spectacular...🤣
The drone was practically limping through the sky, barely holding its own before it finally went down... and then it took out their refinery.
Melissa Rivera5 said:Honestly, if Russia had just been pushed back to the east side of the Urals back then, I guess we all would've ended up in a much better spot long-term. Maybe.
dustytiger8 said:Well... no... that's just not how it works.
A thick slab of concrete is basically just a target for a bunker buster. Just Google "bunker buster bomb" if you don't believe me. A single BLU-109 is plenty to take out a bridge; it can punch through two feet of reinforced concrete without breaking a sweat.
William Anderson5 said:Those are just students. We're talking about professionals in the high-tech sector who actually have the capacity to bring specialized expertise back to China. You don't pick up that kind of practical knowledge in a university lecture hall; you get it working at major private corporations...
William Anderson5 said:What kind of Chinese person working at a high-tech Western firm would actually consider moving back to China? Are you even grasping the sheer amount of money we're talking about here?...
rustywalker82 said:I'm with you there—everyone's going to end up getting chewed up and spat out in Ukraine. Between the Britons and Americans, they've already been talked into that deal where they essentially gift their nuclear arsenal to Moscow.
And let's be real, that whole "you'll join the EU" line is way too little, too late. They should've been brought into the fold whenever the Baltic states were.
goldenowl73 said:That is exactly it! If we let this kind of violent takeover become the new normal where one country just denies another exists, we're basically signing a permission slip for a dozen different hotspots to pop up all over the globe using the exact same playbook. We'd be looking at total chaos.
Nancy Gomez26 said:There is very little margin in wheat or corn. You need massive acreage and high yield just to survive. Only a tiny fraction of farmers actually manage that scale. On the flip side, expecting to make a living off such crops with only a few acres is naive. For them, any subsidy amount is merely survival money—social welfare, really—not capital for expansion. For small-scale producers, almost any buyback price is a losing game because their fixed overhead is already too high to cover. Those with limited land should have pivoted to different types of production, but that requires specialized knowledge, marketing expertise, and a host of other skills. If they possessed those capabilities, they would already be among the large-scale operators. Opportunities existed, but that window is closing or has already slammed shut. At this stage, you simply work with the resources you have left.
Jack Hill2 said:In all realism, Russia might have maybe 18 months left to mess with Germany, and even then, it’s mostly just regarding gas (they can't really touch oil anymore).
After that, Germany will be the one causing them trouble, and we won't be talking in months, but decades...