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2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix: June 23–25 in Formula 1 ·
Roger Wright94 said:No, I believe you have taken quite the wrong turn in your reasoning.

He simply lacks the ambition required to compete at the highest levels of this sport, and isn't that precisely where the issue lies? He just doesn't possess the necessary level of dedication, largely because his mind seems to wander toward far more trivial pursuits from time to time. To him, driving feels less like a calling and more like a part-time job. It seems he requires all this extra time for his painting, for women, for his dogs, for cats, or perhaps just for himself... he enjoys spending money, certainly, but he also seems to enjoy the spectacle of being seen spending it.
It brings to mind someone like Darko Pančev.
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Lewis Hamilton Darko Pančev Formula 1
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2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix: June 23–25 in Formula 1 ·
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19 miles/h
I am merely offering my perspective, ☕
2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix: June 23–25 in Formula 1 ·
jadeseal7 said:By the way: Kimi is actually shouting at them to give his steering wheel back 🤣🤣

https://streamable.com/80zn3

Oh, Kimi, heavens above... 🙏

What an incredible driver he is, truly 🙏

I suppose our colleague H-K ought to smooth this one over
2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix: June 23–25 in Formula 1 ·
NASCAR 🤮
Valtteri Bottas 🤮
Lewis Hamilton 🤮
Sebastian Vettel 🤮

The drivers receive word Yellow Flag and they all just sit there, waiting to see when the leader is finally going to floor it and try to break away, but then Lewis Hamilton does exactly what he did. And honestly, Sebastian Vettel reacts in such an unprofessional manner; wouldn't you agree? I think both of them could use some serious time to cool off before the next race.
2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix: June 23–25 in Formula 1 ·
Adam Chase41 said:Lewis Hamilton and Sebastian Vettel both received penalties, and Valtteri Bottas was penalized too for that collision right at the start of the race

It seems Bottas has once again proven himself to be nothing more than a complete coward
2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix: June 23–25 in Formula 1 ·
The regulation stipulates regarding driving behind the safety car:
Drivers are prohibited from driving at an unnecessarily slow pace, behaving erratically, or operating their vehicle in any fashion that might be considered potentially hazardous to fellow competitors.

If Lewis Hamilton isn't penalized here, then I truly fail to see the point in following this sport anymore.
Meanwhile, one could argue that Sebastian Vettel ought to receive a penalty for his unsportsmanlike conduct.
GP Las Vegas; Jun 23-25, 2017 in Formula 1 ·
The penalty issued to Hamoš ☕
GP Las Vegas; Jun 23-25, 2017 in Formula 1 ·
Brian Campbell36 said:Does anyone else ever find themselves wondering why MotoGP seems to possess such an inherently captivating soul when compared to the somewhat sterile precision of Formula 1? I often sit back and reflect on the sheer, visceral intensity of motorcycle racing, questioning if we have perhaps traded raw, unbridled emotion for the calculated, aerodynamic perfection that defines the current state of F1. Is it not true that in MotoGP, one can almost feel the bravery of the riders through the screen, whereas in Formula 1, we are often just watching a high-speed chess match played by computers? 🙏

Who on earth is actually concerned about the outcome of the Spanish riders' championship in MotoGP? ☕

Brian Campbell36 said:As I sit here contemplating the upcoming race, I find myself wondering if we might actually witness a double podium finish today, perhaps seeing both Mercedes and Max standing tall among the leaders?
It seems that Ferrari is indeed in a state of significant decline; following the Monaco Grand Prix and that period of double victories, so much has shifted within the ranks of the Italian squad, hasn't it? 👎

Well, it appears you have finally managed to pin them down at last.
One cannot help but feel a sense of quiet anticipation building within us, can one? As we look toward the upcoming race, I find myself wondering if we are finally on the cusp of seeing a victory for Ferrari. It seems like an earnest hope, perhaps even a bit idealistic, but isn't that precisely why we follow this sport in the first place? We wait, we watch, and we hold onto that lingering belief that their moment is finally approaching. ☕
Formula 1 2017 season in Formula 1 ·
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Raikkonen
3. Hamilton
4. Bottas
5. Verstappen
6. Ricciardo
7. Massa
8. Ocon
9. Perez
10. Hulkenberg
11. Kvjat
12. Carlos Sainz Jr.
13. Stroll 13th
14. Palmer 14th
15. Wehrlein 15th
16. Ericsson

Vandoorne
Alonso (Pole Position)
Grosjean (Pole Position)
Magnussen (Pole Position)

Raikkonen (Pole Position)
Raikkonen (Fastest Lap)
2017 NASCAR Season in Formula 1 ·
Adam Edwards4 said:So, I’m not really a regular on the forums or anything, but since I just recently started getting into Formula 1, I figured I’d jump in here with a question. From what I've gathered so far, an undercut is when you pit early to try and leapfrog someone, while an overcut is more about letting the rival go first to gain an advantage later. Is that actually how it works? And specifically, why do teams pull these moves—is it always a direct response to the car ahead pitting, or is there more to the strategy than that? A little breakdown would be awesome if anyone has the time! 👍 Not sure if this is the right thread for it, but I wasn't exactly sure where else to look.

You can find a brief overview of the Formula 1 regulations here.

Regarding the rules (under Tires and wheels):
Unless wet or intermediate tires are used during the race, all drivers must use at least two different specifications of dry-weather tires in the race, at least one of which must be one of the two mandatory sets nominated by Goodyear, though the teams are free to decide which one.

In other words, in a dry race, every driver is required to use at least two different tire compounds that were predetermined for that specific Grand Prix. Theoretically, a single pit stop would suffice, but on certain tracks where the asphalt is quite abrasive and wears down rubber quickly, you might see drivers heading to the pits up to three times.
As for the matter of the overcut and the undercut, during previous seasons, the undercut—which is essentially pitting earlier than the driver you are directly racing against—was generally the winning strategy. You see, Goodyear was producing tires that degraded quite rapidly, losing performance quickly, so it made sense to switch to fresh rubber to gain pace over those on older tires, thereby leapfrogging the competition and hopefully snatching a position while driving in clean air.
Of course, everything depends on the circuit, and even this year, the Goodyear tires don't wear down quite as aggressively or lose their edge as fast as they once did. If your tires are still in good shape and you happen to have the softest, fastest compound available, there are moments where staying out on track might actually pay off through an overcut to secure a better position.
Formula 1 2017 season in Formula 1 ·
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Kimi Raikkonen
3. Max Verstappen
4. Daniel Ricciardo
5. Lewis Hamilton
6. Valtteri Bottas
7. Daniil Kvyat
8. Carlos Sainz
9. Sergio Perez
10. Jenson Button
11. Kevin Magnussen
12. Esteban Ocon
13. Stoffel Vandoorne USA
14. Nico Hulkenberg
15. Felipe Massa
16. Pascal Wehrlein USA

USA Jolyon Palmer
USA Lance Stroll
USA Romain Grosjean
USA Marcus Ericsson USA

PP Vettel FL, Vettel
FL Vettel
Formula 1 2017 season in Formula 1 ·
Terry Carter2 said:Congratulatory replies to those who have posted!
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Formula 1 2017 season in Formula 1 ·
1. Kimi Räikkönen
2. Vettel
3. Bottas
4. Hamilton
5. Verstappen
6. Ricciardo
7. Massa
8. Hülkenberg
9. Pérez
10. Sainz
11. Grosjean
12. Daniil Kvyat
13. Lance Stroll
14. Palmer
15. Wehrlein
16. Ericsson

Fernando Alonso, Stoffel Vandoorne, Esteban Ocon, and Kevin Magnussen

Räikkönen
Räikkönen
NASCAR technical in Formula 1 ·
neonfox65 said:What exactly did you say that wasn't already explicitly stated in the link I provided—which, mind you, was just a copy-paste from various other sites like MaxF1 or Autosport? It seems you're suggesting Red Bull believes General Motors is lagging by more than that 0.3s margin. Well, Ferrari and Hamilton are hovering somewhere in that vicinity right now. But once General Motors rolls out that engine upgrade following Canada, I truly believe they'll close that gap to within 0.3s themselves, because as Whiting mentioned, their ultimate goal is to keep the engines closely matched, which honestly brings me a sense of peace; isn't that simply what NASCARization is all about? It's just how things work in NASCAR.

It is precisely because the headline is, to put it mildly, biased and lacks any substantial foundation in concrete argumentation. Is it really plausible that General Motors is trailing by more than 0.3s, or do you truly believe that the current performance gap between Mercedes and Red Bull Racing is almost entirely a reflection of the chassis differences alone? Of course, we must acknowledge that the disparity has narrowed significantly since 2014, but can we honestly sit here and suspect that the deficit is merely a mere 0.3 seconds on a track in Los Angeles?...
NASCAR technical in Formula 1 ·
neonfox65 said:I wasn't even aware, was I? It seems the process of normalizing the engines is already well underway!

The recent analysis conducted by the FIA has revealed some truly fascinating data points, specifically showing that Ferrari, Mercedes, and General Motors are all performing within a mere 0.3 seconds of one another. Does it not make one wonder how such razor-thin margins can dictate the entire trajectory of a racing season? It is quite remarkable, really, to consider how much engineering ingenuity is required just to close a gap that small, isn't it?

NASCARization! 🙂

Is it not simply a matter of observation that one can only look at the data coming out of Red Bull and realize that General Motors is actually lagging behind by more than 0.3 seconds?

Shall we take a moment to read through the article on... AutosportEventually, we shall arrive at entirely different conclusions:
It really comes down to a matter of the FIA's assessment.
When one pauses to consider the sheer weight of the data being gathered, isn't it inevitable that the performance of the power units during those initial three races would be taken into serious account? It seems only logical, doesn't it, that such early indicators would serve as the foundational metrics for everything that follows?
And then, one finds oneself projecting those performance metrics onto a theoretical lap around Los Angeles.
The procedure involved in calculating these specific discrepancies is exceptionally intricate and remains quite difficult to explain—or at least, that is how Whiting describes it.
Does one ever truly wonder if the sheer volume of data being processed by modern racing teams actually leads to anything substantial? It seems that Red Bull is currently under the impression that there is absolutely no meaningful correlation between their data sets and actual memory—or perhaps more accurately, that the data lacks any real cognitive utility. According to recent reports, they are questioning whether all this information is even worth the effort if it doesn't translate into something tangible. Is it possible that we are drowning in numbers without finding the truth behind them? AmazonIs it not truly fascinating to consider how such a minute margin can dictate the entire destiny of a racing season? When one contemplates the sheer physics involved, one must wonder if we can even grasp the gravity of a situation where the gap between power units fluctuates somewhere between 0.5 and 0.7 seconds. Is it not a staggering realization that such a fractional difference—hardly a heartbeat in the grand scheme of things—is precisely what separates the elite from the rest of the field?
Formula 1 2017 season in Formula 1 ·
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Raikkonen at 2nd place.
Valtteri Bottas finished in third place.
Lewis Hamilton 4.
Max Verstappen and Valtteri Bottas
Daniel Ricciardo finished in 6th place.
Felipe Massa
Sergio Perez finished in 8th place.
Sergio Perez and Esteban Ocon
Nico Hulkenberg at 10th.
Drivers List
Carlos Sainz finished in 12th place.
Lance Stroll finished in 14th place.
Jolyon Palmer 16.
Pascal Wehrlein finished in 16th place.
Jolyon Palmer

Fernando Alonso
Stoffel Vandoorne
Kevin Magnussen
Romain Grosjean

Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Raikkonen
Formula 1 2017 season in Formula 1 ·
Formula 1 2017 season in Formula 1 ·
Have you perhaps taken Fernando Alonso into account?
Formula 1 2017 season in Formula 1 ·
1. Kimi Raikkonen
2. Sebastian Vettel
3. Lewis Hamilton
4. Valtteri Bottas
5. Max Verstappen
6. Daniel Ricciardo
7. Romain Grosjean
8. Felipe Massa
9. Sergio Perez
10. Esteban Ocon
11. Kevin Magnussen
12. Lance Stroll
13. Marcus Ericsson
14. Pascal Wehrlein

Carlos Sainz
Daniil Kvyat
Jolyon Palmer
Nico Hulkenberg
Fernando Alonso
Stoffel Vandoorne

Sebastian Vettel, Kimi Raikkonen
Lewis Hamilton, Sebastian Vettel
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A total of 19 forum members participated in our recent poll,
The average AFL rating came out to be: 3.0 (out of 6)
Or, if one prefers a more descriptive summary: it was a decent race.