Posts by melloworca6

So, you're telling me an entire classroom has to sit in quarantine for 17 days straight? Are you kidding me? This whole isolation thing is turning into a complete joke.

Keith Barrett2 said:I don't know how things are lately,
but from what I remember, back then friends, family, and stuff like that would step in to help people in isolation with groceries or taking out the trash. Maybe they've loosened up the rules now.

How do you even manage to avoid everyone?
During the lockdown, I was trying so hard not to run into anyone in my building that it actually became a habit.🤣

So even now, I often wait to leave my place until I think the hallway is empty.
And half the time, just as I'm heading down the stairs, someone will pop out of their door or walk into the building right at that exact second. 🤔

Maybe I’m just being overly cautious. 🤣I don't live in a massive high-rise, so you can definitely hear when someone is in the hallway. I pay attention to that. Ever since the pandemic hit—even when I'm just out walking the dog—I hate bumping into people. Since the hallways are narrow, I usually just wait until it's clear before moving.

You can go take out the trash, but you should probably wear gloves and a mask. Honestly, I think there’s a much higher risk of someone catching something by handling your garbage than there is from a two-second run-in with you in a hallway.

Nicholas Davis4 said:Whether it’s a pandemic or the plague, it honestly doesn't matter.
You guys are making such a huge deal out of where to go with your dogs. Even if you can't swing $167 for a pet resort, how are you even able to afford a dog in the first place? It’s certainly not a cheap hobby.
At the end of the day, the logic is simple: if you have a dog, you can go for walks; if you don't, you can't.
My neighbor keeps a rabbit and a turtle, and the kids take them out too. Does that mean they get to take the turtle for a walk?
Seriously, everyone, what do single people with dogs even do? You’re all acting like being stuck at home is a tragedy for families... what would you do if you lived alone?
You'd figure it out. You'd book a kennel, or drop the pup off with a friend—just like I watched my friend's dog while she was traveling. Or you'd leave a parrot with someone. Stop overcomplicating something that has an easy fix. Just use a boarding facility.

Man, Sophie, I could go on about things you're being dramatic about right now, but I won't. Fine, maybe you don't get certain things, but at least don't talk trash when you're out of the loop. Besides, not everyone lives in NYC, so maybe stop posting from your little metropolitan bubble.

Yeah, this is a problem for dog owners. Meaning, if you lean into the issue, you start freaking out. But can we also say the system is totally screwed? Half of this was decided on a whim without any actual thought, and after six months, they still haven't organized a damn thing.

Keith Barrett2 said:So, do you live on the ground floor?
because if not, aren't you basically forced to trek through a shared hallway just to get out of the building? Like, you’d have to run into someone like your neighbor Sue and be stuck within like three feet of each other—I'm pretty sure those stairs aren't even wide enough to dodge someone if you're trying to avoid being exposed.

What does that even have to do with anything? I wouldn't go out if someone was standing in the hall, and honestly, I do the same thing now even when I'm perfectly healthy; I'll wait a minute or two outside my door before heading out.

Besides, people need to take their trash down to the basement and they have to use the stairs to get there. Are they supposed to just let garbage pile up in their apartment for two weeks if they're in isolation?

mellowskipper said:This honestly reminds me of that old story about the poor guy with the tractor just trying to get to his field—it’s like he's some kind of biological terrorist. Personally, when I'm out walking my dog, I try to maintain at least a 15-foot buffer from anyone else. And if I have a mask on? Well... ugh. It feels like I'm sowing seeds of danger everywhere I go, God forbid.

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I keep an even wider distance. I usually get my walking in early in the morning or late at night when everyone is asleep. I can already hear someone coming for my head, calling me irresponsible because I might end up in quarantine just for taking my dog for a stroll.

Nicholas Davis4 said:Maybe I'm wrong, but when you decide to get a dog, you really need to think long and hard about what happens if you can't look after them for a while.
Honestly, hearing how many dogs howl day and night in my apartment complex, it doesn't seem like people give this much thought.
The questions you’re raising—like what to do during a beach vacation, a business trip, or some other travel—plus what happens if you get sick...
It's not like everyone in the family is stuck at home in quarantine all the time.
There are friends, extended family, neighbors... How on earth did you decide to bring a dog into your life knowing you wouldn't have a support system if you needed one?

I actually make a plan for my houseplants before I go away, so it seems pretty irresponsible to own a dog without having a backup plan ready for when you can't be there.

Hold on a second before you start calling people irresponsible. First off, we're talking about a pandemic; it's not like a global health crisis hits every couple of years, so how can you blame someone for not predicting that? Second, anyone who is actually responsible has a backup plan—neighbors, relatives, roommates—basically people they are close to and in contact with. The issue here is that right now, those people are being quarantined right along with you.
Do I really need to spell out why that's a problem? If all five people you usually rely on end up stuck in isolation with you at the same time, who the hell are you supposed to ask for help? And you could end up in isolation any time, every single time you come into contact with someone infected.
Does that seem normal to you? Being forced into a two-week lockdown every time someone gets sick, where you can't even go for a walk in the damn fresh air? Not just walking to the local pub, but actually getting out to nature, a field, or a forest...

Drew Gonzalez75 said:That just goes to show that dogs aren't really meant for apartment living; people just keep them there on a whim.
Anyway, I won't go off-topic anymore. Honestly, if I find out someone is supposed to be in quarantine and I see them out walking their dog, I’m calling the police immediately. They can explain themselves to the authorities.

Good grief. 🤣

Thank God everyone's status is posted publicly so you know exactly who's quarantined or sick and can live your life accordingly. 😁 (Watch your step, too—everyone seems to be on edge lately, and you might catch a stray punch if you say the wrong thing). That’s probably why this virus isn't spreading faster; there's a giant neon sign over everyone's head flashing "I have COVID."

Then they eased up. People were literally begging neighbors to walk their dogs because they weren't allowed out. We’d make deals among ourselves, but you can't realistically expect someone to step up and walk your dog three or four times a day for two straight weeks.

Edit: I think there’s a massive difference between being in self-isolation and being in actual quarantine because you're contagious. If you're infectious, you aren't going anywhere.

Nicholas Davis4 said:

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This really shouldn't be happening. I've been looking into this because being forced into quarantine would be a massive headache for me. You can always find someone to watch your dog, or even pay for a pet hotel, or have a friend come by for walks—but you won't be allowed to leave the house yourself.

I honestly can't imagine who I'd be inconveniencing by throwing on my mask and gloves to take the dog for a walk. Especially since, where I live, there's plenty of room to maintain a good distance from everyone else anyway.

mellowskipper Asks:
I suppose you can only walk a dog if you actually own one.

It simply means that those who own dogs hold a certain level of privilege over those without them.
Why should anyone care whether someone owns a dog or not?
Who’s going to take care of things when you're sidelined with the flu, a pulled muscle, or a nasty stomach bug, especially if you're out in the Pacific Northwest?
Some of you will have the chance to get out and enjoy a walk, while others simply won't be able to.
Since they don't have a dog.

Unfer.

What’s your solution then? Let dogs pee and poop inside the house? Not everyone can handle that—my first dog certainly won't. Am I supposed to just let him get sick because he won't go inside after 12+ hours? I've tried it. We ended up locked in the house without a key; he wouldn't go for 14 hours until he literally couldn't hold it anymore and turned into a puddle. I'm not about to abuse my dog like that.

Believe it or not, even with a stomach bug, the flu, or dizziness so bad I'm hitting walls—along with all sorts of other pains—I still take the dog out to pee and crap, regardless of the weather, whether it's -5 or 105 degrees. No, I don't hang out with people when I'm feeling like absolute garbage and am contagious, but I still take him out to do his business. If I broke my leg, someone would probably jump in to help, but with COVID, you're stuck because even the people who usually help are stuck in isolation with you. That's why dog walking became such a mess for everyone—our backups go into lockdown right along with us since we're all in the same household.

Alexander Bishop2 said:😢 Since this sounds like pure paranoia to me, where exactly did you get that information?
jer na CDC website visitors. The regulations say it’s allowed, and even someone from the command center confirmed it during a press briefing—if I recall correctly, they've actually addressed this exact question several times over the last few months.

I saw some responses on Facebook to emails people sent to various agencies asking for clarification—and honestly, what about those of us with dogs who absolutely have to take them out? Some people have even been fined for it, like these guys: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tel...ji/amp/?espv=1

If it comes down to it, I’m taking mine out. 🤷 I'm not keeping a dog trapped in an apartment for two weeks; they aren't going to just pee and poop inside, and certainly not in front of the building. I have no clue how much of a threat I become just by putting on a mask and gloves and heading out when there are hardly any people around. They're punishing people for nonsense when they aren't a danger at all (like the guy who went out to fertilize his field or the guy mowing his lawn), yet they make up excuses to justify things where they should actually be reacting.

Drew Gonzalez75 said:I mean, what would stop a parent from taking a young child for a walk outside?☕

If they aren't coming into contact with anyone or socializing with other people, I don't see the issue. 🤷

mellowskipper said:I suppose you're only really permitted to walk the dog if you have one.

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That’s not even true. I’ve been asking around because this is a massive issue for me if I end up stuck in quarantine. You can leave your pet with a sitter (or pay for a kennel), or someone else can come walk them while you stay inside. You aren't supposed to go out yourself.

I don't see how I'm endangering anyone by putting on gloves and a mask and just walking the dog alone without talking to a soul. Especially since where I live, we can easily keep our distance from everyone else.

Robin Anderson44 said:There is a massive difference here; if I contract HIV, my life is effectively ruined forever, regardless of how young I am or what my medical history looks like. But if I’m a healthy young person and I catch something like a nasty flu or a minor virus, there’s a very high probability I’ll either walk it off or just spend three days sniffing tissues and feeling miserable.

I’m not sitting here claiming there isn't a small chance it could seriously sideline me or knock me in bed for a week, but those are outliers. People consciously take risks every single day when they get behind the wheel of a car, eat total junk food, or light up a cigarette. You can’t live your entire life under a freaking glass dome 24/7; I mean, you technically could, but I don't know about you, but nobody actually wants to live like that.

I wasn't really trying to compare these two viruses. That’s not the point. It’s about risk assessment. If you know something is dangerous and you go out of your way to do it anyway—like some people on this board seem to be bragging about—you're basically begging to get sick. Nobody can predict how it hits you. You're just tempting fate. 🤷
It happened here in my city the other day—some guy, totally healthy, fit as a fiddle, just drops dead. His mom caught it too; she’s over 80, but somehow she only had mild symptoms before she passed. There’s just no pattern to this. No rules for who gets hit hard and who doesn't. It’s total chaos.

Look, you don't need to live under a glass dome or descend into total paranoia. You just need to use your head. If they tell you something spreads through droplets, that doesn't mean you have to go around licking everyone you run into on the street. Use common sense.

Jeremy Bishop35 said:What, are you his close personal friend or something? You seem to know a lot about this one guy. Come on—give us a break.

Frank Martin2 said:My grandmother told me her friend heard from a neighbor who spent all day reading the news about this old man up in Canada—name's Steve, he's 93. He was a tough guy, always refused to wear a mask when he went to the local nursing home cafeteria for lunch.
And wouldn't you know it? He passed away. They're saying it was COVID.

Go ahead and mock me, whatever. The fact remains that if you act recklessly, it might eventually cost you your life. If you have even a shred of common sense, you take precautions to minimize the risk.

It’s just like HIV. Everyone knows you're cranking up your risk if you're sleeping around with strangers without a condom. Sure, you might catch something from your own spouse if they're cheating, but the odds are much higher if you're hooking up with random people on the street without protection.

Lawrence Reed3 said:My friends and I actually have this sort of unwritten agreement—if any one of us happens to test positive, we aren't going to point fingers or list everyone else as a contact, since we haven't really hung out in a while anyway. I really do feel like people are just more worried about the isolation aspect than the virus itself. I mean, if you catch it, you catch it—you're going to get better whether you're at home or out and about, especially if the symptoms stay pretty mild. It’s summer, too! Who actually wants to be stuck inside for 15 days when it's 90 degrees out instead of being at the beach?

There was this one guy in America who used to post all this "enlightened" crap online, just like you—acting like the whole thing was a hoax, saying nobody could tell him what to do, refusing to wear a mask, all that nonsense. Well, he was buried about three weeks ago. Caught that "little flu" everyone was talking about and died.

Disinfecting alcohol needs to be at least 60-70% concentration, otherwise it’s basically useless. Standard whiskey just doesn't have a high enough proof to actually get the job done for quality disinfection.

This isn't the place for Health PDFs. 🤷

Tyler Vaughn7 said:Look, he isn't exactly a butcher. He wouldn't know a pig if it hit him, unless it showed up as a line item on a spreadsheet...

Regardless, they managed to infect quite a few people, which happens in any big corporation. Most of the stats we see for our state are tied directly back to them.

Andrew Mitchell41 said:Couldn't they have just used a scanner or even a smartphone camera? They could have called everyone involved in the paperwork trail beforehand to see if sending over a PDF or a JPEG would suffice, just to avoid these kinds of headaches in the first place.
I mean, come on, people. Who in their right mind would turn down digital files in a situation like this? ☕Every single business has access to a computer, an A4 printer, and some form of internet connection these days. It's practically standard.
The whole idea is to limit contact—that’s the entire point. That's the only way things actually improve, rather than everyone running around aimlessly or hitting up local bars for social interaction. If you aren't set up with online banking, surely there's someone in your family who can handle a payment for you? That's what I do for certain people.

Maybe I'm being a bit thick here, but my parents back home are exactly the same. I put them in isolation in their apartment about a month ago and I'm not letting them out for anything. You have to hover over them like they're small children because once the enemy becomes "invisible," they just don't grasp it. They don't understand, they don't realize, and they certainly don't accept it... no matter how much I nag them or try to explain the logic behind it.

That's not the point at all. The point is that they went after a woman who did nothing wrong and was just trying to help someone. I could deal with the clerk panicking, but the media outlets broadcasting unverified info? Unacceptable. They'd be getting sued into oblivion if they targeted me like that. You should read the comments on those news sites; it's disgusting what kind of people we live among. If they had their way, they'd be burning people at the stake like it's the Middle Ages.

The obsession with being a witch is absolute bullshit given what’s going on right now.

This specific woman took some medical excuse notes from her neighbors who had COVID and headed to the local Post Office to fax them over to their employers. She actually told the clerk there to make sure to disinfect the area after she left since the paper came from someone with the virus. Honestly, if I were her, I would have sued both the media and that branch for making such a massive scene before even checking the facts. The poor lady got screwed through no fault of her own; she was just doing a favor for her neighbors and gave a heads-up about disinfecting so nobody caught anything from the paperwork. Even if the paper had been sitting with her for three days and wouldn't have actually spread anything, it was still a thoughtful gesture.

For floors, I just dilute everything once per use anyway—I’m just tossing all that water out after I finish mopping. For surfaces like doorknobs, keys, or outlets, I mix a diluted solution in a spray bottle and just hit them whenever I feel like it.

He took a bus ride back from Italy, so what? You're telling me he would've infected the entire bus with some kind of floating virus for three hours straight?