Who’s going to crack first?
Massa?
Raikkonen?
Grosjean?
Maldonado?
Massa?
Raikkonen?
Grosjean?
Maldonado?
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Jason Campbell70 said:Regarding the forecast, we're looking at typical gloomy weather in the UK.
Tyler Bennett5 said:I didn't really double-check things before jumping in today, so I'm not sure if
you actually meant the English or the women from Scotland. 🤷
shadowhawk24 said:Actually, I think there’s a tiny mistake here. Shouldn't that bolded part say "slow"? 🤷
Roger Wright94 said:It’s pretty obvious who really knows their Formula 1 and how it all works.
gentlecobra23 said:didn't realize his daughter was playing the slut...
Mark Ruiz8 said:Besides, Susie Wolff drives for Williams.
silentbear49 said:this is pure discrimination against women!!!!
electricmaker40 said:Modern Formula 1 cars just aren't built for driving in the rain—not in the way you’d actually want to experience it. Everything feels so sanitized now; just listen to the sound of those tires squealing through the corners... it's all so controlled.
I'm not sure what you used to get behind the wheel of, but it's clearly been a long time since you've actually driven anything.
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electricmaker40 said:Modern Formula 1 cars just aren't built for driving in the rain—not in the way you’d actually want to experience it. Everything feels so sanitized now; just listen to the sound of those tires squealing through the corners... it's all so controlled.
I'm not sure what you used to get behind the wheel of, but it's clearly been a long time since you've actually driven anything.
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ruggedhawk20 said:They were being loud as hell even before this—you could barely hear anything over the engines
Look, Formula 1 existed way before 2014 too


stormybadger8 Asks:
If Red Bull Racing actually manages to outpace Mercedes when it comes to pure power and speed, then even a driver like Ricci becomes a massive bonus for Vettel—a gift worth its weight in gold.☕
steelmaker83 said:Now you're being more precise. There is a massive difference between someone picking up points because it's their only option, versus driving conservatively by choice. In 2012, Fernando Alonso wasn't just grabbing points because he wanted to; he was doing it because it was all he could manage. That's a huge distinction.
steelmaker83 said:What about the moderators? Don't start whining at me now... where is this nonsense coming from?
jadeseal7 said:Isn't that just academic? Exactly your style... ☕
ruggedhawk20 said:Are you implying that Alain Prost, Nelson Piquet, René Arnoux, Niki Lauda, and Nigel Mansell all died or got injured at once? Is that why Keke Rosberg snatched the title?
Or did Rosberg just... slap them all around? 😍
steelmaker83 said:Regarding the idea that Fernando Alonso was just coasting through the second half of 2012 to farm points.
steelmaker83 said: That's just pure nonsense born from a lack of intelligence. We can dive deeper into the proper thread.
swifttiger75 said:Not really, though it’s pretty obvious that the little aristocrat will capitalize on every single one of Hamilton's DNFs to the absolute limit.
swifttiger75 said:Nico Rosberg is doing exactly what he's supposed to do, isn't he? Maybe even too perfectly for some people's taste!
ruggedhawk20 said:Among the contenders, only Pironi suffered an injury, and Villeneuve was the only one who tragically lost his life (we can safely ignore Palettia, because even if he had survived, he wouldn't have been a factor)
All the other title contenders made it to the end of the season healthy and sound.
That would be: Piquet, Lauda, Prost, Watson, Alboreto, and Arnoux.
The real "problem" with the 1982 season wasn't Villeneuve or Pironi. The problem was that Ferrari, Renault, McLaren, Williams, Brabham, and even Tyrrell were all competitive.
At the start of the year, Prost dominated in the Renault. In fact, Prost is the biggest loser of that season because he was the one who should have taken the title. The Renault was a better car than the Ferrari. Unfortunately, during 1982, Prost seemed more interested in Larrousse's wife than in driving the car. So, the Renault was better than the Ferrari. Marginally, but still better. The atmospheric cars were all right there. McLaren and Williams were the best, followed closely by Tyrrell and the Brabham—which ran some races with a Ford atmospheric engine—while those running the BMW turbo were actually better than both the McLaren and the Williams. Overall, this is how I would rank them:
1) Renault
2) Ferrari
3) McLaren - Ford
4) Brabham - BMW
5) Williams - Ford
6) Brabham - Ford
7) Tyrrell - Ford
These were all cars that won during the 1982 season, plus Lotus—though I’m not counting them since, realistically, they weren't a competitive car in '82.
Furthermore, no one else won more than two races that season. It’s an anomaly. No other season has ever seen such a wide dispersion of winners as 1982. Never. And that has nothing to do with Villeneuve's death—who honestly never had what it takes to be a world champion anyway—nor does it have anything to do with Pironi's broken legs.
It comes down to those seven competitive teams—all of whom (along with Lotus) took turns winning throughout 1982.
Rosberg didn't miss out on the title because Villeneuve and Pironi were gone; he missed it because he simply scored the most points.
And believe me, even if Villeneuve and Pironi had both made it to the end of the season unscathed, neither would have been champion.
It would have been either Prost or Rosberg.
And don't let Pironi's 39 points fool you—in a hypothetical scenario where Villeneuve lives (and Pironi is whole), Villeneuve would have taken at least 10 of those 39 points.
So Pironi would finish that hypothetical season with 29 + 11 (which he would have picked up after Hockenheim) = 40.
steelmaker83 said:I find it strange that you, among the more intelligent members of this forum, are still pushing the narrative about how Fernando Alonso was just hunting for points at the end of 2012. Why cling to that?
steelmaker83 said:That’s just pure nonsense. It’s nothing more than a display of superficiality and lack of intellect—honestly, it's just as bad as that whole mess we saw during the discussion about the Monaco GP.
stormybadger8 said:Where exactly was Lewis Hamilton during those 2010 and 2012 seasons? With all that raw speed he possesses, how did he manage to go missing like that?
Looking back at the 2012 season... there were times when he clearly had the fastest car on the grid. Not just once, either. More than once.
stormybadger8 said:Sure, it’s definitely more exciting to watch. But let's be real—that cautious, calculated approach from Alonso paid off way more than Hamilton's "win at all costs" mentality. Is it worth the risk? Maybe not. But he plays it smart.
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Just look at what the stats show from the start of 2007 through today...
Hamilton has 26 wins and 22 DNFs... almost like he’s breaking even, isn't he? 😁
Nico Rosberg: five wins and seventeen DNFs... Just how does that happen?
No matter how you look at it, Lewis Hamilton was always the one driving the faster, more expensive cars. It stands to reason they should have been more reliable too, not less...
stormybadger8 said:Everything you're saying holds up, and I agree. But then there's that ridiculous final race...
If Hamilton—who is basically a guaranteed win—had just sat that race out, wouldn't we be sitting here arguing that Rosberg should have had four or five wins and Hamilton ten, yet Rosberg would still be the champion?
stormybadger8 said:Look, that’s not really the point...
Just look at that 2012 season. 😉
I watched it back once and was honestly stunned it was even possible...
Consider Rosberg vs. Michael Schumacher in the races where they both finished:😳
7 wins to 2 for Schumacher, yet Rosberg walked away with 93 points compared to Schumacher's 49.😳
That tells you everything you need to know...
The issue is that Rosberg is the type of driver similar to Fernando Alonso...
Not quite possessing that level of raw talent, but certainly on par when it comes to racing intelligence...
graniteharbor502 said:Got a link for this?
stormybadger8 said:He might have the edge for the title, sure, but he isn't faster.
Dead serious here.
stormybadger8 said:Man, Massa and Perez really messed up here. 😳
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f8YrWb7i_Q
Honestly, Vettel handled that perfectly. I have no idea how he managed to avoid hitting Massa while dealing with that sudden jerk to the right...
jadeseal7 said:He’ll just argue that lower gears let you hit higher RPMs more easily, helping you gain speed—especially when you've got the DRS open while drafting in the slipstream.
I'm not saying Mercedes isn't fast or superior, 🙂 but it isn't quite 😲 what you're implying.