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Paul Carter5 said:Goodnight 😘 and stop messing around with that spray can, I see you 🙂
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Paul Carter5 said:Goodnight 😘 and stop messing around with that spray can, I see you 🙂
Noah Johnson77 said:Come on, man. Even if that leans more toward an Armada win, if they were playing at a 10 out of 10 level, they’d walk away with the victory easily. Still, the stands are pretty packed.😁
Noah Johnson77 said:What kind of lifestyle is that even supposed to be?
You think you can just play them, but they aren't allowed to play you?
If I were in their shoes, I'd have repainted every single thing they own just to mess with them.
They’re from Vežica—that’s their turf, and if they built it first, then damn it, they got there first.
Now you guys are stuck in this endless cycle of threatening each other and petty little squabbles because you started something that’s never going to end.
Drew Perez said:I usually see the Navy guys hanging out here because they’re the ones constantly downplaying everyone else's hard work while riding on past glory. That's exactly why I poked the bear with that question about the flares... what kind of big group are they supposed to be if they haven't even pulled off a decent flare display at small games in the last four years? It's pathetic. And don't even try comparing them to other groups, especially not the Torcida crowd, so just chill out.
Drew Perez said:Terry Lee3, are you seriously pulling my leg with these photos? You call those flares? There aren't even ten flares in there, let alone twenty.
The only time you guys actually pulled off a flare display was back in the 04/05 season. Since then, you haven't had a single decent flare show at any of the small games.
Mark Wilson72 said:you guys are really stuck in this loop, trying so hard to prove you're better than the hardcore fans or the demons by posting away-game stats and pictures and all that nonsense
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where did you even read that someone from the die-hards claimed we were better than you??
Drew Perez said:So, you're basically admitting that for the last four years, there haven't been any flares at the smaller games (and let's be real, everything except the big rivalry matches counts as a small game)?
Drew Perez said:Alright, so you're basically admitting that for the last four years, there hasn't been any flare action at the smaller games—and since we're talking about everything except the Yankees and the Dodgers, that's pretty much every game.
bluewalker92 said:I’m calling on everyone in the fan club and all the Cleveland supporters: don't fall for this nonsense being peddled here... Regardless of our recent slump, or all this outside propaganda, we’re still the third biggest group (right behind the Wildcats fans and BBB). No matter how much people try to devalue us across the board, we’re at least on equal footing. If you look at away numbers, attendance at small home games, derby turnout, the quality and sheer volume of choreographies and banners, the pyrotechnics, following the national team, or even the originality of our chants—not to mention the way we show up (though I'm not sure where the demons stand there)
We aren't just equal in those areas; in some segments—like the displays, traveling for the national team, and handling the big derbies—we are actually miles ahead!! And those massive wins in specific categories still give us the edge over the Cohort, the demons, and the rest of them!
As for the hooligan stuff, that’s a different conversation. It’s true things have been messy lately; there were times we slackened off and others where we fell short, which the propaganda machines have twisted into "huge victories" for them. But we’ve also had great trips abroad that no one else could pull off, and there have been plenty of scraps and heavy resistance against our biggest rivals. Also, I don't know how you guys follow local news, but it's common knowledge that the Cleveland police do their job better than anyone. If they can be the best at taking down organized crime, trust me, they have the methods to handle hooliganism too.
I also want to say: stop undermining everyone else's hard work. No matter how much you spit on us, you have to admit that some of the people typing here probably bled to improve their own groups just to reach a level where they could even be compared to us. They only got that chance because we hit a rough patch. Plus, a lot of what we carry today was built by the old guard over a long time; even if it's easy to scrape together the same number of people nowadays, they had to start from nothing!
Beyond that, you’ve got to respect every single fan. Fans are people who sacrifice everything for the sake of the club and the group. They don't just do it for fun; they do it out of pure passion, and that kind of devotion to an ideal is what deserves the most respect... And we all know what the life of a fan is like these days—tough and filled with obstacles due to the crackdown and lack of understanding from the authorities...
Patrick Clark21 said:First off—Andrew White32, cut it out. Let the guy have his opinion.
We can pretty much spin anything to make it look true if we want to. It’s all about perception and, honestly, who you personally root for. Take that one guy from the Midwest—he commented on the crowd sizes for the Cohort and the Fleet, saying something like, "Why focus on just one game?" Basically, he’s cherry-picking those ~324 days where the Cohort maybe holds a tiny two-point lead over the Fleet in ultra points (😁 ). If you looked at any slightly longer timeframe, his little spreadsheets and math would fall apart instantly. I think someone already pointed this out, and they're right: it isn't really about the Cohort. It's just that our Fleet is used to something bigger. That doesn't mean they're worse, and it definitely doesn't mean they've been eclipsed. Just look at how groups like the Celtics or the Lakers compare—where do they feel more intense, and which way are they heading when it comes to earning respect?
The Fleet had a better showing at the stadium than the local guys did today, but even they didn't act like they were suddenly better than the city crowd, because they know reality when they see it. Both sides have the capacity for much bigger things. On the other hand, you had those folks from the outskirts screaming last year about how they were currently tougher than the city teams 🙄
Edit: I wrote a massive essay here, but I trimmed it down because I caught myself spiraling into endless philosophy. 🙄 I'm pretty sure my take is closer to the truth, and until someone brings some actual solid arguments against the Cohort, I don't see any reason to change my mind... so there.
Later.
Henry Johnson11 said:Don't sweat it, man. They aren't copying a single thing you guys do. 👍
Austin Watson38 said:I get where you're coming from, and I'm mostly on your side, but hey, who knows what the future holds? You guys have always been a weird bunch, honestly. For example, I once rolled into Cleveland with my crew on game day, and we spent the entire day just killing time. The following year, we showed up early in the morning again. Some of the local fans hanging banners actually invited us over for some drinks and snacks, but while a few people headed out, the rest of us just wandered around town dying of boredom, wanting to leave, and dealing with a massive headache. Then the next year, it was the same thing—wasting the whole morning again. Yeah, definitely weird.😉
Andrew White32 said:But why do we keep dragging up the glory days? The group is still alive, hasn't folded, and we're moving forward. There are tougher times ahead, so quit ruining the thread with this stuff. What am I supposed to say about the guys in the Raiders who are basically falling apart? Sure, you've got groups like the Demons or the Cohort that can hold their own against them once in a while, but that doesn't mean they're actually better. Right, "experts"?
It's a weird crowd, honestly. I dig it. Look, buddy, you make a fair point, but here's my take: let's just wait and see how things play out in the long run before we start the heavy criticism. Right now, I'm looking at these photos from the Demons' trip to Chicago, and it's ridiculous. Every other shot is just some guy in the stands arguing with a stranger, and then they snap it up and put it in the official away game report. If you catch my drift, it feels amateur hour—just forcing things to look like they have something to show. And don't even get me started on how they zoom in on the bigger, tattooed guys just to prove they've got "muscle" in the crew, or how they'll zero in on some bald guy just to fit the vibe. You know what I mean? Internet propaganda is a hell of a drug. 👍
Austin Watson38 said:Anyway, you guys have always seemed like a pretty weird crowd to me.
Drew Perez said:it hasn't just been a thing for the last few years
Drew Perez said:Give me a break. I’m just pointing out how some of you guys acting like you lived through the glory days look down on the Demons and the Cohort. It’s always the same old stuff—"who are they to compare themselves to us?" or "they just wear white sneakers and burn out fast, we're the real ultras, we're the only ones who actually love this club." It's getting tired.