Posts by Sean Wright5

Terry Fisher49 said:just like how we feel about you guys.
Personally, I actually quite enjoyed it!
And sure, we’re both IDIOTS and DRUNKS!!🤷

Let's be honest here—the messages from both sides were pretty pathetic. It was basically: "Those unknown people are bound to drop some profound message again, so let's just whip something up to counter them. It doesn't even matter what it says, as long as there's a rhyme at the end."
A middle schooler could have come up with better inspiration.

cosmicharbor2 said:Respect to both sides today; any kind of excitement is welcome given how stagnant our local scene has become. But let’s be real: when the Armada is at full strength, the demons don't stand a chance. I know the usual crowd will start their predictable routine again—kissing up to the Armada and the boys—but I’m staying neutral here. Honestly, I couldn't care less about either group. That’s just my take. For me, the Armada remains a pillar of this scene regardless of whatever crises they stumble through. After all, we and the Tovar gang have been trading the top two spots for the last decade. 😁 In any given scenario, congratulations are due to both sides. I realize the demons might take offense, but frankly, that’s just my subjective take on the matter. That said, I have to admit it’s refreshing to see the demons adding such flair to our local music scene. Honestly, it wouldn't be the worst thing if we had a few more groups around here operating with their level of artistry. As for today's performance? A massive thumbs down from me to both Armadi and the demons. 👍 To wrap things up, I can only express my hope that we see more matchups like this one—regardless of which side ends up claiming the win or taking the loss. 😍

Were you actually at the match? Please, if you were, give me an unbiased take on the atmosphere—the crowd energy, the choreography, all of it.

Thank you in advance.

Jason Reyes72 As stated by:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1334/...11fbbedb7e.jpg
🙂

A truly wonderful message regarding the upcoming game.
Saturday is creeping up on us. You can spend your time scrolling through all these different opinions and arguments online if you like, but I’m fairly certain we’ll all end up sitting in the exact same bleachers, cheering as a single, unified front for California.
Kudos to the guys from Brajda and Pićan, but this time the call goes out to the rest of the cadet corps who hold California close to their hearts. We are stronger together.

Greetings.

Edward Hernandez332 said:Oh, really? Do you actually follow them or something? Why don't you just DM me a few photos of their recent displays and choreography? Purely out of curiosity, of course.
edit: found them...

In my humble estimation, this remains one of the most aesthetically pleasing visual displays/choreographies ever staged:

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7974/17721798.jpg

I cannot recall if the Armada has ever attempted to create such patterns on canvas without using nylon sheets.

Edward Hernandez332 said:and Devils 🤣
Actually, it's common knowledge that the current Red Sox crowd consists mostly of local haters from Cleveland and transplants from the South who lack the nerve to be true Black Knights, so they’ve taken offense to all the recent graffiti by The Rockettes and decided to stir the pot.

The Red Sox are a legitimate group; their club is fighting just to stay in the third division, yet the guys are still active—showing up for almost every away game, organizing choreographies, setting off pyrotechnics...
I am convinced that if Cleveland City FC were playing in the major leagues and seeing real success (similar to Seattle Sounders FC), the Red Sox would be serious competition for The Rockettes in every single fan segment.

As an aside, The Rockettes didn't even take 9/11 seriously until five years ago, which has come back to haunt them more than once—both figuratively and literally—in the recent history of the American supporter scene.

Best regards.

Austin Watson38 said:Are you seriously giving credit to those Gypsies? They’ve been milking that angle for ages.

Give credit to the demons while you're at it! They've been running their own version of that melody for about 15 years now.

Kenneth Campbell64 said:The tension finally snapped regarding the "Millwall" crowd 🤣 ; the veteran members of the fan club will understand the subtext here. To be blunt, this supposed "friendship" was essentially coerced by the personal connections of a few specific individuals... it was the first major clash between the fan club and the demons following that friendly match involving General Dynamics and Cleveland.
There were other instances of hanging out with the fan club prior to the local sports club match that year—just us walking through town wearing our California jerseys and scarves, accompanied by the fan club, followed by some drinks in the neighborhood, and eventually heading over to the neighborhood where Bear and his crew were waiting. 🤣☕
Mike Tyson and the bank certainly remember those times. ☕

It wasn't some romantic fallout during the local team game when the fan club, led by the legendary Millwall, teamed up with the hooligans to target the local group.
The guys were just in a foul mood after losing the game 3-1 and decided they wanted payback. Given how things unfolded, I imagine they're feeling quite a bit of regret today.

Lawrence Walker27 said:We need to keep talking about this because a group like that shouldn't even be allowed to exist; such groups only find a foothold in our pathetic domestic scene.

I understand your posts—you always seem to crank up the tension. You're a Cancer, after all, and clearly a highly sentimental creature, which explains why you inject so much melodrama into your narratives.

But let’s settle down for a moment, shall we? Let's bring things back to reality and admit that your group also lost a (minor) banner. Fortunately for you, it wasn't old enough to have seen many games or caught any flashes from the era when people actually bothered to take photos (especially during away matches!), so very few people even know it exists—including you, considering you were just a toddler back then.

If you possess even a shred of wisdom, you'll realize there is no dignity in gloating over someone else's misfortune. After all, you never know when you might face a catastrophe as devastating as losing a banner.

Now, please, spare yourself the trouble of reading my commentary regarding your group at yesterday's game; I wouldn't want to jeopardize your fragile mental state.

The bulk of the Armadin crew—the original, older contingent of about a hundred—didn't even show up at the stadium until the 15th minute. Their cheering was abysmal, mostly consisting of insults directed at the locals. More than half of the Seattle supporters were nothing more than wide-eyed 15-year-olds who weren't even watching the football or their club; they spent the entire time staring at the section where DP92 was sitting (presumably impressed), and their facial expressions—along with everyone else in the visiting section—around the 60th minute were simply priceless.
For the better part of the season, this group had been hyping themselves up for this away trip, and in my humble estimation, they failed to deliver.

It is true that the Navy is the third largest group in the US, but that isn't a testament to their strength; rather, it serves as proof of how weak the American supporter scene truly is.
Fortunately, some new kids have emerged on the scene who possess all the necessary qualities for a very bright future.

Best regards.

Keith Jones71 said:The Armada from Rijeka—those little and local types—were snatched when someone broke into the room ten years ago. A break-in and a theft, plain and simple. In my view, the police should have been called immediately to pursue criminal charges. This isn't about being a fan; it’s pure criminality. A significant amount was taken back then, and while most of it was returned after a single phone call, clearly not everything was. Pićan is just some tiny village in Istria. The group isn't anything special, so that banner doesn't hold much weight for me, but a banner is a banner, and it was taken through "legitimate" means. Brajda, huh? Give me a break.

Welcome to the club of the "lost"!!
Please, do enlighten those who haven't experienced the sensation of losing a small percussion banner!!
Are you planning to shut the group down entirely? Or will you continue to carry nothing but the large percussion banner?

Kenneth Campbell64 said:The Armada's little message... roughly 150 fans from San Diego, apparently. Well, look out, DEMONS—it was an Armada 4-0 blowout 🙏

If he actually knew what DP92’s message said today, he would realize the score wasn't 4-0; rather, a group of San Diego supporters joined forces with the Demons to build that Istrian victory!

Following today's match, I have concluded that the Armada is definitely not the third largest fan group in America!!!

Best regards.

Drew Perez said:Am I missing something here, or are there just no photos from the Cleveland vs. Holy City game?

There isn't much to see in those pictures anyway. You couldn't even find 100 people in the stands—the energy was nonexistent. Truly pathetic cheering...

Lawrence Walker27 said:Since when did you start attending games? How many times have our supporter groups clashed during national matches... what exactly were you expecting, given that those brave demons spit on girls...

A little while before you. Not once. You might want to coordinate with your own brain before you attempt to claim those demons were fighting girls, spitting on them, or whatever other fantasy you've conjured up.

Lawrence Walker27 said:Unlike you guys, the Navy isn't just one guy; I'm not entirely sure what happened there, but I know the boys were even worse.

Haha, fine. By all means, continue living in blissful ignorance. However, I am certain you are aware that the aforementioned M. wanted to settle scores with his (your) "friends" after that foaming-at-the-mouth incident, specifically because they didn't jump in to back him up.

Lawrence Walker27 said:I wasn't at the Walmart, but I know the group waiting for you had already cleared out, and those who stayed certainly weren't running even if they were outnumbered.

There were twice as many.

I promise to try and ignore the sheer absurdity that permeates your posts next time.

Lawrence Walker27 said:I find it embarrassing that you even bring up the national team game in Cleveland, considering how you lot always bolt out fifteen minutes early. We once cut out fifteen minutes ahead of schedule ourselves and headed east, just as your van came flying past us in a total panic. They didn't even send Aziz; he was stuck over on the east side because, at that moment, he probably wasn't allowed on the west side.

Hold on a second, I’m not following your logic: "...you always bolt out fifteen minutes early"??
Why on earth would anyone be running away from anyone else during a national team match?? Are you suggesting you all headed east specifically to hunt down the demons at the stadium??

Drew Hernandez8 said:haha, brilliant! In the stands, everyone can insult anyone else's mother and scream slogans about hating rivals, but the moment someone posts the truth about this group on the forum, it’s instant censorship. My post was deleted, my profile wiped. Likely because I lean left!

WHITE SUPREMACIST MOVEMENT!

stop the repression against fans on this forum!!!!!!!!!!!

if you all are allowed to complain about DJ and her cronies, then I am certainly allowed to protest the deletion of a post where I insulted no one—in fact, I simply presented concrete facts:
- The Navy, alongside the Rockefeller Center Ultras and the BBBs, actually predates the Boys
- The Navy glorifies fascism out of sheer insecurity, perhaps because they've started believing they're just like those old-school communists

Look, guys, I used to be a member of the Navy myself, but once I saw how certain people were being driven out of the stands, I walked away from the West Side and tore up my membership card.

The objective of my post was to understand why the Navy's West Side section glorifies fascism in the first place.

Whatever, it's clearly futile to engage with you lot; you're worse than DJ.

Well, you answered your own question: "the Navy glorifies fascism out of sheer insecurity, perhaps because they've started believing they're just like those old-school communists."

I felt sorry for the chocolatey Navy too; they actually used to be the premier squad for a while. It's hard to imagine how much larger the Navy would have been if they had recruited even half of Pehlin into their ranks, alongside the Rockefeller Center Ultras and the BBBs.

Andrew White32 said:It’s a strange crowd, but I dig it. Cheers, colleague, you make some valid points, but look at it this way: let some time pass first so we can see how things actually evolve in the long run. Once that happens, the criticism will die down. Right now, I’m looking at photos of the demons from San Diego—every other shot features someone with a mullet. You have some kid in the stands arguing with a wire, and these guys snap a photo and include it in their match reports. If you don't follow my drift, that feels a bit amateurish, like they're forcing a narrative just to have something to show. Not to mention zooming in on the heavier, tattooed members of the group just to project an image of having "tough guys" or big guys in the ranks—usually focusing on a bald head if possible—to create that specific vibe. You understand, right? Internet propaganda is quite the phenomenon. 👍

Well, I gave up on this a long time ago, but I simply must respond to this entry by the esteemed commentator Andrew White32...
Haha, what absolute nonsense you've cooked up in this post. 🤣 So, the DP92 shirt crowd is posting pictures of thugs and heavies online just to intimidate the fleet and other fans?! 🤣 You are a truly fascinating creature and certainly know how to get a laugh, but please, stop occupying your mind with such trivialities (consider this friendly advice).

Fine, if nothing else, I am glad you've started paying attention to the output of certain wannabe demon fans who lack any actual history and spend their promotional efforts wandering through fields with lambs; surely the boys from the West Side weren't filming the "lifestyle" DVD just for (personal) promotion!

My deepest apologies if I have been arrogant once again.

Regards.

Andrew White32 said:Of course it doesn't mean that; I never claimed it did. But even now, people are setting off flares and organizing choreographies, so 🤷 what exactly is your point? Besides, the displays and flare shows put on by the armada are nothing more than an unattainable dream for your group. I am not saying this to be provocative, just stating a reality..

This argument might hold weight if the San Francisco club had won even half as many titles as the big names in the league, but unfortunately, the club has spent far more time fighting relegation than chasing trophies—let alone actually competing for the championship or even a top-four finish..
I used the term "wannabe" because over the last few years, certain things feel forced, done purely for self-promotion—ranging from your first skirmish against Janez to those instances where fans were leaning over the fences at the Osijek match. But fine, let it go; everyone has their own way of trying to prove themselves. For some, the actual love for the club has taken a backseat. Now, as long as there’s "ultra" or "24/7" printed on a single banner, a couple of street fights later, and suddenly they're considered one of the top three groups in America. To some, maybe. To me? Not even close.

Look, my friend, if your group had endured everything DP92 has gone through over the last decade or so, you wouldn't be sitting here talking with such misplaced confidence. No offense intended.

Love for the club, huh?! The armada is a group defined by extreme fluctuations in membership; essentially, its size depends entirely on how well the team is performing on the field. To preempt any inevitable backlash from the keyboard warriors, let me clarify: my comment pertains to the recent history of American fan culture (post-2001), not back in '97 when you guys were actually worthy of admiration.

Lawrence Walker27 said:Your group has truly been at the top of our scene over the last few years, but my memory isn't so short that I’ve forgotten those shameful displays. There was even a time you guys were left without a banner, which in the supporter world is basically a death sentence for a group's reputation. I remember back when the national handball team played in San Francisco; a few Hell members from the first squad were right there with us. They were actually debating who they should support now that California had been relegated from the league—some were leaning toward Cleveland, but they couldn't reach a consensus. When I started attending games back in 1996, the Hell were nothing more than a pathetic little group of kids under twelve. That year, about 200 Hell members showed up to Miami for a match that decided whether California or Cleveland would stay in the league. It started when one of our guys slapped two Hell members right in front of the East side crowd. Then, when the Navy stormed the pitch, they climbed onto the railings where the Hell were sitting just to shout "Hail Armada!" Back in '96 and '97, the Navy used to roam around San Diego, clashing with the police and stadium security, and the Hell were just standing there, absolutely fascinated. By 2000, photos from those San Diego riots had spread across all of America. The Navy stormed the field, knocked out a few security guards, and snatched a banner or two from the Hell, yet those guys remained as calm as babies. Over the last six or seven years, we've realized the Hell have actually been targeting us. During one basketball game, while Mirza—that boxer from San Diego—was busy trying to settle a dispute between the Navy and the guards, the Hell went and smashed the glass on a bus in the parking lot. In 2004, I found myself defending against about a dozen Hell members using nothing but a chair. Another time, we spent hours in a downtown cafe, grabbed two scarves belonging to the Hell, and tossed them on the floor right in the middle of San Diego. Once again, the Hell were nowhere to be seen.

The greatest embarrassment for Hell was back in 2006, when they fled from our group of thirteen, leaving only eleven behind. Among those thirteen "tough guys" were Đo_ _, who was just 12 at the time; Ri_ _ at 13; Kol _ _ also 13; Ki_ _ at 17; and mali Bo_ _ at 17. There were three older ones over 20—Be _ _ at 26, Čv_ _ at 22, and L_ _ at 23, who actually stayed. What makes it even more pathetic is how you portrayed it as a victory online. In reality, thirteen kids chased you into a diner, and once you saw the first police cruiser just five meters away, you made a "brave" exit and took a few swings at the only one left standing. There is more to tell, but I’ll save my biggest critique for our last encounter. We ended up getting beaten despite having the numbers advantage—it looked like roughly 40 of us against 30 of yours (and to be fair, many of ours were just kids; the oldest was Ž_ _ at 24). Word on the street is that security guards were with you that day, but you're the one who knows if that's true.

Allow me to offer my own brief observations regarding your comment...
It isn’t exactly standard practice in the supporter scene to just shut down an entire group like that. Have a little patience, and perhaps you'll eventually grasp the point I'm making here.
Everything you wrote is more or less accurate, with the exception of 2004 and that specific encounter on the forum that finally forced the Navy to take dp92 seriously. There were other run-ins too—take that friendly match back in 2003 in San Diego, for instance, where a certain legendary Navy guy completely lost his nerve (despite all his bravado). 🙂...and so on.
During our last encounter, it wasn't just that there was zero security presence on the dp92 side; nobody actually expected you guys to show up at Monte Zara in the first place. The home crowd's reaction was entirely spontaneous and, unfortunately, a bit too brutal.
You neglected to mention yet another one of your business ventures: Walmart!
The reality is quite simple: five or more years ago, the Demons couldn't have held a candle to the Navy. They weren't even in the same league. However, looking at the landscape today, the situation has shifted significantly. If you ask me, the Navy currently lacks the actual capacity to go toe-to-toe with dp92 on the streets.
I might be biased, but you’d have to see it with your own eyes to truly understand.

Best regards.

Samuel Evans86 said:Give me some actual arguments. Thanks.

Your approach to "arguments" is certainly unique... fine, whatever. Regarding attendance, the numbers are roughly comparable, though perhaps aesthetics—like the stadium's look or the volume of pyrotechnics—carry more weight. It might be a bit silly to point out that PU is further from NYC 62 miles by about 124 miles in both directions than Rijeka is, but the real deciding factor is the atmosphere. Based on what many local hardcore fans are saying, the chanting coming from the south side of Central Park during the Istra-Dinamo match was significantly superior.

Regards.

p.s. I forgot that Indianapolis played in Newark; Sean Wright5 offers his sincerest apologies for the oversight.

A decent display from the Rijeka crowd, but if you ask me, the Demons put on a much better show back at Central Park. It remains to be seen how Cohort will carry themselves once they hit NYC. The scene feels more intense and compelling this season than it did last year.

Regards.

It is about time the fleet started showing some backbone in these so-called minor matchups. Based on the photos, the presentation looked decent enough; one can only hope the energy from the stands actually matched the aesthetic. :klap: