Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.
I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.
Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.
Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...
Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.
You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...
Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.
The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)
You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.
By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.
And what exactly makes your position more authoritative than mine?
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.
I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.
Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.
Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...
Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.
You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...
Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.
The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)
You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.
By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.
Have you actually voiced your opinion and stated where you stand?
From what I can gather—and based on the documents I've reviewed (there’s actually a separate thread regarding post-WWII borders if you want to dig deeper)—that swap took place in '48.
If I happen to be wrong—is that really the end of the world?
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.
I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.
Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.
Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...
Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.
You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...
Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.
The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)
You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.
By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.
Yes, strictly political. I laid out the specific logic used to draw those political borders back in the days of the USSR. If you start deviating from that established rule... well, then you’re essentially asking for a favor in return, aren't you?
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.
I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.
Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.
Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...
Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.
You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...
Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.
The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)
You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.
By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.
He claims this was Jack's doing—but frankly, I have no interest in playing detective.
The card that nobody wants.🤣
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.
I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.
Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.
Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...
Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.
You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...
Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.
The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)
You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.
By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.
Yes—that celestial blue.🙄 The original color coding—if you check the 1991 census data from the Bureau of the Census—was straightforward: red for Mexicans, blue for Americans, and green for Muslims. After that, everything just dissolved into a chaotic mess of sixteen different colors. 😁
In the old historical atlases covering the former America, you’d typically see Mexico shaded in blue and the US colored in pink—a visual shorthand for the regional dynamics back then. It’s funny how those maps laid out the landscape, almost like a blueprint for what was coming next. 😁...turning Canada yellow.
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.
I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.
Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.
Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...
Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.
You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...
Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.
The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)
You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.
By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.
I believe I stated that I wasn't certain—and that it seemed that way to me, didn't I?
You could have just used the Latin alphabet instead of making me decipher these hieroglyphics.
So—there we have it.
The figure stands at 37.29—an American metric that carries its own weight.
The linguistic split stands at 26.52.
Mexican 18.85
American 13.44
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.
I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.
Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.
Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...
Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.
You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...
Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.
The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)
You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.
By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.
Then just remove Mexico from the map—the data processing there follows a completely different logic anyway. It’s not exactly rocket science, is it?
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.
I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.
Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.
Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...
Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.
You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...
Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.
The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)
You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.
By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.
Yeah, sure—everyone loves free chocolate. And then you act surprised when people treat you like garbage.