CNN Indianapolis Motor Speedway 09/08/2013
in Formula 1 ·
And there's no way Red Bull is going to mess up Webber's clutch settings. ☕
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slybison8 said:If you're actually referring to Fernando Alonso as the Maestro, then I honestly hope he crashes out in the very first lap.
Calling the pit crew "idiots" during qualifying seems to me like a particularly crude way to behave.
stormybadger8 said:The RB9 isn't exactly a dominant machine...
Amanda Kelly said:Sure, in the long run, maybe.
But honestly, it felt like Lewis didn't quite nail Eau Rouge. He wasn't at his limit. That’s probably why Vettel was glued to his gearbox and could pass him so easily.
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William Bennett53 said:http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227...r-off-to-blame
Interesting stuff. Renault is claiming that some discarded visor film ended up blocking Kimi Räikkönen's brake duct.
crimsonstag84 said:Heh, how was he supposed to defend? Mercedes was slower than a Caterham through Eau Rouge, and by the time Vettel actually hit the gas coming out of La Source after the start, you could already tell holding onto that position past Kemmel was going to be nearly impossible. 🙂
Up until Eau Rouge, I suspect Hamilton burned through most of his KERS while Vettel saved plenty since following in the slipstream was so easy. Hamilton clipped a curb a bit on the exit, which didn't help, but I don't think there was much else he could do. A 10s slipstream plus KERS and a bit more straight-line speed equals an overtake.
Maybe they leaned toward a wet setup given the higher downforce and that short RB-style 7th gear (196 miles/h limiter), or maybe they were just trying to find a balance with more downforce that they couldn't quite nail on Friday.
By the way, during those first 2-3 laps, Vettel was over a second faster in just the second sector compared to everyone else. 😂 That’s probably not just the driver at work. 😁 It looks like they absolutely nailed the setup.
Amanda Kelly said:Well, I guess I was right then.
If Lewis Hamilton had just held on for a few more laps, Alonso would have walked away with the win.
Amanda Kelly said:You mean TBF!? Because I can't think of anyone else in that circle.
What was I getting at?
I’m actually pretty happy with how Ferrari is looking. The car was fast in every condition—really fast. As for qualifying, I think that was just a lucky break.
To pull off a Red Bull Vettel combination today, you basically needed Alonso starting on pole to have any chance.
The Ferrari was powerful (almost like it was back in Barcelona) and Alonso was excellent, but unfortunately, it just wasn't enough.
The guy won the race with one lightning-fast move (one I didn't even see coming). I'm sure there was some kind of mistake by Lewis, but regardless, Sebastian Vettel's performance was flawless. I was watching the race on German TV and couldn't make heads or tails of the commentary. All I saw was that there wasn't even a hint of anyone closing in on the leader. Maybe the kid could have even been faster.
The only way things significantly change is if the cows die.
Amanda Kelly said:You mean TBF!? Because I can't think of anyone else in that circle.
What was I getting at?
I’m actually pretty happy with how Ferrari is looking. The car was fast in every condition—really fast. As for qualifying, I think that was just a lucky break.
To pull off a Red Bull Vettel combination today, you basically needed Alonso starting on pole to have any chance.
The Ferrari was powerful (almost like it was back in Barcelona) and Alonso was excellent, but unfortunately, it just wasn't enough.
The guy won the race with one lightning-fast move (one I didn't even see coming). I'm sure there was some kind of mistake by Lewis, but regardless, Sebastian Vettel's performance was flawless. I was watching the race on German TV and couldn't make heads or tails of the commentary. All I saw was that there wasn't even a hint of anyone closing in on the leader. Maybe the kid could have even been faster.
The only way things significantly change is if the cows die.
David Anderson72 said:Lewis himself admitted he let Vettel past at the start just so he could overtake him again at Kemmel.
Amanda Kelly said:True, but Webber was stuck behind Mercedes without any real chance to pass. Meanwhile, the Red Bull (at least Vettel's) was dialed in for pure speed, and that's on a track where overtaking isn't an issue.
Was Webber's car set up differently, or is Vettel honestly just that much faster than Webber?
To me, it smells like the first one, though I can't say for sure. Red Bull can struggle when they're stuck in dirty air.
“The two practice starts before the race weren’t great and so we were a bit worried about the clutch going to the start, which put us on to the back foot. We tried our best, but lost a couple of rows off the line which is not good. We then had to try and clear people on the track, which was difficult, as we had set up the top gear to race in clean air, rather than to pass. The bad start put us out of position and it snowballs from there, as you use up the tyres trying to get back into position.”
...Once he was compromised in his positioning within the pack, he wasn’t able to get a clean run through La Source and Alonso managed to get a run on him down the hill and pass him into Eau Rouge. Thereafter it was a matter of trying to find a way through, past the Mercedes and Ferrari ahead, but unfortunately whenever we got close enough we seemed to lose aero performance and so Mark couldn’t get close enough to make a move. We didn’t come here expecting to win today, so it’s great to get a victory to start the second half of the season.”
Amanda Kelly said:a) Was Massa running without KERS? For the whole race?
b) What kind of conditions would it have actually taken for Alonso to be fighting for the win today?
I don't know, his Ferrari just didn't look particularly powerful to me today. Honestly, the only way he had a shot was if he'd started on pole.
Hamilton basically killed any suspense regarding the win. I can't tell if it was a mistake, a lapse in concentration, or some technical issue—maybe overheating tires or something—but I find it unacceptable. If you take the pole and clear the first corner in the lead, you shouldn't let someone overtake you immediately in the opening lap. Just a pure pass, no technical assistance involved. I think anything could have happened if Lewis had just held on for two or three laps.
That doesn't take away from Vettel's move, though. The guy just has a nose for blood, and his execution was flawless.
Raymond Anderson4 said:I don't think they fixed anything. It’s just that Spa and Monza happen to suit them perfectly.
Personally, I've already given up on the championship title... it's easier that way. At least I won't be disappointed when we hit Singapore and Korea and start falling half a second behind per lap again.
David Anderson72 said:Undignified performance by Team USA 🤮
The winner 🤮
Fernando 🙏🙏
fadedwalker18 said:I’m calling it quits on this race right now (the NBC broadcast is a total mess, anyway). I just can't deal with it... all this constant stuttering... and why on earth isn't that damn FACEPALM working!!??
.Thomas Long7 said:Honestly, this was one of the absolute worst races we've seen at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway in recent years.😢