You started a thread that has nothing to do with PDFs. A few weeks ago, you opened another one that didn't fit under recreation either, complaining about the local transit authority, and everyone explained why it didn't belong. Normally, you would've been banned by now, but since I'm a pretty chill moderator, I'll just give you a friendly heads-up for next time.
Susan James said:What do you mean by overcrowding at the school? Do they have so many kids enrolling that they suggest deferrals for those on the edge of the age cutoff? 😕 So they'll just show up next year when there might be even more applicants? Or did they already defer 14 students last year, so now they need to defer another 14 just to balance the numbers? 😂
A parent who "insists" usually ends up exaggerating the situation, which isn't something you can really verify during a quick 15-minute screening (I sometimes wonder why these assessments aren't longer or more thorough...) Trying to point them toward a second opinion is mostly a lost cause anyway. By the time a child goes in for an assessment in April or May, by the time they actually get an appointment at a clinic, they're already finishing the first semester or even the whole first grade. So, yeah, it's a bit of a mess. 🤷 And for what it's worth, preschool opinions still don't seem to carry much weight. Since they're under orders from the School District to clear spots for new enrollments, they often skip over certain issues, meaning kids get enrolled without any deferral. In my opinion, that’s actually a bigger problem than the kids who actually do get their schooling delayed.
How did he finish without any trouble if he ended the year with anything less than a 4.0? 😕 Just one B on a report card sends a message that maybe he should have been deferred, and anything more than that suggests you've set him up for failure. 😬 🐔
Ryan Stewart8 said:nimblelynx7, please, just stop talking nonsense. We actually ran into each other during a similar debate once before, and it turned out those "arguments" of yours were totally baseless then, just like they are now. It’s not like anyone is attacking professionalism or anything—if there even is any—we’re just calling out this absolutely insane way things are being handled.
Daniel Gomez10, I guess the reality is that it depends a lot on who’s doing the evaluating and how big of a deal they personally make out of what they see. But at the same time, in both instances, they definitely spotted something. As for whether it’s truly critical or a massive headache for the school district, I probably shouldn't judge since I don't have all the details. The whole issue with Andrew Wright2's situation is that it looks like they decided to delay development for a child who is perfectly on track based on nothing more than a whim and a single sentence, and yet everyone just went along with it.
I wasn't actually talking about the Socialite's situation; I was reacting to several people here saying how hard it is to get a delay without a massive reason. In my experience, that hasn't been true at all—they offer delays even when they aren't really needed. Plus, hearing stories from other parents and seeing certain enrollments here, it seems the same.
They didn't find anything. They were probably just grasping at straws. My senior finished first grade without any issues; he had a few grades that weren't straight A's, but he was one of the best behaved kids in class (just super quiet, calm, and listens well). I'm pretty sure things will be just as smooth with my junior.
urbantinker8 said:Well, I probably wouldn't go quite that far as to say it's being forced upon parents😁, though I will say it’s definitely (too) easy to get . I suppose it's true, really, since everything depends on such a wide range of variables: actual developmental struggles—though, honestly, it seems like nowadays practically everything gets labeled as an attention disorder, fine motor issues, speech delays, and so on🙄, I guess—plus things like where a kid falls on the birth date cutoff, how much pressure there is on a specific local elementary school, and even just which doctor, pediatrician, or specialist you happen to run into... BUT, in the last few years, I feel like parental insistence has become a huge factor too, and experts seem to be pushing back against those requests less and less than they used to .
Come on, don't tell me it wasn't pushed on us. I know for a fact I felt that pressure 🤷 we actually had to fight just to make sure we *didn't* get an extension.
I’m not going to weigh in on that specific drama, but I see people saying it’s impossible to get a school deferral here in Chicago. My experience with the district my kids are in has been the exact opposite.
Last year, my oldest was starting kindergarten. He turned 7 back in September. He had all his preschool skills down—actually, way more than that. He breezed through the school interview, but the counselor noticed during their 15-minute chat that he gets distracted easily, so she suggested we consider holding him back for a year. She wanted to send him for psychological testing first just to be sure. I was honestly shocked at the idea of my kid starting first grade at 8 years old. It didn't even cross my mind that deferring would be an option, so I told her straight up: no way. After thinking about it for a bit, he decided he wouldn't even bother with the testing "since he’d pass anyway," and figured he'd just mature a bit by September.
This year it's my youngest's turn. He's a March baby, so he'll be 6.5 in September. He’s got all the basics covered too—even more than his big brother (he can already read, write, and count to 100). He’s totally stoked about starting school. Given his birthday and what happened last year, I was certain they'd push for a deferral again. He passed the school interview, even though he struggled a little with spatial awareness, which isn't really his thing. The meeting was just Dad, the school psychologist, and the counselor. The psychologist said he was ready to go, but the counselor suggested holding him back because of his fine motor skills (which his preschool teacher actually praised, by the way). They basically left the ball in our court to decide. Of course, Dad jumped in immediately and said he's enrolling him.
So, from what I've seen, getting a deferral isn't hard at all. If anything, it feels like they try to push it on parents.🤷
Thought I’d pop in here too, even if it’s a shame about the photos. I’ve actually been on a lighter routine for over six months now (just doing 21 Day Fix maybe three times a week, plus a little running here and there) with plenty of breaks. But I’ve started swimming a lot lately, which is a new one for me.
My little guy has been pulling straight A's lately, with just two B's in Art Forum (plus three more A's). He’s always doodling something, he just loves to draw. I actually knew exactly why he missed out on that perfect score, and his teacher confirmed it during parent-teacher conferences—he didn't follow the instructions, he did his own thing instead. Instead of using a solid background, he decided to add polka dots because he thought it looked better.😁 He even proudly told his teacher while handing in the assignment that he'd added a little extra decoration.😁
Susan Martin4 said:I’ve been thinking about the whole Santa Claus thing versus religious lessons lately... what did your parents tell you about who actually puts the gifts under the tree?
In my house, we were taught it was little Jesus bringing the gifts. We always had a tree by the balcony doors, and I used to leave them cracked open just a bit—though my parents always made sure they were shut tight, of course, because 🤣—just so he could slip the presents in. Santa Claus would show up with gifts at all those Christmas parties my dad used to host for his company, so I never really felt confused about any of the 🤷
My family isn't exactly devout, though I did attend religious education classes growing up. I’m actually planning on telling my little one that little Jesus is the one leaving gifts under the tree next to the Nativity scene. I have a feeling he'll be the only kid in town hearing that version. Am I being too naive? 🤦
It won't work. At my dad's place—he's a pretty devout guy, based on how everyone talks about this stuff here—it's always a different vibe. 😁At my place, little Jesus brings the gifts, but over at my house, it's all about Santa Claus. I just tell them they're all part of the same system and work together. 😁
rowdypanther12 said:Back when my little one was in school, they had this big debate about who actually brings the presents. I was honestly crying laughing when she told me about it 😂 Basically, she eventually just lost it and told the whole class that it doesn't even matter who does it. She said someone might believe it's Santa Claus, someone else thinks it's Jesus, some think it's just Mom and Dad, and others might even think it's a frog or a giraffe—as long as the gifts actually show up! 😂
Sarah Hall53 said:So, if one kid starts asking questions, does that mean we have to go ahead and shatter the magic for twenty other kids too? And look, let’s be honest—when you're seven years old, there's a massive difference between some kid in the back of the classroom telling you, "Hey, there is no Santa Claus, your parents just buy the presents," versus having your teacher or a school official tell you the same thing. You can brush off a classmate without a second thought, but when it comes to the adults in charge? At that age, you pretty much just take their word for it.
By the time you're seven, you've pretty much figured out the whole Santa thing on your own. At that point, you decide for yourself whether you want to keep playing along or not, regardless of who's talking to you.
I agree that a teacher shouldn't just bring it up out of nowhere, but what are they supposed to do if the kids actually ask? Just tell them to go ask their parents? We still don't even know if the teacher decided to bring this up herself or if a student cornered her with questions.
I'm curious how this even started? Did some kid ask her about Santa Claus, or did she just bring it up out of nowhere?
Honestly, kids start questioning things way before they turn two—not just about themselves, but about other kids and adults too. And what if another adult tells them the truth? Is that actually forbidden? Is it something that should strictly be left to parents to handle? Do we just have to stay silent to make sure nobody's childhood gets ruined? A classmate told my first grader that parents buy all the gifts and that there's no such thing as Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. My son just looked at me and said he didn't believe him.😁
Also, I wanted to ask those of you who are devout Catholics—how do you explain Christmas presents if it's not the Baby Jesus bringing them? Or do you guys skip the gifts entirely?
It’ll be there during enrollment, but they don't make a big deal out of it if someone changes their mind right when school starts. At least that was how it worked in my hometown.
@8472 I don't think there's anything wrong with being intimate with your spouse once you have kids. But honestly, I feel like sex should always be about more than just pleasure—it should be about building a family. 😬