Why do we always end up this way? It feels like a recurring theme, much like our struggles with futsal, though perhaps even more frustrating since we are talking about the beautiful game on a grand scale. Or do you honestly believe we can operate like Manchester United, maintaining a roster of just a handful of players on average? I am not sure what part of the country you all reside in, but here in New York City, achieving that is an absolute impossibility...
The moment privatization is finalized, this club is effectively dead on arrival. From a legal standpoint, our hands will be tied completely. Any attempts at alternative forms of action will simply be shut down by Ostojic and his loyalists, all acting under the direction of a single individual. So, what exactly are we discussing? We are talking about a privatization process dictated by an illegal board whose leader is currently facing multiple investigations, while the Department of Defense turns a blind eye to the whole mess.🤣 It’s a farce played out by both the government and the public alike...
cosmicscout2 said:So, if they align themselves with the Democrats, everything is suddenly fine?
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They would essentially be siding with the Democrats regardless of which of those two parties they choose; the only real distinction is that in one of them, your boss holds sway...
People are working, certainly. It would likely be more impactful if they were also active within the Department of Labor, but then we would run into issues regarding sheer numbers... regardless, the core message being sent remains the most important factor.
I am certain that those Bad Boys who were actually involved won't be posting anything here, and those who did participate aren't saying a word either. I see absolutely no reason for everyone else—whose only source of information seems to be some random clip or news article—to start drawing their own conclusions... Just send a little money to the guys over on Fifth Avenue; I'm positive they're going to need it eventually.
slyeagle512 said:For heaven's sake, just lock this damn thread already. It's incredibly rude to leave it wide open like this. And stop sending money to the account; keeping this unlocked is honestly an embarrassment.
Taking matters into one's own hands can certainly be beneficial and even necessary in certain circumstances, but in this particular instance, I fail to see what is actually being achieved. On the contrary, isn't it more likely that such actions will simply result in new restrictions being imposed and further fragmentation within the group? Perhaps my perspective is flawed, but that is merely my considered opinion. By the way, I haven't observed any kind of insult or anything remotely similar 🤷
I’ve been scrolling through Facebook lately, and it’s truly baffling to see how they’re managing the page. Even more perplexing is seeing the fans at the stadium calling for everyone to move back to the North Stand. While I am inclined to believe their intentions are sincere and well-meaning, I suspect they don't fully grasp the sheer amount of damage they're causing. For heaven's sake, people, pull yourselves together and use some common sense. What on earth are you thinking?
cosmicscout2 said:Could someone please explain the difference between last night's performance and the absolute disgrace we've endured in Europe over the last five years? Honestly, last night wasn't even embarrassing, considering who the opponent was. You can celebrate all you want, but a streak of 100 consecutive losses in European competition wouldn't be enough to finally remove Glavonj from his position at Dinamo Chicago. I truly don't understand how this remains unclear to some of you.
And? We all know he won't go. So, what exactly is everyone supposed to cheer for—Mamić's personal ATM? How is it still not obvious to you that people simply couldn't care less about Mamić's club? It’s the same way those 3,500 people right now don't give a damn; they only find the team interesting because they're playing at the Allianz Arena during Oktoberfest. Once they face a Greek side, they'll lose interest again immediately.
Go ahead, cheer blindly and celebrate every goal while the old man drains millions from the club's coffers. Meanwhile, we will continue to stand against him.
Justin Watson4 said:Of course I am aware of all the points mentioned above. My actual point lies in the preceding posts. Everyone seems to be wasting so much energy debating whether the professionals are getting their kickbacks $6.75 (as if that were some sudden revelation), rather than redirecting that enthusiasm toward organizing a massive trip to Munich. This time around, whoever actually wants to go will make it happen. There won't be any customs agents, police officers, or even figures like Bill Clinton standing in anyone's way or claiming they have the right to stop us from leaving. To be more direct: if only about 20 of us end up in Munich—and let me be clear, we aren't part of any organized fan groups, nor do we have special tickets—while 90% of the group stays home, then what exactly are we discussing? Either we travel to visit Indianapolis, Munich, or Miami, or we don't go at all. I'll say it again: everyone is exhausting themselves arguing over a few dozen US Dollars in kickbacks, when a round-trip ticket from LA-Los Angeles to Munich costs roughly 30 US Dollars. It should go without saying that we shouldn't all just follow the herd like sheep being led to slaughter in shuttle buses, providing yet another excuse for why people might stay behind. Surely, common sense should suffice.
I fail to see why travel itineraries should be discussed here. Getting to Munich isn't exactly an impossible feat, and even if it were, I doubt anyone would be posting specific logistics on this forum.
I should probably apologize to some of you here on the forum who aren't even part of this specific discussion, but it’s becoming impossible to ignore. For years now, we've dealt with the same group of fools appearing at every single event—people who claim they aren't fans of Jerry Jones, yet they react to everything with the same predictable hostility. Is it really necessary? Every time a nuanced conversation about the Dallas Cowboys begins to gain any momentum, a brand-new account pops up just to spit vitriol. They immediately declare themselves "hardcore ultras," as if that grants them some kind of authority. Honestly, it’s getting a bit pathetic, don't you think?🤣
I have a question for those advocating for a gathering at Yankee Stadium: what exactly would the objective be? You can't engage in any indecent behavior, or the police will swoop in and there will be more arrests (serif). Some people are already on watchlists, and others will undoubtedly find themselves on them soon enough (Indianapolis); on top of that, we’ll see new nonsense surfacing, like searching for prisons to blame for certain sectors or claims of harassment... Basically, you'd just go there to loiter around the stadium and watch our numbers dwindle week after week. Besides, who knows how the North Stand might look if we actually had those guys from the other side joining us..
casualwolf48 said:There is nothing wrong with clashing viewpoints or engaging in debate, even on a forum that some might dismiss as a joke. We have to face reality: the situation is grim, and one must admit that pure luck favored the undeserving in this victory over Arsenal. At the same time, one shouldn't immediately take a defiant stance and shout, "Oh yeah? Why don't you take the risk then?" What am I supposed to risk? Another three months in a high-security federal penitentiary? Or perhaps another year-long ban from my forty-six years of following this group? One should be able to state an opinion that deserves respect, regardless of how much it deviates from the consensus. We all need to step up together; everyone should contribute what they can to the collective. The leadership isn't to blame for the widespread defeatism or the apathy displayed by certain individuals. Times are difficult, and that must be acknowledged. As I walk my dog, I notice how many people are wearing Real Madrid jerseys—some bought from random street vendors, others from the official team store. In the local coffee shops, ordinary folks are debating whether Real Madrid has any chance at finishing third in their Champions League group. It could easily reach a point of absurdity where the very same people who spend their weekends playing futsal end up scrambling for Champions League tickets. Bread, games, and beers with the crew. All of these signs should be setting off alarm bells. Those who are truly invested in the prosperity of this group ought to contact the leadership, request a meeting, and—alongside our usual futsal sessions—develop some exit strategies. This result against Arsenal is a serious matter. Historically, leaders provided "bread and circuses" to the masses; were the Roman Emperors considered fools for employing such tactics for centuries? It is unseemble to attack the group's leadership via an internet forum. Instead, demand dialogue and meetings; attempt to negotiate. These guys have always been willing to meet anyone halfway and talk things through. I say this from personal experience. Or, alternatively, one could simply withdraw and remain silent.
It will likely persist until we get crushed by Bayern and brought back down to earth by the coaching staff, at which point the entire situation will pivot again in a few weeks...
Perhaps it would be wise to keep them under tight surveillance for a few days. Following that embarrassing performance against Arsenal, they’ve managed to shore up their wings, and now they're back just to stir the pot again...
Scott Jones9 said:Everyone seems eager to demand changes or complain about the status quo, yet how many are actually willing to roll up their sleeves and put in the actual work? It is a common phenomenon: very few people are truly driving the engine, and things rarely unfold according to the rigid, idealistic blueprints drawn up by individuals on an internet forum.
That is precisely the point. No one wants to do the heavy lifting; they would much rather just sit back and watch the world go by. If it were easy, I would love nothing more than to see a hundred torches lit to drive those radicals out of the picture for good. But since I lack the sheer audacity to attempt something of that magnitude, I find it somewhat misplaced to judge others for not taking such extreme actions.
Nothing in this situation is strictly black or white; there is a certain degree of validity in everyone's perspective, even if it is frustrating...
The situation is essentially such that there isn't much room for maneuver. Whether people want to admit it or not, we are more on the verge of collapse than anything else. Every possible avenue has been explored, yet here we are, effectively running headfirst into a brick wall. Occasionally, the sheer lack of progress frustrates me, but realistically, what is there left to do? If anyone actually has a viable solution, please, feel free to propose it; I am certain everyone would be eager to listen. For now, futsal is all we have to hold onto—at least for me. As far as the main club goes, I couldn't care less; honestly, having the futsal side gives me just enough of a reason to remember what it actually feels like to belong to a club community.