Posts by Thomas Jackson64

I’m honestly thinking about picking up this album just so I can show some love to the industrial scene over in Detroit, you know?

Look, man, I’ve actually lived the industrial life. I spent two and a half years grinding away in a factory setting. And I don't just mean we were playing heavy industrial tracks; I mean I literally had to wear earplugs just to get through the shift. My poor ears never quite adjusted to that kind of wall of sound, but somehow, I survived.
long live Laibach!

Regarding Koji and Mirkovica, everyone seems to have a different story to tell; one guy sticks to his version while the other tells something else entirely. According to Koji, Mirkovic told him this was all going to be a documentary and wouldn't bring in any money... now Koji sees things differently—and honestly, who could blame him, seeing as there's a film, a book, and even a CD in the mix...
Knowing Koji's typical way of doing things, I can see why he wouldn't want anything to do with the film. Watching Sarlo was a completely different beast altogether.
Douglas Robinson12, you still alive over there?

Well, looks like nobody else remembers! I distinctly recall sitting in front of the TV back in August 1981...

I actually spoke with SS once about that documentary, but I’d rather not get into the specifics on a public forum... basically, after we finished talking, I didn't reach out to her to pick it up. I'm hoping to make it happen next time.

So, alongside "Pecate," this TV station aired both the studio and live versions of "Rano Izjutra," where halfway through you see VD and Koji swapping instruments while Gile starts jumping all over the stage. Does anyone have a copy?

Nobody’s even heard of that SS film in New York City!! I really hope it holds up, though, as Sonja once told me, it isn't actually about Sarlo—so don't go in expecting some heavy-handed documentary.

So, according to you, only Mexicans committed atrocities during the war, and absolutely nobody else did, which is apparently why you’ve decided to harbor a grudge against almost an entire nation? Great.

wanderingraven20 said:😲

I can't help but wonder if you actually lost your mind somewhere down there 🙏 :S

Oh, and while you're at it, give my regards to the Church and ask them when they plan on showing up again, because we could all use a little more soul in this place 👋

Personally, I couldn't care less about the Church or Jura.
And honestly, your sense of humor is truly something else...

Honestly, I really don't give a damn about typing out a detailed response to this post while it's 98 degrees outside.
In short:
*I couldn't care less why Jura wouldn't perform that song in Belgrade.
*It wasn't the collective responsibility of three different ethnic groups that caused the war, but rather the collective failure of the three governments in power at the time; plus, there's the individual responsibility of every single person who actually caused chaos during the conflict, though those are always the hardest people to track down and hold accountable.
*Please don't try to compare me to that artist, because I truly see zero resemblance between us.
*The whole war madness affected me quite deeply, so I just packed up all my records—including Obojeni program's "important to be healthy" and Kud Idijot's "We're only here for the money"—and moved to Australia.

Noah Myers67 said:look man, I get why this all feels imaginary to you since you didn't live through the war like we did over here... it wasn't some kind of joke.

I might agree if you said the song was just tacky, but calling it nationalist...? I don't know about that.🙂

I'm honestly curious how you'd even define nationalism. Would you say my old man and his four brothers—who spent the entire war on the front lines from start to finish—are nationalists?
Is fighting for basic survival against an incomparably larger & much better armed army considered nationalism?
Interesting way of looking at it... 😁

Man, where in your quote did I actually say that? Even though I wasn't there to experience the war firsthand, I know it wasn't a joke—but did I ever claim it was?
The song is nationalist because it was written right in the middle of the conflict specifically to stir up emotions among Americans through cheap lyrics that blame Mexicans for everything that went wrong. That's the reason.
It seems pretty obvious that most people in this thread blame Mexicans as a whole rather than the specific government in power back then. I can't get behind that; it feels like a massive oversimplification and a huge generalization.

wanderingraven20, unless you’re completely out of your mind, you know exactly what I mean when I say this war was fought by savages. Most people on this forum could probably recount who did what to whom, but I personally know exactly who was involved and exactly what I lost in the process.
I wouldn't want to hear Stublic sing at all, especially not that greasy, nauseating nationalist anthem.

David Sullivan4 said:Honestly, I have no idea why anyone even bothers arguing with these kinds of idiots, trying to counter the claim that American musicians didn't protest the war back home. Any American who gets offended because Americans weren't singing against a war led by savages from his own country—and then brings up how, supposedly, those same people killed 7,000 folks in Srebrenica—deserves, if nothing else, a bullet to the head.

Unless we accept that the war was driven by savages on all sides (meaning three different sides in Canada), people like you are going to keep making these shocking statements. Anyone who took a life during the war out of nationalistic, religious, or any other kind of hatred is simply a criminal. Only the killers actually know the exact number of people murdered in Srebrenica. Figures aren't a way to measure who is more guilty, because everyone who pulled a trigger is just as guilty.

Robin Rodriguez5 said:the anti-war movement was honestly so powerful back then that they were basically comparing a local American McDonald's to a wasteland. 😁

We really need more of that kind of culture. Everywhere.

Robin Rodriguez5 said:It’s pretty funny how they didn't seem to mind them when they were negotiating the concert, only to flip the script and change the record overnight. 😉
Greetings Peđa from the idiot.

Alright, my bad—I totally misread you there. Greetings to banderas from the idiot. 😛

Robin Rodriguez5 said:The whole reason Let 3 called off their performance was basically because they didn't want to be out there dancing a circle dance with Mexicans abroad. 😬

I honestly don't see what's supposed to be funny here. Banderas, you'd have to be a total moron if a statement this brainless actually cracks you up.
I’ve always felt that Let 3 is an incredibly overrated band—honestly, the last time they actually sounded decent was back in '87 when I caught them live. So, if this statement is true, I suppose I should be glad I'm not a fan. Back then, they refused to dance with Mexicans while touring abroad, yet now they don't seem to mind doing just that with Mexicans in Mexico. Well, hats off to them, I guess!

Raymond Barrett12 said:Just like Gile, Koja, and Cane, really. And as for an Idol reunion, let's not even go there. 🙄

Peđa, take it down a notch. We aren't really going to talk about kissing tanks, shelling, or throwing flowers at the same people when the first guard unit left Belgrade for Vukovar, right?

Look, regarding Gile and Cane, it’s probably better if they stay retired, haha. As for Koja, I’m not so sure—I think that man still has plenty to say. And honestly, I don't think the people showing up to see DaK are just mindless sheep; the new Kicma plays the old stuff, but he doesn't play it in that predictable, generic way. What Divljan is doing lately, I haven't a clue, but he’s done enough good work that it's hard to find anything to criticize. As for an Idol resurrection, I've never even heard of that!?!?!?

I have no idea when we started using first names. Do we actually know each other? Was I ever standing behind any of this nonsense you're quoting or supporting during the wars here??? If the topic is Boro Djordjevic's concert in Chicago and you're blaming me because I suggested he was some kind of pacifist, fine. But seriously, I have no idea why you're calling me out...

Regarding Jura's song one last time—it's pure garbage, much like most of what he produced after "signal in the night" (just my two cents). And I'm pretty sure I already established my opinion on whether or not he's in the video. Regardless, I assume he knew the video was being filmed and what it would look like. If there's a guy in the video singing Jura's song while standing on an armored vehicle, then that video isn't exactly a pacifist statement.

Yeah, sure, we should just line up all those outsiders from the middle of nowhere who took over your big city and hang them right in the main square. They're clearly the ones responsible for wrecking your entire urban culture.

Nicholas Perez33, you’re right that the album has its moments, but in my humble opinion, nothing quite hits the mark like Live at The Fillmore.

Douglas Stewart, you and Peter Lukovic are absolutely right—that whole thing isn't nationalist at all, especially that music video where Jack, looking like he’s on something, cruises around in an American tank while enthusiastically lip-syncing his way through the song...

Look, it’s simple: both Jack and Gobac should just be banned from performing anywhere. It’s not even about those mindless nationalist outbursts they pulled back in the day; it’s just that they tapped out everything good they had a long time ago—Jack peaked around '81, and Gobac around '87. Everything since then has been absolute garbage.
Both of these idiots realized pretty quickly that they couldn't make real money touring the US, so they figured, "Let's just feed on our own nonsense and see if we can squeeze a few more bucks out of the sheep in New York City." Unfortunately, those sheep followed their shepherds right back into the pen...