Posts by Roger Richardson61

Prosport actually has a shop over in Ljubljana at that huge "Mall of America" style complex they have there.

Optimum Nutrition at Prosport is definitely the cheapest way to go.
Anyway, can someone please make sense of the pricing over at Prosport? It's driving me crazy.
So, I'm looking at this link and it says the ON is $99, but then I log in and suddenly it jumps to $115!
Then there's the Optimum Nutrition stuff—it shows up as $70, but once I'm signed in, it drops to $65.

WTF!?

Of course you can.
Buying protein for PWM is just throwing money down the drain if your diet isn't dialed in first. You've gotta get your nutrition sorted before you even think about supplements.

Protein is great. There's an old saying that basically goes, "you get what you pay for" when it comes to whey. If your budget allows for it, honestly, go ahead and have some both in the morning and right before you hit the gym. Also, definitely toss some glucose into your PWM after your workout. It’s incredibly useful and practically costs nothing.
Just don't bother with whey at night—even if that Weider stuff isn't 100% pure whey, most of it still works that way—because it digests way too fast. For your nighttime snack, stick to cottage cheese. I've said it a thousand times, but it takes hours to break down, unlike whey which disappears in minutes.

I honestly never touch whey protein, whether it’s chocolate or vanilla, because that weirdly "milky" aftertaste just drives me crazy. If you're mixing it with water, you're much better off grabbing a fruit flavor instead—it doesn't hit you quite as hard.

brightharbor26 said:ketty....sorry ..I honestly don't have an answer for you on that one... but I'll just jump in with a question 😁 ... and I'm also wondering if you actually gain weight from whey?

Look, people gain weight because they eat more calories than they burn. One gram of protein is about 4 calories, which is the same as a gram of carbs, while fats pack about 9 calories per gram.
The reason you shouldn't stress about gaining fat from protein is simply because it's incredibly hard to overeat it. If you tried to eat a whole pound of low-fat cottage cheese—which is pure protein—you’d be hitting the same calorie count as eating a single Hershey bar. Carbs and proteins hit similarly, but let's be real: you can polish off carbs in seconds, whereas getting enough protein requires some actual effort and planning.

brightharbor26 said:so just tell me, if I take my whey and that sugar mix with water in my shaker right after the gym (around 6:00 PM)... can I still eat a normal dinner around 7:30 PM? ... basically, what happens to my muscles if I spend two hours hitting every machine at the gym, drink my whey afterward, and then stick to three regular meals a day ??? 😕

Like the guys already mentioned, you should aim to have your next meal about an hour after finishing the whey.

rapiddriver11 said:I can't stand whey mixed with water; mixing it with milk is delicious. It actually makes me look forward to hitting the gym because I know I get to drink that afterward...🙂 I know water is technically better, but is it really such a huge disaster if I use 2% milk?

It isn't really about the fat content in the milk. The real issue is the lactose, which digests slowly and ends up slowing down how fast the whey gets absorbed.
A decent workaround would be grabbing something like a lactose-free milk from a brand like Fairlife, though those tend to be higher in fat anyway, so it's not a perfect fix.

It won't make any difference at all.

goldenfox24 said:So, I guess glucose tablets 500 could work instead of pure glucose...
I can already hear jadetiger962 coming for my neck about this one.

Dextrose is basically just what you find in those glucose tablets, and if I remember correctly, it's essentially the mirror molecule of glucose.
Basically, we're talking about almost the exact same thing.

Dennis Lewis6 said:LOL, did you guys know artificial proteins actually wreck your kidneys?

Nah, but we definitely know how to use a period and a question mark.

Don't bother mixing your whey with milk—it just slows down the absorption process too much. And honestly, I've never heard anyone claim that milk actually helps burn fat.

I honestly think Weider Premium in that chocolate-nougat flavor tastes way better than Nesquik. 🙂

I’ve never actually tried Multpower, but honestly, most whey proteins are pretty much the same thing. Once you’ve put in the work to build up your muscle mass, I doubt even the pro athletes would notice a massive difference.

Just grab whichever one tastes better to you, mixes smoothly, and doesn't mess with your stomach...

These little single-serve packs are such a rip-off. You can grab a massive tub of protein, like 5 lbs, for $167. That brings your cost down to about $73/lb, whereas if you go with this MuscleTech stuff, you're looking at $120/lb.

Oh, and one more thing—try eating some slow-digesting protein right before you hit the hay. Low-fat cottage cheese is perfect for that.

Inkospor is top-tier stuff.

All I know for sure is that Whey Protein is the only protein that's ever given me such bad stomach issues. 😁

I spent some time digging through that gym forum thread you shared.

Honestly, there's a lot of truth to the idea that hitting your PWM right after anaerobic training is key, especially if you’re careful about not overdoing the glucose. The guy made some really solid points.

So, here’s my new game plan: I’ll start with a quick 15-minute warmup on the stationary bike, move into the heavy lifting, knock back my PWM, and then jump straight onto the bike again for another 35 to 40 minutes.

The one thing I'm still trying to dial in is exactly how much sugar to toss into the PWM. Right now, I usually just mix in one full scoop of whey, which ends up being about 50 grams of dextrose.

James Lewis6 said:You've got it wrong. Aerobic running doesn't cause muscle catabolism nearly as much as anaerobic stuff does—not even close. Where'd you get that idea? With light aerobic work, you burn through glycogen most at the start if you haven't worked out yet, but later on, things level out and you start tapping into fat stores at a higher percentage..

So, aerobic exercise doesn't lead to catabolism? Just look at marathon runners.
With anaerobic training, you deal with catabolism, sure, but you also get muscle growth if your nutrition is on point. With aerobic, you don't really get anything besides catabolism, even if it happens at a lower rate.
That’s why I’m saying if you knock out the aerobic part first and then move to the anaerobic, you can take some PWM to stop that catabolism and feed those muscles some protein.

James Lewis6 said:I don't agree with your second point either...
I’d drink PWM after an anaerobic workout because of the catabolism, right? The muscles need protein urgently. But, there's no issue if we consume too much glucose and insulin gets released, which blocks fat burning...
That's why you have to trick the body. Drink the PWM to use it for refueling, while the aerobic part burns off the fat. It's complicated and goes against a few "rules," but the goal is to trick the body in the smartest way possible..

So, your advice boils down to this:
1) anaerobic training
2) PWM
3) aerobic training

How many grams of carbs would you even put in that PWM?

Maybe just take pure protein after the anaerobic session, and then save the glucose for after the aerobic one?
Because I don't quite get how you plan to trick the body if you're feeding it carbohydrates?

The absolute best way to mix aerobic and anaerobic training would be separating the sessions.
I mean, like Jason Campbell70 says, if you hit the cardio first, you’re burning through your glycogen stores, which means your muscle mass takes a much bigger hit during the actual lifting. But then again, there's a catch. If you lift weights and then go straight into a 40-50 minute cardio session instead of grabbing your PWM right away, you're missing out on that immediate window for carbs and protein. You really want those nutrients hitting your system to stop catabolism and kickstart recovery. Honestly, you deal with catabolism during cardio just about as much as you do during weightlifting anyway.

So, there isn't really one perfect formula. As for a 15-minute warm-up before jumping into the heavy stuff? I'd recommend that to anyone. I know from my own experience—if I actually take the time to warm up, I can usually squeeze out 2 or 3 more pull-ups than when I skip it.

James Lewis6 said:Hey, it's definitely recommended to do cardio after anaerobic training if you're looking to drop some weight... it's the fastest way to do it. So, here's a little trick question: after an anaerobic workout with weights, do you drink your PWM (protein + glucose) before the cardio, or do you finish the cardio first and then have the PWM?...

I wouldn't touch PWM right before cardio if I were you. If you do, you're basically telling your body to burn everything else *except* your body fat. I made that mistake once, and it took me about half an hour to realize, "Wait, what nonsense am I doing?"

They’d definitely pull off something meaningful if they were sitting in a Red Bull seat—that team isn't exactly a pushover when facing the giants. But trying to be that much faster in a Minardi? It’s just impossible. Honestly, it feels like they're trying to break the laws of physics at this point.