Posts by wiredotter14

It’s not some paid ad—UserBenchmark is just a total pile of garbage.

Stick to actual reviews and benchmarks for the specific apps you actually use.

The All-in setup features a Ryzen-9-3900X. That’s a 12-core beast that actually rivals the top-tier Intel desktop chips, like the i9 10900K, while being significantly more efficient on power.

Look, it's total overkill. You don't need it. But if you're chasing extreme performance and money is no object...

https://www.amazon.com/corsair-vengeance-lpX-ddr4-16gb/dp/B07V6G6N6D

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/crucial-memory-ddr4-16gb-2x8gb/5446154.html

Not sure why some shops claim a 2-year warranty.
This one says 5 years.

https://www.newegg.com/gskill-ddr4-16gb-2x8gb/p/N82E16820213523

It’s about PUBG Lite. A guy I know running an Intel Core i5-2500 and an RX460 plays it without any issues at all.

Nah, it’ll be fine for older games

so, you actually have the RAM?

Just a bunch of scammers, right?

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wearymason4 said:...man, you actually got a laugh out of me 🤣
About ten years back, I had these two high school kids from an electronics track drop off a custom PC build with a brand-new motherboard. They basically handed it to me as a "fix this" job because nothing worked after they put it together... then they hand me the manual and a little bag of screws that included all those brass standoffs 🤦
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Why wouldn't it work? Obviously, you can't force things to the point where the board bends or won't line up with the case IO
I remember years ago working on some ancient junk where half the hardware was missing. I just used thicker case screws instead of the standard motherboard ones and it worked just fine
You don't need to tighten them down hard. The board can sit a little loose, as long as the screws are holding it in place

if it works it ain't stupid 😁
#thereifixedit

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classic

Just grab some thicker screws and drive them in directly without using any spacers. If a couple of them just keep spinning, leave it alone—just don't go doing any backflips with your computer.

That MS Platinum claims to be 400W, but it’s only pushing 168W on the 12V rail. 😁😁😁
In theory, it might handle that build, but it smells like cheap, bottom-tier junk to me. I wouldn't risk it.
Any B450 motherboard will handle 3200MHz RAM just fine. With Ryzen, RAM support mostly comes down to the CPU itself. Just grab one with 4 slots if you want any hope of being futureproof.

BTW, we aren't talking about massive performance gaps here.
The Intel i3 9100 f would be slightly faster, but it's not a dealbreaker.

As for the PSU, this one is decent enough, but there are plenty of other options out there.

https://www.amazon.com/power-supply-units/b?node=12731351

No clue about the case, but basically, they all fit mATX motherboards.

Something like this

https://www.amazon.com/riotoro-eni...MG2EU/product/

https://www.amazon.com/power-supply-unit...51613/product/

BTW, that GPU and motherboard look way overpriced for what you actually get. Ask some guys on Reddit to recommend something with better value.

Regarding the CPU choice, an Intel chip gives you way more upgrade paths later once Zen 3 hits, whereas going with a 9600KF puts you in a complete dead end.
I'd look into Intel or maybe a 10600K.

If you can hold out, the new i5 10600K is the better call since you get Hyperthreading. Just no clue when it’ll actually hit the shelves here in the States or what the markup will be. Over there, it's pushing $300, which feels like a rip-off.

Regarding cooling, it mostly comes down to your case. If you pick a decent chassis—meaning enough clearance above the CPU (160mm for the NH-D14)—then air cooling is the way to go. You get performance comparable to mid/high-range AIO coolers for less money, with less noise and way more reliability.

Somehow, the Center for the Future actually has the NH-D14 in stock, even though they don't really make them anymore. It's cheaper than the NH-D15 and pretty much the same thing.
I’m running an NH-D14 on an overclocked i7 920 (which pulls 130W stock) and it’s solid. Easy install, quiet, and temps stay around 80-83C at ~950rpm while pulling over 300W from the wall in a 27C room—and that's with old thermal paste. Just don't buy ridiculously tall RAM. I have some old Corsair Vengeance that’s super high profile, so I had to rotate the CPU cooler so the fans blow upward. It works, but ideally, they should blow toward the rear.

That's a comparison against a very good liquid cooler. In other tests, Noctua actually performs even better.

By the way, if you're strictly sticking to 2D work, you could honestly get away with an Intel i3 9100 (just not the f version). It’s a bit cheaper and the integrated graphics aren't great, plus it lacks HyperThreading—unlike that 3400G which gives you 4 cores and 8 threads—but for basic 2D CAD? None of that actually matters.

The real bottlenecks are going to be your SSD and your RAM. 16GB should cut it, but I’d personally grab a motherboard like the one I linked—something with 4 slots—just so you have the option to toss in another 2x8GB later if things get heavy.

I'm not sure exactly how much of the load falls on the CPU versus the GPU, but if you ask me, AutoCAD relies mostly on single-core performance. This processor is decent enough—just an old quad-core i7 from a few years back paired with a stronger graphics card.
For 2D CAD? It’ll be fine. That's a light workload for a processor like this.

You don't need a beefy GPU for AutoCAD. Honestly, it shouldn't even touch the budget—you should be able to save that cash. A decent integrated chip will handle it just fine.

CPU recommendation:

https://www.nabava.net/procesori/amd...ijena-89984231

RAM (all that matters is getting 2x8GB sticks with high clock speeds, since there isn't much of a price gap for slower ones anyway).

SSD (Go with 500GB if you can, but 250GB works if you're trying to shave off a few bucks).

https://www.nabava.net/ssd-disk/ssd-...nvme-105090891
Motherboard:
https://www.nabava.net/maticne-ploce...-ddr4-92851951

Let me know what kind of power supply you've got. You can easily find a solid one for around $300-$167.

Zen 3?
Just in time for me to build a new rig next year... been waiting 3 or 4 years already.

Is the new DLSS going to be locked to the latest cards?

BTW, I feel like we're all just waiting on the next big Nvidia release because AMD is dumping all their R&D and manufacturing muscle into consoles and optimizing raytracing for them. When they finally drop something, it’ll probably just be tech that mirrors what’s already in a PlayStation or Xbox.

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From a practical standpoint, you'll probably just end up swapping out the GPU in a few years when the heavy hitters come out anyway. That’s way easier and actually worth the money.
The 3700 x is solid for the Future.

Sam Rodriguez55 said:I get it, makes sense. Thanks for the input. Honestly, I don't think spending more money guarantees the same kind of longevity it did five years ago. But whatever, I guess that's just how the market is right now.

What about an Intel + Geforce combo?

This build is strictly for gaming. Upgradability isn't really my thing. Feels like I'm putting a brand new transmission into a total junker, so I'm not exactly feeling the hype. Don't crucify me here. Gaming is a hobby, and with hobbies, you don't always run the numbers on the ROI.

Plus, this rig won't even be running xls, let alone Photoshop or anything like that. I have a laptop for that.

I disagree on the whole longevity guarantee thing.
The last time we saw a massive leap in performance was back with the Intel Sandy Bridge architecture. Those i7 and i5 chips from back then (2011) are still usable today. Everything after that was stuck at quad-core until Ryzen showed up.

Now you can grab 6-core or even 8-core processors in these price brackets, and whether you pick a Ryzen 5 3600 or a 3700 x, you're set for a long time.

Intel doesn't really have anything worth buying right now. The only thing that might make sense is the 10600K, which is just hitting the market, but who knows when there will actually be enough stock to see decent prices. If you're buying a PC right now rather than waiting a few months, stick to what's here (3600 or 3700 x).

As for the GPU, the specific combo (Intel/Nvidia/AMD) doesn't matter that much. The guys recommended this one because it's the best bang for your buck. I'm not sure if a beefier Geforce would even be worth it if you go with the Ryzen 5 3600.

Regarding upgrades... that's more like dropping a bigger engine into a car that already runs great and was built to handle the power. That said, you probably won't need an upgrade for a while with either the 3600 or the 3700 x. Personally, I'd grab the 3600—better value for the money—especially since the next generation is going to be a huge jump in performance.