Posts by graniteharbor502

Now, if you'll permit me a brief diversion, one should consider the fact that these teams receive supplemental funding from FOM regarding that well-known Super Bowl bonus, and the figures break down as follows:
Mercedes-Benz 56.5 million dollars
Ferrari 80 million dollars
Red Bull 56.6 million dollars
McLaren 25 million dollars
Williams 7.5 million dollars

In his book Total Competition, Brawn GP suggests that during his era, an investment of roughly $100,000 in development was required just to shave a single tenth of a second off a lap time. Of course, we must realize that it isn't quite true that a million-dollar infusion would automatically yield a full second of improvement, though perhaps the gap isn't nearly as wide as one might assume? If one considers only these specific bonuses, it stands to reason that certain teams could potentially outpace Force India by as much as twenty seconds per lap through sheer developmental spending alone. 😬

Have we truly allowed this entire discussion to devolve once again into nothing more than a debate regarding various brands of beer? 🙂
Let us please attempt to remain focused on the actual topic at hand.

Dieter Rencken has put together a detailed breakdown regarding the budgets available to the teams during the 2016 season. His analysis, which draws upon official financial statements, various insider insights, and certain logical assumptions, yields the following results (not including any funds allocated to PJ):
Mercedes 265 million pounds (profit: 0)
Ferrari 225 million pounds (profit: 0)
Red Bull 220 million pounds (profit: 5 million)
McLaren 185 million pounds (profit: 0)
Renault 150 million pounds (profit: 0)
Williams 105 million pounds (profit: 5 million)
Toro Rosso 100 million pounds (profit: 0)
Haas 100 million pounds (profit: 0)
Sauber 95 million pounds (profit: 0)
Force India 90 million pounds (profit: 0)
Manor 85 million pounds (profit: 0)

Is it not truly curious how you two always find yourselves engaging in such spirited discourse on this platform? ☕Perhaps there is some deeper significance to your constant back-and-forth that we are all simply failing to grasp?

William Bennett53 said:Now that everything has finally wrapped up, perhaps those of us who move at a slightly more leisurely pace could benefit from an explanation regarding the distinction between Ke and Ki?

Right here lies the explanation 😁

The final standings for graniteharbor502's 2016 tournament fantasy

272 1. WayOut 691 Route 201 Route 201 Route 201 Route 201 Route 201 Route 201
224 2. Vetma 739 Route 201 Route 201
201 3. graniteharbor502 711 Route 201 Route 201 Route 201 Route 201 Route 185
185 4. gaff_ 708 Route 201 Route 201 Route 185
185 5. Templar Order 701 Route 201 Route 185 Route 185
168 6. Clark 652
164 7. The Best F1 Driver 652 Route 201 Route 185 Route 185
131 8. akoj 579 Route 201 Route 201 Route 185
114 9. Dorian.Gray 538 Route 185 Route 185
89 10. Ssung 460 Route 201 Route 185
79 11. icemanST 313 Route 185 Route 185
70 12. frontier 326 Route 185 Route 185 Route 185 Route 185
54 13. ivic27 533 Route 185
43 14. some new guy 226 Route 201 Route 185
42 15. FilipR5 233
17 16. rosi 212 Route 185
5 17. Mirko_M 200 trophy winner Zlatko Kek 200

The winner of the Golden Kek trophy is WayOut

The winner of the Umbrella trophy is frontier

graniteharbor502's fantasy

Round 11
25 1. redjackal 46 Ke
18 2. Terry Carter2 45
15 3. swifttiger75 43
12 4. Kyle Edwards5 41
10 5. Vettel-Massa 39
8 6. Jim Clark 39
6 7. akoj 39
4 8. William Bennett53 38
2 9. ivic27 35
1 10. graniteharbor502 35 Ki

Average secondary points in round eleven: 40
Average drivers correctly picked in Q3: 8.8
Average correct positions: 4

Overall standings after Round 11:
146 1. Terry Carter2 341 Ke Ke Ke
135 2. Kyle Edwards5 397 Ke Ke
129 3. swifttiger75 390 Ke
122 4. graniteharbor502 386 Ke Ke Ki Ki
105 5. stormybadger8 336 Ke Ki
104 6. Vettel-Massa 387
102 7. William Bennett53 351 Ki
83 8. akoj 359 Ke Ki
82 9. Jim Clark 311
68 10. redjackal 240 Ke Ki
32 11. ivic27 292 Ki
2 12. krajina 7 Ki Ki Ki Ki

Correct Positions Trophy:
1. Kyle Edwards5 31
2. swifttiger75 30
Vettel-Massa 30
4. William Bennett53 28
Terry Carter2 28
6. graniteharbor502 27
7. Jim Clark 25
8. akoj 24
9. redjackal 20
stormybadger8 20
11. ivic27 16
12. krajina 0

stormybadger8 said:http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/re...-2017-855835/?

Hey man, looks like the honeymoon phase between Red Bull Racing and General Motors is already hitting the rocks. 😲
It’s coming sooner than we thought. 🤣

But honestly, this could turn into a complete disaster for Red Bull Racing...
They’re going to run into massive fuel issues until ExxonMobil steps in and Red Bull Racing sorts out their engine mapping to match the new fuel. Plus, you have to wonder what happens with General Motors... I doubt they'll be thrilled about getting dumped by ExxonMobil.

And then there's McLaren. What happens to them after this? They're looking at a nightmare regarding fuel consistency too...

The only way out of this mess that makes any sense—even if it sounds totally insane at first—is this switch:
Red Bull Racing jumps to Honda at the start of next season, bringing ExxonMobil along for the ride.
Then McLaren ditches Honda and moves over to General Motors along with ExxonMobil.

I know, sounds bizarre. But from both teams' perspectives, it’s actually the most logical move given Red Bull Racing's shift to ExxonMobil.

The second possibility would be:
Red Bull Racing switches to Honda right at the start of next season, bundled with ExxonMobil.
And McLaren stays with Honda and ExxonMobil, they just lose all that sponsorship cash from ExxonMobil.

If you look back at this same thread under post 23, you will find the primary reasons behind these shifts to different suppliers.

By the way, tire testing for the 2017 season has officially commenced. If you would like to get a little preview of how they might actually look once mounted on the cars, I thought I would share this shot from Abu Dhabi:

Final standings:


swifttiger75 43
1. Lewis Hamilton 1 5
2. Nico Rosberg 1 5
3. Max Verstappen 1 1
4. Daniel Ricciardo 1 3
5. Sebastian Vettel 1 5
6. Kimi Raikkonen 1 2
7. Nico Hulkenberg 1 5
8. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
9. Sergio Perez 1 3
10. Felipe Massa 1 5

ivic27 35
Lewis Hamilton 1 5
Nico Rosberg 1 5
Sebastian Vettel 1 2
Daniel Ricciardo 1 3
Kimi Raikkonen 1 3
Max Verstappen 1 5
Sergio Perez 1 3
Valtteri Bottas 0 0
grosjean 0 0
Nico Hulkenberg 1 1

redjackal 46
1. Lewis Hamilton 1 5
2. Nico Rosberg 1 5
3. Daniel Ricciardo 1 5
4. Max Verstappen 1 2
5. Sebastian Vettel 1 5
6. Kimi Raikkonen 1 2
7. Nico Hulkenberg 1 5
8. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
9. Sergio Perez 1 3
10. Felipe Massa 1 5

graniteharbor502 35
1. Nico Rosberg 1 3
2. Lewis Hamilton 1 3
3. Sebastian Vettel 1 2
4. Max Verstappen 1 2
5. Kimi Raikkonen 1 3
6. Daniel Ricciardo 1 1
7. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
8. Sergio Perez 1 5
9. Nico Hulkenberg 1 2
10. Felipe Massa 1 5

Kyle Edwards5 41
1. Lewis Hamilton 1 5
2. Nico Rosberg 1 5
3. Daniel Ricciardo 1 5
4. Sebastian Vettel 1 3
5. Max Verstappen 1 3
6. Kimi Raikkonen 1 2
7. Sergio Perez 1 3
8. Nico Hulkenberg 1 3
9. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
10. Fernando Alonso 1 3

Terry Carter2 45
1. Lewis Hamilton 1 5
2. Nico Rosberg 1 5
3. Max Verstappen 1 1
4. Daniel Ricciardo 1 3
5. Sebastian Vettel 1 5
6. Kimi Raikkonen 1 2
7. Nico Hulkenberg 1 5
8. Sergio Perez 1 5
9. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
10. Felipe Massa 1 5

Vettel-Massa 39
Lewis Hamilton 1 5
Nico Rosberg 1 5
Max Verstappen 1 1
Daniel Ricciardo 1 3
Sebastian Vettel 1 5
Kimi Raikkonen 1 2
Nico Hulkenberg 1 5
Sergio Perez 1 5
Valtteri Bottas 0 0
Carlos Sainz 0 0

akoj 39
1. Lewis Hamilton 1 5
2. Nico Rosberg 1 5
3. Sebastian Vettel 1 2
4. Kimi Raikkonen 1 5
5. Daniel Ricciardo 1 2
6. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
7. Max Verstappen 1 3
8. Nico Hulkenberg 1 3
9. Felipe Massa 1 3
10. Sergio Perez 1 2

Jim Clark 39
1. Lewis Hamilton 1 5
2. Nico Rosberg 1 5
3. Sebastian Vettel 1 2
4. Max Verstappen 1 2
5. Daniel Ricciardo 1 2
6. Kimi Raikkonen 1 2
7. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
8. Sergio Perez 1 5
9. Nico Hulkenberg 1 2
10. Felipe Massa 1 5

William Bennett53 38
1. Lewis Hamilton 1 5
2. Nico Rosberg 1 5
3. Max Verstappen 1 1
4. Sebastian Vettel 1 3
5. Kimi Raikkonen 1 3
6. Daniel Ricciardo 1 1
7. Sergio Perez 1 3
8. Nico Hulkenberg 1 3
9. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
10. Felipe Massa 1 5

Finals:
Terry Carter2 - Kyle Edwards5 45 - 41

Battle for third place:
The Best F1 driver - William Bennett53 0 - 38

Battle for fifth place:
Vettel-Massa - akoj 39 - 39
Note: more accurate positioning was the deciding factor.

Battle for seventh place:
graniteharbor502 - swifttiger75 35 - 43

The winners of each duel are highlighted in bold.

1. Rosberg
2. Hamilton
3. Vettel
4. Verstappen
5. Raikkonen
6. Ricciardo
7. Bottas
8. Perez
9. Hulkenberg
10. Massa

In the most recent issue, NASCAR discusses how major oil companies are shifting their gaze away from NASCAR and toward other sporting arenas, such as how ExxonMobil has just inked an eight-year deal regarding sponsorship with CONCACAF, aiming to bolster soccer across various tournaments within the organization.

ExxonMobil has historically supported General Motors and Red Bull (serving as the official partner for the teams utilizing General Motors's engines) at a rate of roughly 15 million dollars annually. However, with this sudden shift in strategic focus, the massive energy giant seems to be pivoting, signaling they may only provide technical support to these teams in NASCAR next season.

But what are the actual implications here? While NASCAR remains a premier venue for testing cutting-edge technology, it appears it is no longer viewed as the primary marketing powerhouse it once was. This sentiment is further echoed by Shell, which chose not to renew its marketing agreement with NASCAR, despite maintaining its technical partnership with Ferrari.

General Motors might still have some leverage to convince ExxonMobil to reconsider their sponsorship stance through fuel and oil recommendations or initial fill-ups during vehicle sales, whereas Red Bull simply doesn't have that kind of luxury.
Consequently, Christian Horner has reportedly begun searching for a new fuel and lubricant provider willing to foot the sponsorship bill, and rumors suggest he has caught the eye of McLaren's current supplier—ExxonMobil—which isn't quite the titan it used to be. There is also whispers that McLaren is scouting for a new partner, with BP / Castrol being mentioned, though the unreliability of Honda's power unit remains a significant hurdle. This is precisely why Mobil 1 is reportedly in talks with Red Bull (after all, those smoking Honda engines don't make for very convincing advertisements).

Should General Motors decide to switch fuel suppliers, it could prove to be a devastating blow, as it would necessitate comprehensive changes to engine mapping; similarly, Red Bull's transition to a new provider would significantly disrupt their development program. Given that work on the new power unit versions for next year is already in full swing, the costs associated with recalibrating the entire engine development program by switching providers might only be offset by the non-factory teams, specifically Red Bull and AlphaTauri.

graniteharbor502's musings

Round 10 25 b> 1. Terry Carter2 36 Ke b> 18 b> 2. stormybadger8 35 15 b> 3. Kyle Edwards5 35 12 b> 4. Roger Wright94 34 10 b> 5. coastaldrifter6 33 8 b> 6. William Bennett53 32 [B] 6 b> 7. granitestag15 32 [B] 4 b> 8. brighthound8 29 [B] 2 b> 9. swifttiger75 28 [B] 1 b> 10. graniteharbor502 27 Ki
Average secondary points in round ten: 32.5 Average drivers correctly identified in Q3: 7.8 Average correct positions: 2.2
Overall standings after Round 10: 128 b> 1. Terry Carter2 296 Ke Ke Ke b> [B] 123 b> 2. Kyle Edwards5 356 Ke Ke b> [B] 121 b> 3. graniteharbor502 351 Ke Ke Ki 114 b> 4. swifttiger75 347 Ke b> [B] 105 b> 5. stormybadger8 336 Ke Ki 98 b> 6. William Bennett53 313 Ki 94 b> 7. granitestag15 348 [B] 77 b> 8. coastaldrifter6 320 Ke Ki 74 b> 9. Roger Wright94 272 [B] 43 b> 10. redjackal 194 Ki 30 b> 11. brighthound8 257 Ki 2 b> 12. krajina 7 Ki Ki Ki Ki
Accuracy Trophy: 1. Kyle Edwards5 28 2. William Bennett53 25 graniteharbor502 25 swifttiger75 25 granitestag15 25 6. Terry Carter2 22 7. coastaldrifter6 21 Roger Wright94 21 9. stormybadger8 20 10. redjackal 14 11. brighthound8 13 12. krajina 0 div>[/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B]

Semi-final results:


Knights Templar 28
1. Lewis Hamilton 1 5
2. Nico Rosberg 1 5
3. Daniel Ricciardo 1 1
4. Sebastian Vettel 1 3
5. Kimi Raikkonen 1 2
6. Max Verstappen 1 2
7. Felipe Massa 0 0
8. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
9. Nico Hulkenberg 1 3
10. Carlos Sainz 0 0

brighthound8 29
1. Nico Rosberg 1 3
2. Lewis Hamilton 1 3
3. Sebastian Vettel 1 2
4. Kimi Raikkonen 1 3
5. Daniel Ricciardo 1 3
6. Max Verstappen 1 2
7. Nico Hulkenberg 1 3
8. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
9. Romain Grosjean 1 2
10. Felipe Massa 0 0

stormybadger8 35
1. Lewis Hamilton 1 5
2. Nico Rosberg 1 5
3. Max Verstappen 1 3
4. Daniel Ricciardo 1 2
5. Sebastian Vettel 1 5
6. Kimi Raikkonen 1 1
7. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
8. Felipe Massa 0 0
9. Nico Hulkenberg 1 3
10. Sergio Perez 1 3

coastaldrifter6 33
1. Lewis Hamilton 1 5
2. Nico Rosberg 1 5
3. Sebastian Vettel 1 2
4. Kimi Raikkonen 1 3
5. Daniel Ricciardo 1 3
6. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
7. Max Verstappen 1 1
8. Nico Hulkenberg 1 3
9. Felipe Massa 0 0
10. Sergio Perez 1 3

Terry Carter2 36
1. Lewis Hamilton 1 5
2. Nico Rosberg 1 5
3. Daniel Ricciardo 1 1
4. Max Verstappen 1 5
5. Sebastian Vettel 1 5
6. Kimi Raikkonen 1 1
7. Felipe Massa 0 0
8. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
9. Nico Hulkenberg 1 3
10. Sergio Perez 1 3

graniteharbor502 27
1. Nico Rosberg 1 3
2. Lewis Hamilton 1 3
3. Max Verstappen 1 3
4. Daniel Ricciardo 1 2
5. Sebastian Vettel 1 5
6. Kimi Raikkonen 1 1
7. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
8. Felipe Massa 0 0
9. Nico Hulkenberg 1 3
10. Jenson Button 0 0

William Bennett53 32
1. Lewis Hamilton 1 5
2. Nico Rosberg 1 5
3. Max Verstappen 1 3
4. Daniel Ricciardo 1 2
5. Felipe Massa 0 0
6. Sebastian Vettel 1 3
7. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
8. Kimi Raikkonen 1 0
9. Nico Hulkenberg 1 3
10. Sergio Perez 1 3

Roger Wright94 34
1. Lewis Hamilton 1 5
2. Nico Rosberg 1 5
3. Max Verstappen 1 3
4. Daniel Ricciardo 1 2
5. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
6. Sebastian Vettel 1 3
7. Felipe Massa 0 0
8. Kimi Raikkonen 1 0
9. Nico Hulkenberg 1 3
10. Fernando Alonso 1 5

Kyle Edwards5 35
1. Lewis Hamilton 1 5
2. Nico Rosberg 1 5
3. Max Verstappen 1 3
4. Sebastian Vettel 1 3
5. Daniel Ricciardo 1 3
6. Kimi Raikkonen 1 1
7. Valtteri Bottas 0 0
8. Felipe Massa 0 0
9. Sergio Perez 1 5
10. Nico Hulkenberg 1 2

granitestag15 32
Lewis Hamilton 1 5
Nico Rosberg 1 5
Daniel Ricciardo 1 1
Sebastian Vettel 1 3
Kimi Raikkonen 1 2
Max Verstappen 1 2
Nico Hulkenberg 1 3
Felipe Massa 0 0
Valtteri Bottas 0 0
Sergio Perez 1 3

Semi-final matchups:
Terry Carter2 - stormybadger8 36 - 35
Kyle Edwards5 - William Bennett53 35 - 32

Consolation bracket for 5th-8th place:
graniteharbor502 - granitestag15 27 - 32
coastaldrifter6 - Knights Templar 33 - 28

Winners of the duels are highlighted in bold and advance to the finals. Everyone else moves into the consolation rounds for 3rd through 8th place.

1. Nico Rosberg
2. Lewis Hamilton
3. Max Verstappen
4. Daniel Ricciardo
5. Sebastian Vettel
6. Kimi Raikkonen
7. Valtteri Bottas
8. Felipe Massa
9. Nico Hulkenberg
10. Jenson Button

graniteharbor502's musings

Round 9
25 1. Terry Carter2 39 Ke
18 2. William Bennett53 37
15 3. stormybadger8 37
12 4. Jim Clark 36
10 5. graniteharbor502 35
8 6. swifttiger75 35
6 7. Kyle Edwards5 33
4 8. coastaldrifter6 32
2 9. granitestag15 32
1 10. ivic27 30 Ki

Average secondary points in the ninth round: 34.6
Average drivers correctly identified in Q3: 8.9
Average correct positions: 3

Overall standings after Round 9:
120 1. graniteharbor502 324 Ke Ke
112 2. swifttiger75 319 Ke
108 3. Kyle Edwards5 321 Ke Ke
103 4. Terry Carter2 260 Ke Ke
90 5. William Bennett53 281 Ki
88 6. granitestag15 316
87 7. stormybadger8 301 Ke Ki
67 8. coastaldrifter6 287 Ke Ki
62 9. Jim Clark 238
43 10. Ssung 194 Ki
26 11. ivic27 228 Ki
2 12. krajina 7 Ki Ki Ki Ki

Correct Positions Trophy:
1. Kyle Edwards5 25
2. graniteharbor502 24
3. William Bennett53 23
swifttiger75 23
granitestag15 23
6. coastaldrifter6 19
7. Jim Clark 18
Terry Carter2 18
9. stormybadger8 17
10. Ssung 14
11. ivic27 13
12. krajina 0

I harbor a certain disdain for all of you, though my resentment is most keenly felt toward Terry Carter2 😠

perhaps I should simply retreat into the world of fantasy 🕺

The Semifinal matchups are set:
Terry Carter2 - stormybadger8
Kyle Edwards5 - William Bennett53

The placement bracket for 5th through 8th place:
graniteharbor502 - granitestag15
coastaldrifter6 - swifttiger75