Posts by graniteharbor502

gentlemoose57 said:Let’s not get carried away with speculation right now. We should simply focus on the data we actually have in front of us.

Valtteri Bottas faced no penalties and had zero issues with his race car while maintaining pace ahead of George Russell, who was chasing him down. His pit stop for tires was clocked at a swift 2.2 seconds, which stands in stark contrast to the 4.0 seconds Lewis Hamilton endured. He qualified in 8th, and his retirement occurred very close to that qualifying position.

Sergio Perez secured 2nd in qualifying, but given that he dealt with both a penalty and a spin, his eventual 11th place finish—or whatever position he holds in the race—doesn't really offer much insight into how fast that car truly is.

One cannot overlook the significance of Bottas's qualifying time and his performance through the 30th lap, or indeed any specific lap during that stretch.

If that machine were truly a beast on the track, wouldn't it have found its way toward the front, even starting from 8th?

So, the hierarchy seems to be Red Bull Racing, followed by a significant gap, then Mercedes, then perhaps a brief pause before we encounter the rest of the field.

Furthermore, the fact that Lewis Hamilton managed to set the fastest lap during a stint where he had DRS active along the entire main straight, and managed to overtake Lando Norris without having to extend the battle through Tabmurelo, doesn't actually tell us much about the underlying speed of the car.

gentlemoose57 said:Sergio Perez was dealt a penalty, and on top of that, he actually spun out of the race.

I wonder, did Valtteri Bottas run into any issues at all?

ruggedhawk20 said:Max Verstappen is driving the dominant car

Lewis Hamilton is stuck in a car that’s essentially fighting a Williams for P9

ruggedhawk20 said:Why do you insist on leaning on Lewis's comment about fun overtakes to support your points? That specific remark doesn't serve as evidence at all; if anything, the statement completely contradicts everything you are trying to argue.

It stands to reason that those overtakes were enjoyable for him, simply because they required genuine effort. If he remarked that they were fun, does that necessarily imply they were easy? Quite the opposite, actually—they were fun precisely because they were challenging, because they demanded his absolute best. They weren't just hollow, tedious moments of passing opponents, which would hold no joy whatsoever.

It is truly a rather pathetic mindset to equate ease with enjoyment, don't you think?

vividlynx68 said:Your data is flawed—so naturally, your math is too.



vividlynx68 33
1. Hamilton 5
2. Verstappen 5
3. Bottas 0

4. Leclerc 3+1
5. Perez 0
6. Gasly 3
7. Ricciardo 3
8. Tsunoda 0
9. Norris 0
10. Alonso 3

11. Stroll 0
12. Ocon 0
13. Raikkonen 2
14. Russell 0
15. Latifi 0
16. Schumacher 2+2

DNF: Sainz, Vettel, Mazepin, Giovinazzi 0

Pole: Hamilton 4
Fastest Lap: Verstappen 0

Drew Bennett68 said:

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wiredfalcon2 said:Or, to put it in the words graniteharbor502 might use—this race was destined to "separate the boys from the men." Though, in the case of Hamilton, I suppose that rule doesn't quite apply, does it?

wiredfalcon2 said:It is quite fascinating when you consider that out of those three races, he managed to secure points in all of them—even clinching a victory in one and taking second place in another. Is it not truly dramatic how easily his mistakes seem to be overlooked?

ruggedhawk20 said:Max is quite fortunate that both Christian Horner and Helmut Marko favor him so heavily, ensuring the entire team's operations revolve around his needs; furthermore, he benefits from having Adrian Newey designing his car while enjoying the power of what is arguably the strongest engine on the grid from Honda.

vividlynx68 said:That isn't quite what I am getting at. My point is simply that he slammed into the barrier, snapped a wing, kept his composure, threw it into reverse, rejoined the track, and just carried on with the race. Can anyone else recall similar displays of grit?

vividlynx68 said:Luck? 😁 Look, you all know I’m not exactly sitting in his corner, but when was the last time someone pulled off an overtake like that after such a massive excursion? I am not even talking about him fighting his way back up to second place afterward. When was the last time anyone actually managed to drive forward at all following a crash of that magnitude?

Douglas Roberts49 said:And what about when he spun out just before the SC came out? He really caught a lucky break there, because otherwise, he would have been trailing far behind the pack.

Larry Rivera83 said:Max won simply because he was lucky enough that nobody else caught a break... honestly, isn't this entire sport fundamentally built upon nothing but pure luck?

Larry Rivera83 said:Hamilton—the supposed golden boy of fortune... truly the greatest myth ever perpetuated on this forum. If he actually possessed such divine favor, wouldn't we be discussing a man who had secured at least nine championships by now? I am merely offering a thought for consideration. ☕

ruggedhawk20 said:Charlie Whiting is gone now. You all spent so much time hating on him while he was still here.

I suppose you’ll just have to learn how to navigate this world without Charlie Whiting now, won't you?