Posts by Jason Campbell70

David Anderson72 said:Schumacher had his share of dark moments too. He was temperamental, he crashed, he wasn't afraid of a physical confrontation. But even then, people respected him—and they still do. He's one of the two greatest to ever do it.
As for Vettel, the respect seems to be limited to a very specific crowd.🙂

Besides, doesn't the atmosphere on this forum prove the point? 😁
Regarding Vettel—it’s just one fan and a handful of trolls or bandwagoners crawling out of their holes every time he grabs a win.

Four laps in ten seconds.

Tyler Bennett5 said:Sure, I guess over 70% of fans worldwide follow Red Bull.
Those fans are incredibly objective, right? They see that Vettel wins championships solely because he drinks a specific energy drink. Yet, those very same fans cheer for Alonso because they view him as a superhuman driver. Even if he’s driving for their biggest rival.

But seriously, why was Schumacher never treated this poorly? Why was he never targeted so "rudely"?
Are you suggesting it's just because Schumacher's fans always held the majority?

Is the issue really just the ratio of Ferrari's fans compared to everyone else?

The truth is, Vettel drove a flawless race. Perfect. He didn't damage anyone or anything.
A clean, sporting, fair, and honest victory.
And yet, the crowd boos. They chant "A-LON-SO, A-LON-SO."

Something is clearly rotten in the Vettel narrative.
Especially considering how much he's being booed across the USA, all through Europe, and even in Asia.

Haha, my ABC feed just went black a minute or two ago. 👋

Drew Bennett68 said:Di Resta is still ahead of Alonso.

It could easily stay that way until Di Resta hits the pits.

Come on Perez, pull the SC out. 😁

shadowstag10 said:It’s even worse than back in the Brawn GP days. 🤮

Mercedes AMG Petronas only lasted for a single season.
Are we really watching this same scam for the fourth season in a row?

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Over three and a half seconds lost in just two laps.

I am with Nico Rosberg on this one. 🙏

The father was a fraud, and the son? He hasn't a clue.

maestro! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Watch the start and those first few laps, then head out.

stormybadger8 said:That was quite the self-description. And you even went ahead and dropped a link where you're just recycling someone else's thoughts.🤣🤣🤣

Post date: 06/13/2013.

Smart enough.
By all means, feel free to come back for more.

stormybadger8 said:Maybe they were watching some low-budget local news station back home...

A driver's character is reflected in his fans, isn't it?

stormybadger8 said:Well, it's Monday, which is basically the international day for being humble...
If it were Saturday or Sunday, things would be different.😁

Will we finally see a day where common sense prevails?

stormybadger8 said:Funny enough, it’s actually true, and I think I’m one of the more objective guys here.🤣
The only one who shows up on threads like this and stays actually objective is Jim Clark...
As for the rest? Rarely. It’s not like they don't take sides, but seeing someone stay neutral is a total rarity—and honestly, it's pretty pathetic.😁

My respected colleague, why be so modest?

stormybadger8 said:Was Chelavi changing tires in the pits?
Did Chelavi shock Ferrari with two lightning-fast pit stops?

Oh right, I probably just missed it because I’m wearing my biased fan glasses.😁

Lewis Hamilton built a car capable of a comfortable three-tenths lead per lap; once you have that, you can pit whenever you feel like it.

stormybadger8 said:Was Chelavi changing tires in the pits?
Did Chelavi shock Ferrari with two lightning-fast pit stops?

Oh right, I probably just missed it because I’m wearing my biased fan glasses.😁

I find that hard to believe. You’re being perfectly objective, aren't you?

stormybadger8 said:It was the crew that made the difference yesterday—the team and the driver together, way more than just the car... and when you look at Webber compared to those two Ferraris, it’s mostly down to the crew.☕

You could see this interesting trend perfectly at Indianapolis Motor Speedway.😁
The kind of teamwork other teams can only dream about...🙏

Lap 23:
The gap Vettel - Webber was about 11 seconds, and they both hit the pits at the same time.
First, the stop for Vettel took 2.6 seconds, then Webber’s stop followed at 2.7 seconds—not even a millisecond of waiting for Webber while Vettel’s crew finished up.🙏

An insane gain.🙏
Vettel vs. Alonso: before the pit stops, he had about a 5-second lead; after Alonso exited the pits, that lead jumped to roughly 10 seconds. That’s a massive 5-second swing by the end of the race.🙏

Webber vs. Massa: before pitting, he was trailing by about 1 second; after the stop, he came out with a 2-second lead.🙏
Webber vs. Alonso: before the pits, he was down about 6 seconds, but after the stops, he was only about a second behind...

The crew deserves all the credit for closing that gap; it was much more about them than the machinery.☕
Even Vettel couldn't pull away from Alonso by more than maybe 0.200 on average per lap. To put that in perspective, for Webber and Vettel to have gained that much ground on Alonso through pure pace alone, it would have theoretically taken them 25 laps. Instead, the Red Bull mechanics and strategists just did it in the pits.🙏

Yesterday at Indy, almost every top car was neck-and-neck—maybe the closest we've seen in the last 10 seasons.
I don't recall a race where even Hulkenberg and Massa could hang with the Red Bull pace, let alone having the top six drivers finish within 10 seconds of each other in a standard dry race without an SC (and I'm not talking about Monaco on those crumbling Pirelli tires...).

Just look at the comparison to the Red Bull wins in2013 and 2011. Look at how many cars were in the same lap, and where the backmarkers were compared to the winner... And man, some of them didn't even manage to stay on the same lap.

And honestly, even Hamilton’s McLaren2012 and Alonso’s Ferrari2010 had significantly more dominant wins than what we saw yesterday, which clearly shows those cars were way more dominant over the field at Indy.

Primarily that Chelavi guy on the team.

Amanda Kelly said:It’s funny how the tire consistency always seems to finally show up right around this point in the season.

Maybe it's because the teams finally "cook" the tires after ten races?

stormybadger8 said:The fact that Webber couldn't pass him is proof enough that he absolutely had a shot at winning. ☕

If he had qualified P3 on the grid (which was anything but an impossible mission...), considering how much better Ferrari's starts were compared to Red Bull, plus the fact that Red Bull eats tires way faster than Ferrari and they generally behave in opposite ways...
Red Bull is fast at the start of a stint but falls off toward the end, while Ferrari is slower initially but picks up speed later and the tires last longer...
On top of that, Red Bull definitely isn't a car capable of overtaking Ferrari even with DRS. 😉

So, with a solid qualifying and a decent start, a win was totally within reach.
Even if nothing else, he could have been breathing down their necks. After that initial advantage wore off and Alonso settled into P2, it was just too late.

At the end of the day, I didn't get the impression that Red Bull was the fastest... it looked like that at Spa, but definitely not at Monza.
Maybe it wasn't even Ferrari, but Kimi and Hamilton were insanely quick—it's just that they completely blew it in qualifying.
Look, after all that nonsense with their early pit stops, there's one interesting thing... Hamilton and Kimi were steadily chipping away at Vettel's lead and putting together a whole string of faster laps than him, all while dealing with dirty air and a bunch of overtakes...

Webber managed to close the gap on Alonso despite a busted front wing and a failing gearbox. He stayed right on his tail, pulling laps that were just as fast as Alonso's. How does he even keep up like that?

I'm telling you again—it’s a car that’s been fundamentally broken from the start.

stormybadger8 said:The fact that Webber couldn't pass him is proof enough that he absolutely had a shot at winning. ☕

If he had qualified P3 on the grid (which was anything but an impossible mission...), considering how much better Ferrari's starts were compared to Red Bull, plus the fact that Red Bull eats tires way faster than Ferrari and they generally behave in opposite ways...
Red Bull is fast at the start of a stint but falls off toward the end, while Ferrari is slower initially but picks up speed later and the tires last longer...
On top of that, Red Bull definitely isn't a car capable of overtaking Ferrari even with DRS. 😉

So, with a solid qualifying and a decent start, a win was totally within reach.
Even if nothing else, he could have been breathing down their necks. After that initial advantage wore off and Alonso settled into P2, it was just too late.

At the end of the day, I didn't get the impression that Red Bull was the fastest... it looked like that at Spa, but definitely not at Monza.
Maybe it wasn't even Ferrari, but Kimi and Hamilton were insanely quick—it's just that they completely blew it in qualifying.
Look, after all that nonsense with their early pit stops, there's one interesting thing... Hamilton and Kimi were steadily chipping away at Vettel's lead and putting together a whole string of faster laps than him, all while dealing with dirty air and a bunch of overtakes...

Not a chance.
Red Bull is basically sitting at the level of Caterham.
It’s Vettel who makes the difference.

So?
Last year, while driving for Sauber, Sergio Perez finished 15 seconds ahead of Fernando Alonso.
And?

graniteharbor502 said:I wonder, which part of the question regarding how satisfied Alonso's supporters can be with his current performance remains unclear?

That part of your post doesn't matter to me. I didn't even address it.

graniteharbor502 said:A significant portion of your argument holds weight, I suppose. It seems to me that Lewis Hamilton's race was fundamentally compromised by yesterday's chaotic turn of events during Q2, for which he himself bears at least partial responsibility—though he did step up and take the blame. However, what truly occupies my thoughts is how much satisfaction the fans of Fernando Alonso can actually derive from today's performance. Is it not possible that, within a Ferrari of this caliber, Nico Hulkenberg might have proven to be a far more formidable competitor than Fernando Alonso himself?

I'm not an Alonso fan, but I'll weigh in.

From where I'm sitting, Hulkenberg wouldn't just be "more competitive" than Alonso in this field... he'd probably have the championship locked up by September.

Forget one or two titles. 🙏