Chris Chase5 said:I have to say, I’m not entirely sure if your whole "calling out" approach is actually hitting the mark. It feels like there might be some language barriers at play here—something you often see in university programs that host a large number of international students. Because of those hurdles, the group GPA tends to look lower than it really is. Since you’ve chosen such an aggressive tone with your critique, I suppose I can afford to be just as blunt in return...
So, you presented that study—that scientific paper—just to achieve some kind of widespread recognition, right? Something that would carry weight among the entire population of physicists, mathematicians, and psychologists here in the States...
Honestly, someone who’s spent their whole life working in the field can't possibly grasp the nuances here. I have a few friends working as teaching assistants, and let me tell you, some of them have zero respect for the curriculum, the organization, or even basic professionalism when it comes to the professors at our College of Science... But if that's just a way to mask some massive superiority complex, then I guess that's exactly what it is... 🙂
I proved it to myself back when I was applying for both programs; I could see my competitors' actual scores for class ranking right there on the screen... you might want to take a closer look at that...😉
The math on an economics entrance exam doesn't necessarily have to be harder than what you'd see on the math and physics entrance exams at the College of Science (though I can't quite recall when the physics exams were held lately)...😉
I'll just say that when I was applying to the College of Science, I was actually exempt from the entrance exam. Still, I decided to take it just for the fun of it since I had taken both physics and math in high school—so, being all high and mighty, I think you would have kicked ass back then...
I'm talking about selection density. You have to cover a specific range of subjects, and there are fewer people competing for those spots compared to the numbers we see in the sciences...
Okay, sure, the math on the entrance exam might be pushed to an extreme, but my question is this: even with such an idealized exam and an ideal education system, why does such a huge percentage of students drop out?
Not for coexisting with other people? 🤣 Or is there nothing in the modern world besides technology? Or could you please—since I appreciate precision—quantify your cost/benefit analysis for me? And you can include only your own contribution, like your contribution to the advancement of science, to me as a user...
I hate condescension, prejudice, and any other kind of judgmental labeling, but considering this is a psychology subforum, what kind of impression do you think someone makes with those statements—someone who has clearly never been in a relationship? Someone for whom technology isn't a tool, but the end goal itself? Do you honestly think our education system directed you toward making a significant contribution to technological development?
No, but the College of Science turned you into a psychological case study. You seem to think you're God, but sooner or later, you're going to realize you aren't... 🙂
I don't mean to brag, but I feel like I could wipe the floor with you and people like you when it comes to understanding and quantifying the phenomena around us. There are groups of people who started with a clear goal and direction, driven by a genuine curiosity that keeps them moving forward...
If you actually had a scientific mind, you would always analyze results with skepticism and adjust your own conclusions based on the level of knowledge you acquire...
Honestly, all the best to you on your little island, and I suppose the standard error of population estimation among physicists is what?...🙂
Thanks for the heads-up that this post was going to be a personal attack.
If you want to look strictly at the math behind the GRE—assuming the verbal section discriminates against international students and that those students are concentrated in lower-ranked majors (which, frankly, makes no sense)—fine, we can do that. But the ranking wouldn't change much regardless.
You cited a study just to troll, right? To get a rise out of the whole population of physicists, mathematicians, and psychologists—which applies here too.
Did you study statistics in business school? Concepts like means, standard deviation, distributions? This isn't about trolling; it's about averages.
Someone working in the field could have absolutely no clue—I have a few friends among the TAs who can't even speak coherently about the curriculum, organization, or the professionalism of the professors at our blessed College of Science... But if you're suffering from a superiority complex, then sure... 🙂
And what are these imaginary TAs called, since we're relying on anecdotes now? And do you tell them they suffer from a "superiority complex" (whatever that means)?
The situation at the College of Science is far from perfect regarding the issues you mentioned, but how you concluded I felt differently based on my posts is a total mystery to me.
I proved it to myself during those years when I was enrolling and looking at the grades of my "competitors"... maybe you should take a look yourself...😉
Okay, I don't care about you personally. As I said at the start, this isn't a personal attack; it's about groups of people.
Admissions for business school don't necessarily require harder math than the entrance exams for the math and physics tracks at the College of Science.
Fine... 😕
I can't even remember—was there even an entrance exam for physics?😉
How long has physics actually existed?
Just so you know—when I was applying to the College of Science, I actually got a pass on the entrance exam. I did it just for the hell of it—purely for my own satisfaction. Since I took both physics and math during my high school finals—so, yeah, I’m feeling pretty high and mighty about this—I honestly think you would’ve kicked ass back then.
Alright, since you’ve decided to make this personal...
What have you been tackling just for the hell of it lately? Entrance exams? Which ones did you finally get out from under your belt?
So you took physics and math on your finals? Real impressive.
I have.
[nešto] Look, I’m not going to tell you which Olympics I competed in or even what medal I took home—I have no interest in outing myself. Unlike most of you lot who just scraped through high school physics and math, there aren't exactly a ton of us Olympiad types running around. 😉 So, honestly? It’s unlikely anything would have kicked me out then—or even now.
I'm talking about selection—you have to cover the ground here. Right now, you're expected to handle three different subjects, even though there are barely enough people at the College of Science to fill the slots. What's the logic there?
Explain yourself.
Look, the math on these entrance exams has been pushed to a total absurdity—I get that. But I’m asking you this: if we actually had these "perfect" exams and an ideal education system, why the hell would such a huge percentage of people still be dropping out?
At the College of Science? For a dozen different reasons—it really just depends on the individual. For some, it’s simply because they can't manage to land on the right side of the bell curve.
So, what—it’s not about being able to live with other people? 🤣 Is there really nothing left in the modern world besides technology? Or—since I prefer precision—could you please quantify your cost-benefit ratio for me? And let’s be clear about the "benefit" part: you can only include your actual contribution, like your impact on scientific progress or what you specifically offer me as a user.
Got it. If you're that interested, just start a new thread about it—maybe I'll even show up.
I hate policing, prejudice, and any other kind of moralizing—but if you drop statements like that in a psychology subforum, what kind of impression do you think you're making on someone who’s actually been in a relationship before?
Those self-help books written by pop-psychologists about "reading body language"—the ones mentioned earlier—are pure pseudoscience. Any actual psychologist worth their salt will tell you the exact same thing.
When does technology stop being a tool and start becoming the end goal itself? Do you honestly think our education system actually prepared you to make any meaningful contribution to technological advancement?
You really think you're in any position to judge?
Do I even care?
No, but the College of Science turned you into a psychological case study because you think you're God—and sooner or later, you'll realize you aren't... 🙂
Stalking me now? Interesting.
If you haven't realized by now, that thread was just a joke meant to highlight the circular logic behind claiming God is infallible.
I hate to brag, but I could wipe out the understanding of people like you when it comes to quantifying the phenomena around us—people who actually had a goal and a direction, driven by actual curiosity...
Wow, a basic insult. You don't know anything about me. Dropping down to that level of vulgarity says way more about you than it does about me.
If you actually had a scientific mind, you'd be analyzing results skeptically and adjusting your own conclusions based on how much you actually know...
Thanks for the advice!
Honestly, good luck on your little island. And what’s the standard error for population estimates among physicists?🙂
SD=15.
SE=15/sqrt(n).
Since n is greater than 200, the SE is less than 1.