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To all the people who’ve been lurking on my posts or blowing up my inbox:
Please, just stop sending me questions if you're planning on seeing the same doctors I did for one simple reason: I haven't had a single positive experience with them, and honestly, they achieved absolutely nothing!
I can't feel any difference at all. My left nostril is giving me just as much trouble as it was two years ago—the septum is actually causing obstruction on both sides Link Link. I kept telling the doctors that this is a physical, structural issue because it’s the exact same story whether it's summer or winter; at night, I’m basically forced to breathe through my mouth... (or through my tonsils, as one doctor joked when I almost gave up on the whole surgery after a follow-up with a nurse who actually praised the work during my initial consultation), ...but the reality is I'm suffocating from dry air and steam. If I could actually breathe through my nose, my mucous membranes and sinuses would warm and humidify the air, everything would function normally, and I’d actually have energy and an immune system since everything isn't just hitting my lungs directly. I can't take deep breaths through my nose, and I never will be able to. It takes me forever just to catch my breath after a run, I can't get into any kind of shape, my sense of smell and taste are dull, my appetite is shot, and I deal with constant sinus headaches. There's this dark, aching spot right between my eyes (etmoidan and sphenoid sinuses), and twice now, I’ve felt so nauseous from driving too long that I actually wanted to die...

The truth is, most of these doctors have zero clue how to adapt to an individual case. They all just do things their own way without any consistency or standards. Some use "2mm" sutures, some go for "10cm" splits, some won't let you go home early while others toss you out immediately. Some think they were born geniuses, and some just straight-up refuse to listen to anything I say. One guy even implied that if your nose runs in the winter, you should just go get high immediately. Another one spots a problem on the CTU and then I end up with someone else later who claims they "don't see anything"... if I had enough money for a lawyer, all of them would be getting sued for all the wasted time I've lost.
So, yeah, I'm done. There's no help to be found here, I have nobody to recommend, and frankly, I don't care about this topic anymore.
Please stop messaging me with questions. Either steer clear of the doctors I mentioned, or go see them if you want—I really don't care.

Does anyone know a doctor over by the hospital area who specializes in adjusting pyramids—specifically someone who knows their stuff when it comes to noses? I need someone who actually knows what they're doing.
It's kind of an emergency, Jay!!!!
(Shoot me a DM, please, because I really don't have the patience to wade through all that lady drama in the public threads)
🙂

electricangler32 said:Man, you are being straight-up paranoid :O

Look, if you were actually walking in my shoes, you’d get why I’m spiraling, but hey, it’s nice that everyone else has something exciting going on in their lives besides me.
On this thread, like 90% of the girls just obsess over looks, meanwhile I can't even live a normal life because I can't breathe through my nose. Screw them and their "subjective beauty" nonsense...
Think about all the money wasted on cosmetic stuff compared to what goes toward my medical bills, or how all those unemployed people are essentially paying for everyone's supplemental insurance through taxes! If I could just fix my actual health issues, I wouldn't be lurking here looking for help to stay sane—which is the whole point of this useless thread, yet everyone just talks about aesthetics. 😢

Hey everyone. I’ve been dealing with some pretty scary breathing issues since back in 2011. Looking back, I realized then that there's this constant physical blockage making it impossible to breathe properly. It’s been a domino effect—losing my ability to work, being unable to relax, losing focus, just completely unable to concentrate. Everything has just spiraled downward as the years pass. My hormones are all over the place, my appetite is shot so I’m getting thinner, and my sleep has been a mess ever since I spent three months in the hospital. Even now, the days feel like they're blurring together too fast. People tell me I look pale, and honestly, after even a little bit of exercise or a decent walk, I’m totally wiped out, like someone drained every ounce of energy straight from my legs. Then the next day, I’m just a wreck—moody, zero motivation, and basically always dealing with headaches and whatnot.
The headaches actually forced me to drop out of college because the stress was just too much to handle. Since then, finding a job has been a nightmare, and my girlfriend ended up leaving me because she said my life was becoming too heavy to deal with—though I doubt she would've stayed if the roles were reversed. I don't blame her, though; she was kind of an immature, intolerant kid. I haven't worked in three years, which means years of my life have just vanished into thin air while I sit here wondering what to do next. I've tried everything, but man, when your health is trashed, you're stuck. And the help I've gotten from these "hospitals"? Absolutely nothing.
That’s why I’m posting here for some advice, because it feels like my problems are endless. To be honest, last year I wasn't even sure if I’d make it to my surgery; I was literally counting down the days until the first one, and now I'm facing a second...
The only thing I really care about right now is whether anyone has dealt with correcting a deviated septum or a crooked nasal pyramid at the Mount Sinai clinic and who they saw . I was scrolling through forums last year and saw a girl with the exact same issue, and that’s the doctor who sent me for a CT scan, only for him to claim everything was fine. He basically had to check with his colleagues to confirm the CT looked okay, but nobody else could see the problem except me when I got home and looked at the actual scans. Well, except for the other doctor from my previous surgery—he noticed it, but he clearly didn't have the guts to fix the nasal bone. You can find videos on YouTube of Chinese specialists fixing that stuff in 45 seconds flat.
I don't even know what to say about the American healthcare system. It’s basically the Medicare for Zahebancija!

So, for two or three years, I’ve been bouncing from specialist to specialist, and every single doctor tells me a different story. It’s obvious they either have no clue what’s going wrong or they just don't care because they're just doing the bare minimum they're paid for. Honestly, I feel like I know more about nasal anatomy than these "PhDs." None of the ENT specialists seem to be any better than the last; they all have their own agendas. I haven't found a single one who actually listens to the patient or makes a definitive plan for what needs to be done. They’re all so conservative. Even my primary care doctor figured out the main issue and encouraged me to get it fixed, but I still haven't. I’ve spent countless hours sitting on waiting lists like everyone else, only for it to be a complete waste of time every single time. One doctor wouldn't touch it, another wanted to perform surgery on a Rib, but waiting nine months was just too long for me. At Mount Sinai, one guy sent me for a CT and told me everything looked perfect—like my sinuses were fine and nothing needed to be done—even though I showed up with a written opinion from a female doctor stating otherwise. I knew exactly what was coming, because before that, he had told me the entire middle section and the nasal pyramid needed to be straightened out, which is exactly what should have happened in the first place. Then another guy told me I was breathing straight, implying they couldn't see where the other turbines were heading toward the upper sinus passages, etc. I've seen four or five different doctors, starting with a private specialist back in July 2012 who charged about $27 $0.00 "for 45 minutes of work," and later when I Googled him, I saw plenty of people complaining about him too. So, in the end, my only option left was the public hospitals. Around that time, they had scrapped the supplemental coverage for the unemployed, so now I’m paying out of pocket for insurance that I've been paying for for two years (-$413 for NOTHING) out of the tiny scraps of my old paycheck. It's all just going down the drain.
Anyway, I finally had my nose surgery early last year, and predictably, it didn't help AT ALL because they didn't even touch the actual problem (the "vertical shift of the entire septum," according to the private doctor—the crooked nose is obvious to anyone with eyes, but hospital doctors just look for ways to do the least amount of work possible, which seems to be the rule everywhere).
Now, this year it's rhinoplasty, and it's the same story. This doctor also refused to touch the external appearance, saying, "I know exactly what needs to be done." On the day of my hospitalization, we had this tense little argument about discharging me on the third day and the crookedness of my nose, as if he thought he had to start sawing through bone. I asked him if the headaches would stop if he didn't touch that part, and he said, "they should," but of course, they didn't.

Here’s my situation:
1. My nose is crooked toward my left side—the septum basically runs straight down to eye level (you can Google images of nasal bones if you want a better visual)
2. These headaches are making it impossible to sleep or feel rested. I am beyond exhausted—like, way past the point where most people can function, let alone notice they're tired. It completely trashes my sleep, keeps me constantly tense, and honestly, I hit my breaking point last year, so I started taking sleeping pills just to drift off early. I have these dark circles under my eyes; they aren't right under the lids, more like between the eyes where the ethmoid sinuses are. I assume those aren't ventilating properly, so maybe the skin turned dark from the pain, or maybe it’s just the chronic lack of sleep. Who knows.

Has anyone dealt with this exact mess or had any luck fixing it?
Which doctor should I see over at the Mayo Clinic area? The other hospitals around here are a total joke...

-If anyone knows a specialist who actually fixes severely deviated noses—they fixed my nasal pyramid and the deviation, but the septum is still blocking my sinuses vertically. For example: //\ is how my /|\ looks compared to a normal one.
I really don't have the stomach for another surgery after the second one, and I'm not sure I could handle a third round of general anesthesia. Does anyone know if this can be fixed under local anesthesia?
Also, I am absolutely not planning on staying in a hospital overnight again. I stayed eight days after each previous surgery just so I wouldn't cause trouble for the staff, but during this last one, they took four days just to shorten the packing because they thought it wouldn't be an issue over the weekend. And man, the discomfort when air starts circulating around the packing while all that mucus is trying to get out... it’s a maddeningly ticklish sensation that drives you crazy. Having to deal with the packing being shortened is even worse, especially when you have to go through the whole removal process twice.

To be fair, for about four hours after that second surgery, I could breathe so deeply and easily it was actually a relief. I could even smell the food much stronger when lunch was being served. I felt significantly better during that window, until things just started going downhill again and by evening, it was back to square one. I thought maybe the mucosa was just swollen or there was extra drainage and I needed time, but eight days later, nothing has changed. There's no swelling. The septum probably just shifted due to the packing and snapped back because the core issue wasn't actually addressed. I’m dying to see what the doctor says when I tell him at the follow-up that nothing feels any better.
Just to be clear, me venting about my misfortune doesn't mean you won't have a great outcome. I'm clearly a special case, and I'm happy to spend the time and words if it helps someone else recognize their own symptoms or learn from my mistakes. They never bothered to fix the "outer part"—the slanted nasal bone—because that’s apparently too much work for them, and frankly, nobody cares how much effort I had to put into getting all these tests done. That bone is what holds my septum centered, and I think I knocked it out of alignment when I was a kid back in 2009, colliding with some girl and then wiping out on a bike face-first onto a sidewalk—I might have even been unconscious.
If anyone is interested in swapping info, photos, or links, I'm totally down to chat. I'm on Skype, or Facebook if you don't use Skype (but please, someone with a similar situation so we can figure this out together). I'm away from my computer right now, but I'll be back on April 10th around 10 PM, so I'll check messages then, or any other day. Just click my username and send a message.
That's all from me. Cheers!

Nicole Jackson2 said:I am seriously so frustrated with my nose. It’s such a massive complex for me that I want to get surgery ASAP.🙂
Which surgeon should I go with if I actually want to be happy with how it turns out?

Man, that diagnosis sounds like a total nightmare. If you've got functional issues like a deviated septum, it’s a whole different ballgame. As for the aesthetics part, I honestly don't have a clue, and nobody here is going to give you solid advice because, let's face it, I haven't seen a single guy get work done on his nose yet. 😁 pozic-

restlesspuma15 said:Take a deep breath and get ready to duck.
Are you actually reading what you write?
Look, man, you just went under the knife like a month ago, so it’s totally normal that your nose still smells funky and feels constantly stuffed up. Your nasal lining is still dealing with all that swelling from the surgery, and your bones haven't even settled back into their proper spots yet. You've gotta be patient—recovery for this kind of procedure is a marathon, not a sprint, and it can easily drag on for a full year before you're feeling like yourself again.
Look, just take a breather and let things settle for at least six months before you even think about mapping out your next move.

Look, let me set the record straight. I haven't had any rhinoplasty done, so I’m not sitting here all swollen like some influencer after a procedure. I can actually feel this double septum thing happening right from the tip of my nose—I can feel the gap with my own fingers, and yeah, I can see it clearly on the CT scans. I might go back in for another round once things settle, but I know how it works: you expect that immediate fix the second the swelling goes down. You didn't quite catch what I was saying, and honestly, neither did those people hitting me up in my DMs—and just to be clear, if you aren't dealing with a male anatomy issue, maybe don't chime in on why I'm venting here in the first place. If you actually understood me, then thanks for the concern, really, it's super sweet of you, but I'm already waiting it out. I've never been one of those lucky people where everything just magically fixes itself; that concept doesn't exist in my universe unless I physically step in and change it. I know complaining is a total waste of energy, but I don't really have another way to process this besides letting it out, otherwise I'd just be lying to myself and suffering in silence. I've spent three years living unconsciously enough, thanks.
Everything started feeling better bit by bit, maybe two, four, or eight days after the surgery and once they finally cleared out my sinuses. But man, when they pulled those nasal tampons out, I seriously couldn't even take a full breath. I went totally pale, and my sister was asking if I felt dizzy or anything, but honestly, I didn't even know. For about four or five days there, it felt like air was just bypassing everything through the tampons, which made the left side feel weirdly pressurized, but once they were out, everything finally snapped back into place. Like I mentioned before, I’ve always had this vertical deviation in my septum, and my doctor noticed it immediately—he actually noted in my chart that I was basically his first case ever dealing with this specific issue. Back in the day, I didn't have the cash to cover a full thirty-five-minute procedure plus the observation time, so I just waited. Now, looking at how things went down, I don't know what kind of game they're playing in this hospital. They spent two and a half hours just reading newspapers or acting like they were playing pocket billiards; it was like nobody else in the room even existed besides me.
Honestly, that doctor was a total disaster. Easily the worst one I’ve ever dealt with. To make matters even worse, my insurance provider just assigned him to me through their online portal, so I didn't even get a say in who I saw. It's hard to advocate for yourself when you can barely function, and honestly, with the migraine I was dealing with, I wasn't even conscious enough to process half of what he was rambling about.

I'm getting my next surgery scheduled ASAP. You clearly don't get that I can't just sit around twiddling my thumbs for six months; either I'm going to lose my mind from the sheer misery of it all, or I'll end up spiraling into a cycle of pills, smoking, and booze just to numb the reality of this situation.
I probably won't even make it to my surgery because of how much my health has tanked over the last six months. Honestly, I might just throw myself under a Greyhound bus at this rate. My lungs can't even recover without supplemental oxygen, which explains why I look like a walking corpse, and meanwhile, I’m out here biking everywhere only to deal with these damn deaf bees everywhere. It's a nightmare. They've already chased me and stung me a couple of times, and since I'm basically the world champion of anaphylactic shock, if one of those things stings me inside my mouth, I'm a dead man. I'll choke before I even hit the ground. I feel like I've already lost so much this summer—haven't I given up enough already? It feels like there's nothing left for me in this life.
I’m going to be relentless until I get this sorted out, because at the end of the day, it’s my life on the line. I’m more than willing to put in the work to fix things, but it feels like everyone else couldn't care less. It’s just how the world works nowadays—people are too wrapped up in themselves to give a damn about anyone else, especially when you're dealing with animals that can't exactly speak up for themselves or demand better.
Hey there...

Kimberly Hughes17 said:It’s been a full five weeks since my surgery—open technique, tip work, and that cartilage graft—and I’ve gotta be honest, I’m seeing absolutely zero progress when it comes to the swelling. My nose still looks totally blunt and oversized, especially at the tip. I’m feeling pretty crushed because, looking in the mirror right now, it doesn't feel like I actually got any real change out of this. I was really banking on seeing some kind of shift once I hit the one-month mark, but nope, nothing yet. Maybe it’s just too early to tell, though. 🤷
But hey, five weeks still isn't exactly a walk in the park...

Hey. Look, the tip of the nose is such a complex area that you honestly have no idea—I’d probably only even consider going through with it if I already knew the surgeon was a decent human being.
When you go in for your follow-up, they’re obviously going to act all dismissive, and yeah, it’s definitely not a short amount of time, but from what I gather, they dealt with the most complicated part of the surgery on you.
Stick with the same guy for your check-up next month, but if the tip hasn't changed at all, take some photos just so you can be sure. It might just be that you aren't used to your "new" look yet, which is totally normal—I’ve read about other people feeling unsatisfied just because of those initial shifts, and it sucks to hear. If he doesn't actually suggest any changes, then maybe go get a second opinion from someone else if you really feel like something is off, maybe see one of those big-name specialists.

By the way, where did they make the incision for the scar? Like, right in the middle of the bridge? And can you describe what the stitches looked like? Sorry if I'm being a bit much to you and the other girls here, but feel free to DM me if you don't want to talk about it publicly. I'm just curious since my own situation is basically a 50/50 toss-up depending on which doctor I end up with.
Also, has anyone tried using propolis on their scars, and is that actually a smart move? (I've got a ton of it lying around)☕
Thanks

Grace Wright62 said:Hi everyone,
I just left the ENT clinic at Mount Sinai and they’re recommending I get surgery:
reconstructio septi nasi et pyramidis
The doctor is Dejan Tomljenović.
I was wondering if anyone here has actually had surgery with him? How is he?!
I couldn't find much about him online, which is making me a little nervous.
If you have any recommendations for other doctors, please let me know.
thanks

Don't go blindly into this! That's pretty much your first mistake right there.
I basically walked into the Mayo Clinic like a headless chicken, and well, just read the rest above...
Don't let a doctor's big personality or overly enthusiastic vibe throw you off.
Personally, I'm going to stick with these two for sure + I just read yesterday that they actually got the most cutting-edge ENT equipment in the whole country. Catch ya later.

Hey everyone, has anyone dealt with a functional mess similar to mine, or maybe has some solid advice on which specialist can actually fix my nose properly the first time around? Please, only weigh in if you actually know what you’re talking about—I don't need random opinions from random clinics. It's urgent because summer is rolling in, and with it comes those killer allergies... 🙂 🙂 🙂

Medical History:
Breathing through my nose is a nightmare (deviated septum, maybe polyps, chronic sinusitis or inflammation—sinus issues are a constant cause of headaches since I can't drain anything, plus occasional allergies make the mucosa swell up, which is just straight-up awful)
Constant mouth breathing, especially when I'm asleep.
Complete vertical shift of the septum (can't even get a painless fiberoptic exam done) — it looks visibly crooked from the outside and internally as far as I can see.
Basically, the deviation has been there naturally since I was a kid, I can see it in old photos, but I didn't realize how bad it was until I took a hit to the nose and my left nostril completely slammed shut.
It's like a portion of the septum is basically broken off from the base, and it healed that way; the lower part of the "pyramid" is shifted, it's not centered on my X-rays where you can clearly see the 2D layout, and part of the septum is shoved right up against the turbinates.
Do hospital doctors actually fix stuff like this? (I think it's called reconstructive nasal surgery or something, but my GP told me nobody would bother fixing it for me :S even though he clearly doesn't have a clue and is just talking big—he did notice a "5mm" shift, though.)
Can this be reconstructed using an open technique, or is closed surgery an option too?
I really want the septum straightened so the exterior looks more symmetrical, assuming they actually listen to what I want when they write down the notes...
I'm not 100% sure if I have a polyp in the left nostril, but something feels weird....
Can I request sinus imaging and a polyp check at a major hospital like Mayo Clinic to be certain? Has anyone done that there, or do they just refer you out to a specialist? 😕
Moving on...
I've got these constant headaches; I started popping over-the-counter painkillers, but only one type helps, and I'm worried the pain is progressive. I'm feeling worse overall, zero energy for anything.
I also have these gray dark circles under my eyes and between them; my ethmoid sinuses are likely messing with my eyes, which ache too.
Besides the headaches, my hearing sensitivity is through the roof—I suspect my Eustachian tube, which connects to the sinuses, is involved. It's incredibly frustrating; noise sounds 10x louder to me. I'm light-sensitive too; I can't even look at things in the summer without sunglasses. People keep telling me I look pale, asking if I'm okay, blah blah blah—honestly, I feel like a vampire🙂 so I mostly just head out at night. 🙂 Hahaha

So, who's better to see: Vance or Baldwin? (I need to email my referral, I'm getting impatient! Let me know if any of you have gone to one of them regarding a similar issue. Of course, only if you're qualified to give professional advice. IF NO ONE RESPONDS FOR A WHILE, PLEASE SEND ME A PM WHEN YOU SEE THIS. I'd appreciate it because I'm not checking this thread constantly—there are way too many pages to scroll through, and I don't have the energy to read through endless threads of girls talking about aesthetics while I'm sitting here waiting for a loading screen... I need to book an appointment ASAP because I don't know how long the waitlist is.)
I think they're both equally good; I've read everything available on them, so I'm wondering if anyone has more hands-on experience with Vance, since I want to be absolutely sure this is my second attempt at doing this right.
I had a procedure a month ago where they fixed the right side, which was crumpled but wasn't actually blocking my breathing much because there was enough room due to the shift to the left. Because of that, he didn't even touch the left side since it looked "straight" to him. He had no idea what he was doing or if he intentionally avoided fixing the whole septum—I don't know. He just cut out a piece, put it back, and because of that, I was out for two and a half hours under anesthesia and spent days in the hospital, not to mention having to go back for follow-ups and more paperwork....
Even though I just went under the knife, am I going to be stuck in some kind of waiting game before I can even think about another procedure? Maybe there's a way around it if I lay all the facts out for the doctor.
I’m honestly just dying to finally be able to breathe normally again 😢😢
Let me know what you guys think..

I don't even know where to start with this one, honestly. It’s like watching someone try to assemble IKEA furniture without the manual while wearing oven mitts—just pure, unadulterated chaos. You look at the situation and you just have to shake your head because it's so absurdly predictable yet somehow still manages to catch you off guard every single time. It’s that specific kind of mess that makes you want to sit back with a coffee and just observe the train wreck from a safe distance. kaže:
Hey everyone! So, tomorrow marks exactly one week since I had my septorhinoplasty at the Mayo Clinic, and I figured I’d drop by to share a bit about the experience—mostly to give a little nudge to anyone sitting on the fence about getting their septum corrected because they're feeling a bit nervous. First off, I have to say the doctors, nurses, and the entire staff over at Mayo were absolutely incredible; honestly, even during the late-night shifts, everyone was super kind and genuinely helpful. 🙂 So, I had my surgery with Vagić, and honestly, if I ever have to go under the knife again, he’s the only one I’m calling. The guy is the real deal—super knowledgeable, incredibly professional, and just a genuinely kind person. You really can't say anything bad about him. Since this was my first time ever dealing with surgery, I was pretty sketched out by the idea of general anesthesia, but everything went smooth as silk (aside from some muscle aches for the first couple of days). The only real headache I dealt with was the swelling during those first 36 hours post-op. Honestly, that was five times worse than the actual surgical pain. The pain wasn't even localized to my nose; it felt more like a massive sinus infection where your whole jaw and face just throb, you know? As for the bruising, I think I might have been a bit of an outlier because the staff mentioned they hadn't seen anyone with that much deep purple discoloration in at least two weeks or so. 😁 Look, I’m definitely not the gold standard for medical benchmarks here, but I figured I'd share. I finally got the cast off today, and man, the bruising is moving through this thing at warp speed. I’m already seeing brown and yellow patches everywhere, and it hasn't even been a full week since the surgery! I honestly thought this whole discoloration phase would drag on way longer than it actually is. My nose is still pretty swollen—especially the tip—and my lower cheek near the jawline is acting up too, but all things considered, the recovery is moving along surprisingly fast. 🙂 I’m talking about my own gut feeling here—it's like seeing rainbows on my face or something—but honestly, I'm pretty sure the nose is going to be totally back to normal within the next six months.
Anyway, I hope all this actually ends up being useful for someone out there, but as for me, I’m heading back to go tend to my bonsai. 😁 I can finally breathe for the first time in twenty-five years... seriously, I feel like I just stepped out of a vacuum seal. 😁

I don't even know where to start with this one, honestly. It’s like watching a slow-motion train wreck where everyone involved thinks they're driving a Ferrari when they're actually just pedaling a tricycle through a swamp. You see it all the time, people convinced they've cracked the code, acting like they're some kind of genius, while the rest of us are just sitting here shaking our heads at the sheer absurdity of it all. It's almost impressive, in a deeply tragic sort of way. kaže:
The right side of my bridge feels fine, but the left side? Absolute zero. It’s like I’ve suddenly been dropped into a completely different dimension. 😁 When the doctor finally pulled those nasal tampons out, I took one big breath and honestly? My head just spun. It was like being hit with a massive wave of pure oxygen all at once—I was absolutely buzzing from it. 🙂

I don't know about you guys, but like I said before, I'm definitely heading in to get everything checked out and overhauled. 😁 I honestly haven't run into a single bad experience yet, which is pretty wild considering I should've probably headed over to the Mayo Clinic ages ago back when I was being an idiot and constantly rushing to get in line as early as possible.
There’s a pretty good chance they'll get mine fixed up just like hers, since my right eye is doing fine but the left one is basically useless. 😉

briskorca6 said:The more I scroll through these comments, the more I’m starting to freak out about getting surgery. Is it actually possible that out of an entire army of doctors, not a single one carries a hundred percent flawless reputation?
I’m constantly lurking on this forum, and every time I find a doctor who looks like a total superstar, I’ll flip through a few pages and realize they absolutely wrecked someone else's nose while making another person look perfect.
I get that every nose is its own unique thing, but I have to ask: is there actually any surgeon out there who can fix a nose properly without leaving you with bumps, lumps, or some other weird structural mess afterward?

Man, my doctor basically ghosted my concerns. I went through all that hassle doing tests and driving all over town just to end up feeling like nothing even happened—except now my hand is still twitching from the anesthesia, though that's fading today. It’s been 13 days post-op, and I can breathe slightly better through my nostril, which was already fine to begin with. He only focused on one side because it looked a bit crooked, totally ignoring the fact that the other side is narrow and the tip of my cartilage is basically broken—honestly, it feels like I have a double septum inside, even if it looks okay on the surface. I even showed him the X-ray... what a joke. At the end of the day, it really matters if the doctor actually writes down what you want fixed. How are they supposed to remember every tiny detail when they’re seeing dozens of patients in a clinic all day? Only the smart ones take detailed notes.
Don't let the fear get to you; just follow the experiences of people who've done it and you'll be fine! (I’ll jump back on this thread once my nose is fully healed and working at 110% 😁 so I can share if he was actually worth it. Personally, I’m doing this mainly for functional reasons so I have an excuse to tell girls, but if you have questions, just shoot me a DM. There's no point asking everyone else here since most of these people have moved on with their lives anyway).

It doesn't even matter, honestly; you guys aren't getting it anyway.

Nicole Ortiz34 said:Who even asked you?! I’m eating and living my life exactly how I want, and I’m definitely not just doing things for the sake of it. If I actually knew someone who had surgery with him, I wouldn't be hunting for answers here! I’m just gathering info the best way I know how, trying to make sure I actually pick someone smart this time. div>

Okay, my bad, seriously—I don't know what's gotten into me, I guess the waiting game is finally getting to my nerves. (Been searching for two years now and I just want to be smart about it this time), don't be mad at me. 🙂
I think I’m going to go for an "interview" with Vance. 😁 I’ll hit him with questions that will keep him busy for months 😵—not just basic amateur stuff, but asking about his past work, which specific types of surgeries he thinks he’s the absolute king of, and whether he became an ENT because he’s chasing the money or if he actually gives a damn about helping patients. I need to see who’s legit, even if I have to poke around a bit, because my relatives are pushing one guy on me, but there are like ten different ENTs in town, so it could be anyone. When I listen to other people's stories, it just makes me more skeptical.
Becker has been getting some hype too, so I’ll probably dig into him as well, though one woman said to steer clear of him without even saying what her actual issue was, which is what drives me crazy about this thread—everyone posts, but they leave out the most important details. Every woman seems to compliment him, acting like everything is perfect just because he’s a total sweetheart. Like, is breathing actually okay, ladies?
The guys here don't write much, maybe because the women dominate the conversation, and honestly, I don't even know what I'm doing here myself, haha.
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Anyway...
It still feels totally illogical to me that nobody mentions functional improvements—like, which doctor actually solved the underlying problem. Maybe that’s why those greedy ones exist, people who took the risk and fixed themselves without any help. If that’s how the world works today, why don't we just shut down this stupid topic and let doctors play Russian roulette? ☕
By the way, if anyone is following my updates, Guzin isn't on the list at the local hospital based on the names I saw on the clinic doors yesterday. I snapped a photo of them; maybe he's an internist over at Vineyard or maybe it's actually Gudelj.
Google search: "Dr. Goran Gudelj, ENT department at the local hospital, an incredibly skilled and kind doctor who puts his patients above everything else."
I asked a colleague from the hospital who had a great experience, but he hasn't gotten back to me yet. Shoot me a DM if you really need the info. That's all I've got for this thread for now.

Hey, just dropping in to share some wisdom since I’m feeling pretty enlightened today... My older cousin, who's about 45, just told me with total confidence that if anyone's dealing with sinus issues or a stuffed nose, you should basically just go eat a salad. Seriously, if you care about looking decent, maybe check with your doctor first to see if they actually do that, but personally, I'm just happy with my results =P. As long as it fixes my stamina and kills these headaches so I can finally feel like I'm flying again, I'm good.

Nicole Ortiz34 said:Anyone here ever gone under the knife with Dr. Dave Grohl? Curious if anyone’s actually dealt with him before.

Nicole Ortiz34 said:I was wondering if anyone here has actually gone under the knife with Dave Grohl?

Look, no offense intended, but when are you actually going to stop venting about this topic? It’s getting old, and honestly, nobody is stepping up to help me either. You should probably just track down someone on here who’s had surgery with Dave Grohl and hit them up privately; I’m planning on doing the exact same thing because I’d rather wait for some actual intel than just sit here spinning my wheels doing nothing. I’ve been hoarding all the info I can find on him in a Notepad file, so I'll send it over to you tonight, though I can't make any promises.
So I'm sitting here at my checkup with the Holy Spirit right now, and they’ve gone ahead and scheduled all of us for 10:00 AM sharp. Honestly, what an absolute joke.
Hey there.

Robin Foster5 said:I had my septum repaired two years ago, and honestly, it felt even more stuffed up than before... so a year later, I went back under the knife... and now my nose is more clogged than ever. Plus, there’s this constant, unpleasant smell lingering around that I can't quite pin down, and frankly, it's creeping me out. I went to see a doctor and laid it all out for him, but he just shrugged and told me my septum looks perfectly straight, claiming he can't see what the issue is! Meanwhile, I can barely draw a breath through my nose. It feels like someone shoved cotton swabs deep inside my nostrils and left them there... it's a total disaster. And yeah, I had the surgery performed by Doctor Parasite, for crying out loud.

Look, I don't trust a guy like Parasite... personally, I’m thinking you might be dealing with nasal polyps, though I have no clue how they missed that during an exam—maybe their tech isn't exactly cutting edge? Usually, you should be able to spot something like that immediately without even needing an endoscope in simpler cases, so this whole situation is just bizarre. It’s possible you overdid it with the nasal sprays and ended up thickening the turbinates or damaging the cilia; some guy over in the Forest told me that happens. There's actually a therapy involving electrodes that get inserted into those turbinates to shrink them down—I think they do that here in America—so it might be worth looking into. If you've got inflamed membranes, I'd suggest using a saline spray once or twice a day if you suffer from allergies, but really, it could be anything. Allergies are everywhere, and food sensitivities can trigger them too. People swell up from allergies all the time. bbt 😁
I remember catching a weird smell myself right after they pulled my packing out, but that cleared up after maybe a day or two. My buddy's nose finally started working properly after years of bacteria and junk building up inside. Maybe you've got some buildup or infection in your sinuses; try rinsing with a saline solution if you can. I can't really do it myself, but I try to rinse out the crustiness every single day because if I didn't, I probably would have to.

I’m looking to jump into some DMs with someone who is... I'm feeling pretty damn good, honestly. So, I just wrapped up my septoplasty over at the Mayo Clinic, and honestly? I’m feeling pretty damn incredible. It’s hard to even put into words that sensation of finally being able to breathe properly—it’s like I’ve got this constant surge of energy and pure willpower just flowing through me again. My fitness levels are through the roof, too. But if I’m being totally real, more than anything else, I’m just incredibly stoked to still be kicking around. Hallelujah!
I’ve got some photos of this septum issue I'm dealing with uploaded over on Facebook, so if anyone wants to dive into a discussion and help me out, feel free to reach out—let's connect on Skype or Facebook. I have a pretty solid grasp of exactly what needs to happen to fix this, but honestly, the real question is whether my doctor actually has the skills to pull it off right. That's the part that keeps me guessing.
Listen, I’m asking nicely here—keep it strictly to the guys. No need to make this complicated, just address me like one of the bros. Look, if you're talking about functional issues, I don't care one bit about the cosmetic rhinoplasty stuff—just give me the septoplasty. My nose has this 5mm slant off the midline of the septum, so I'm basically banking on that being fixed. Everything’s looking fresh and lively again—you can practically see that glow reflecting right off people's faces.Honestly, I’m just going to draw up a diagram for these doctors to show them exactly where they messed up, because apparently, I have to spell out the basics for people who are paid to actually do their jobs. It’s simple: just listen to the patient for once. I’m looking for absolute, perfect symmetry in my nose and septum this time around, so do me a favor and drop some recommendations in the comments. Who are the specialists you actually trust? You know, the ones you’d go back to in a heartbeat because they actually get it right the first time? Give me your best leads.
Yeah, maybe... I think I might have a polyp growing in my left nostril because I spotted this weird white, elongated thing way back in there. I really don't want to end up having to go under the knife all over again, you know? Does that clinic actually have those fancy, high-tech CT scanners or whatever they call them now? Also, does the scanning happen before the follow-up appointment? And honestly, how long am I going to be stuck in the waiting room for an exam?
So, what kind of tech are they actually running over there? Seriously, has anyone actually seen it up close? I’m dying to know the specifics. If anyone out there has the spare time and the patience to walk me through this, I’m more than happy to pay you cash in hand once I see some actual progress. Honestly, money isn't really my main concern here—I'm just being practical because, at this point, this feels like my only real way out. Hell. Health? Honestly, I don't find much luck in that department myself, but if anyone actually needs a hand, I won't be the type to hold out on them. $333I might drop like $2,000 or something—honestly, it just depends on how much I’m feeling generous—on a new acquaintance or a friend I've just met. It could be anything useful, you know? A new iPhone, a decent camera, a big-screen TV... whatever they actually need. But look, that's only if this whole deal actually goes through and stays on track. I'm being dead serious about that part.
I honestly don't know how I'm expected to function like this. Between the constant headaches and this crushing pressure in my head, I’m basically a walking zombie—totally sleep-deprived, like I’ve never actually slept a wink in my life. I don't dream, I don't remember anything, and my short-term memory is just shot, which makes learning anything new feel impossible. I've completely lost interest in my hobbies and everything I used to do; I just sit around the house because I have zero stamina left. If I try to be active for even a couple of hours, I’m totally wiped out. On top of that, there's the chronic depression, the endless stress, and this constant tension. I'm never relaxed, not even for a second. Even when I went in for an EKG, I couldn't even find a way to chill out enough for the test. Then there's the breathing situation. I end up mouth-breathing all night, and even though I try to breathe through my nose during the day, I feel like I can't even get enough air when I'm out around people. Honestly, with the smog levels in the city lately, I wonder if there's even any oxygen left to breathe. I get motion sickness from cars too, so driving is out of the question for now, which sucks because who’s going to hire someone without a license? My concentration is trashed, I’m hyper-sensitive to light and noise, and my hearing is so sharp it's almost overwhelming—kind of like how some kids on the spectrum experience things. I’m constantly wearing headphones just to block out the world. My sense of smell is messed up, too. I have zero appetite; I barely feel hungry twice a year, so I usually just eat once a day. My throat and tongue always feel bone-dry, and if I don't chug a whole bottle of water, I feel like I’m going to suffocate. It’s like I can't even taste fresh air anymore because of this total blockage in my sinuses. I tried inhaling essential oils for my sinuses once, and for maybe ten seconds, I could finally breathe like an elephant—I can't even describe how happy that made me or how much clarity it brought to my head. After I had the flu and was dealing with a mountain of congestion, I stepped out of my apartment building and felt what actual "fresh air" feels like for the first time, but that feeling vanished instantly, probably because of that deviated septum I developed last fall. Add in the blood pressure issues while trying to fall asleep, and the fact that I struggle to drift off at all, and it's a nightmare. I had a bout of frontal sinusitis once, and honestly, the pain was so brutal and cruel I just wanted to end it all. This is just my daily reality. Living like this is terrifying, and I honestly don't know how much longer I can hold it together, especially knowing everything gets worse the longer my breathing stays broken. I'm just looking for some actual, serious advice from anyone here who knows what they're talking about.

So, here’s the lowdown on what they’re actually planning to pull off:
Look, I can personally vouch for two doctors over in the Saint Spirit area—I only spent about a week getting to know the folks around there, but hey, that's enough time for me to know exactly what I'm talking about.
God bless, because Dr. Smith is basically the Law. I was chatting with this new acquaintance of mine who had a consultation with him, and honestly, he’s a bit of a larger-than-life character—I think that’s how I first pegged him during our visit. I can't quite recall the second time we met because my memory is shot and I didn't jot it down, but I remember him checking my nose from ear to ear, cracking things into place, and I could tell just by looking at him that the guy had totally turned his life around—he looked like a whole new man compared to what I remembered six days ago.
I actually typed "Guzina-Guzina" into my phone as a little nickname, then did a quick Google search and realized Smith is definitely the real deal, so you should probably look up the reviews yourself. As for me, I’m done playing doctor; I’m just going to walk through that hospital for follow-ups. I put way too much faith in the doctor who initially examined me, and now here I am, stuck in the hospital for seven days like an idiot, staring out the window and dealing with these killer headaches.
His experience was wild: he kept saying it felt "like flying," gesturing all over his body to show everyone how incredible he felt everywhere.
Robin Foster is planning to see him, and honestly, I haven't heard a single bad thing about him. Then again, everything depends on how complicated the case is, you know? Even on those medical review sites, you see plenty of lucky people who went to him and had great results.
But my experience with M. Miljenko Kovacic? I wouldn't recommend him to anyone, even if they were paying me. If you already have an appointment booked and you get the vibe that he’s missing something or just being shady, just cancel. It’s better to bail than to deal with someone who insists on doing things their own way regardless of the patient. I guess I'm partially to blame because the headaches were so relentless I felt like I couldn't catch a break, so I had to give him a shot. But seriously, stay away from doctors you don't know—just don't go to strangers, period. My nose was hurting so bad I thought I wouldn't make it to my scheduled date, and I even spent two days in the hospital running a fever of 99.5, which nobody bothered to explain to me. If you aren't working closely with your doctor as a team, you probably won't achieve anything, it’s proven. I said everything I needed to say to him and, well, screw it (I won't get into the gritty details just to grab headlines).

Anyway, I’ve got another surgery coming up in about five months, which is why I’m rambling about this. Don't try to tell me to wait for my nose and tip to settle down, because he barely did anything at all; looking at the facts, it’ll look exactly the same in six months as it does now. This is a structural issue, not just some allergy thing.
I see other people posting about having gone back two or three times, so please, tell me who the absolute best is based on your own firsthand experience. Shoot me a private message telling me exactly what they had to fix so I can figure out if it's the same thing I need. I also need to know if they used open technique on you, which surgeons specialize in that, and whether the scarring ends up under the upper lip or between the nostrils, and if the scar is even noticeable...
Please, someone reach out. I just need two or three people with real experiences; I seriously can't live like this, these headaches are going to destroy me. (I'm exclusively looking at the clinic in the downtown area since most people mention it. If this is an old thread, just hit me up whenever—I need actual intel from people, not nurses saying "oh, he's great"... any specific experience or a name of a top-tier surgeon would genuinely help me out).
Thanks for reading my vent session, ugh.

wanderingnomad13 said:I don't get it. I was breathing perfectly fine today, especially after I finished cleaning everything up... But then I started tidying again and now my nose has started bleeding a little and my right nostril is clogged up again, while the left one is working just fine. It makes zero sense. What am I doing wrong here, and how am I supposed to fix this? 😢

First things first, you really need to figure out what exactly triggers your allergies. I'm talking everything—food, pets, even those weirdly soft stuffed animals that women seem to love so much. Get the full list sorted before anything goes sideways. 😁Clothing, weeds, grass, wormwood... honestly, it’s all just noise. One doctor told me there could be like a thousand different reasons why your nasal lining gets inflamed. Everyone’s body is wired differently, so you really have to play detective yourself to figure out what’s actually triggering the blockage. It’s the same deal with me—I get one or two crusty bits and then a little bit of bleeding. Just one of those things, I guess.

So... does anyone actually have some real-world experience with Dr. Miljenko Kovacic? I’ve been doing some digging, but honestly, everything I find is a total dead end. Word on the street is that he’s not exactly great, but when I actually sat down and talked to him, he seemed like a genuine workaholic who actually gives a damn about what he does. Now I’m stuck in this weird limbo, second-guessing everything. I'm low-key stressing that I might end up being the next one facing a massive audit because of this.

feralhound18 said:Alright, give me the list of names—who’s actually cool and who’s a total disaster?
Aside from that doctor who can't seem to get anything right, this other guy is actually Miljenko Kovacic.😉
I've heard two names recommended—Dr. Mladina over in Charlotte and Esad Avdagić up in the Holy Spirit area.
Does anyone actually know anything about them?
And then there's also the chief of staff, Dr. Munitic, over at Mercury.

mellowcobra8 said:I’m mostly a left-side sleeper too, and I had no clue it was actually bad for you. I’m definitely interested in those options through insurance, but let’s be real—everyone in this thread seems like they grew up with trust funds, so they probably never gave it a second thought; they just had Dad hand over the cash and call it a day.
Those of us without those kinds of resources just have to sit tight and deal with it.
Anyway, everyone I talk to says it’s possible to get a rhinoplasty covered by insurance if you play it right, but my big worry is that since I won't be paying out of pocket, the surgeon might just do a sloppy job. I want them to actually fix it and maybe even shorten it by half, 😂 and potentially take out some cartilage because of all the boxing I do.
But it feels like nobody here can actually share real experiences because everyone went the private route with cash. Can someone at least tell me where the cheapest place is versus the most expensive, and how long I have to stay away from getting hit in the face after the surgery? 🤣(I do Muay Thai, though I'm taking a break right now.)

Honestly, looking at this thread, it’s just a bunch of daddy’s little princesses complaining about their nose profiles, like, "oh nooo, my nose!" It’s like they haven't actually worked for anything in their lives... there's like twenty pages of women just rambling, and this whole topic feels kind of useless since there are maybe three or four guys here whom nobody is even responding to. We probably need a separate thread just for the guys.
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The only bad thing is that I totally forgot the exact consequences, but the main thing is that whenever I fall asleep after a long day of people buzzing in my ear, I always end up curling up. I probably do it thinking it'll help regulate my blood pressure or something, so blood reaches my brain faster... then I lie right on that side above my heart. :S I remember seeing on an Oz episode that if you don't have enough space in your chest, your heart can basically "hang" and get compressed if you sleep on that side, which is probably why I feel so exhausted due to a messed up circadian rhythm and lack of sleep.

"Anyway, everyone I talk to says it’s possible to get a rhinoplasty covered by insurance if you play it right, but my big worry is that since I won't be paying out of pocket, the surgeon might just do a sloppy job. I want them to actually fix it and maybe even shorten it by half, 😂 and potentially take out some cartilage because of all the boxing I do."

-I went down to the Social Security office today and found out that it is possible to get it done for free if you're unemployed and don't exceed certain income thresholds ($505 per month, based on household income/dependents). You’ll have to go down there and ask about the specific paperwork yourself, though. I think the lady mentioned it takes about a month to process the card, so I should probably get on top of it ASAP... I'm not 100% sure on every detail because my memory is shot and my concentration is trash lately. 🤔
-They gave me a stack of papers that both my parents and I have to fill out, along with copies of our IDs and stuff. It looks like a massive headache; I don't have the patience or the mental energy to keep spinning my wheels and only finishing half of everything.

Also, regarding that "boxing" thing, I was thinking about it the other day—for people who take heavy hits constantly, the nose really takes the brunt of it. You really need to consult with several ENT doctors about what you actually want done. Your nose is the centerpiece of your face; you can't just rip out the whole cartilage because that's what holds the shape against the bone. You could maybe lower the bridge slightly toward your lip so it isn't so prominent, but you don't want to end up with a facial trauma. You know best how you want to look, so don't go looking for advice—think it through yourself first (we're all our own best advisors, haha). A guy back in my old neighborhood once told me that if you have the cash, private clinics will do whatever you want on the spot, but if you're going the free hospital route, it all depends on the doctor, how much work it is, and whether your nasal passages are already ruined from using too many decongestant sprays, as I was saying. 😵

She gave me this other option where I could just open the policy and pay $27 under a 12-month contract, basically cancel it after 6, and then there’s some extra 3-month thing going on, making it effectively 9 months. (which is $240)
I asked her if that would cover the medical stuff, and she said yeah, but honestly, I’m not totally sold on it. Plus, they’re constantly tweaking regulations—you know how it is, they’ll probably "improve" things for us too, or whatever. Since my hospital admission is exactly 2 months from today, I figure it’s safer to just get the policy set up and stop stressing, unless it ends up being useless for my specific situation.
What really gets to me is that I don't actually know the people who are going to be performing the surgery on me. I have zero trust in anything someone else does for you; they aren't doing it for themselves, so they couldn't care less about the details. If it were up to me, I’d just operate on myself.

In about 4 months, I’m going to start a blog with all my info and tags so people can actually find it. I want to help folks avoid suffering for months on end and fix things ASAP, because oxygen deprivation IRREVERSIBLY damages brain cells. It all comes down to when people finally connect the dots between their symptoms and the nose—just like it took me three whole years of dead ends to realize it was the nose.
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Believe it or not, about 60% of aggression stems from the fact that people simply don't know how to breathe correctly.
The brain is an organ that demands three times more oxygen than any other part of the body, and if it isn't getting enough, it starts scavenging it from your other organs, putting them under massive strain. This lack of oxygen in the brain causes all sorts of imbalances—brain fog, memory issues, irritability, depression—which is why so many people these days feel completely burnt out, both physically and mentally. Our brains are starving, and oxygen is the food we use to satisfy that hunger.

When we were kids, we breathed naturally—using our bellies and utilizing our full lung capacity. But most adults lose that habit, and our breath becomes shallow and short while our lung capacity shrinks. With this kind of shallow breathing, the body actually burns more energy just trying to expand the chest than it would with abdominal breathing, and you’re only ever filling up the top third of your lungs.

With abdominal breathing, when you inhale, the diaphragm pulls downward, causing the abdomen to expand. This actually massages your internal organs and allows you to use your full lung capacity while using way less energy to breathe. This type of breathing supports the circulatory system and takes the pressure off your heart, especially since about two-thirds of your blood sits in the abdominal area; by massaging those organs through abdominal breathing, it acts like a secondary pump to help drive blood throughout the body.

Proper breathing is the master key to resolving many health issues, unlocking our mental potential, and being happier and more creative in everything we do. By doing this, we aren't just helping ourselves; we're projecting a more positive energy toward the people around us.

Anthony White3 said:I actually quit using nasal drops about a year before my surgery. My doctor didn't even realize I'd been using them, but honestly, it didn't matter because he could see the deviation immediately. I went through the system at the local University Hospital—if you have supplemental insurance, the surgery ends up being free. You stay in the hospital for five days post-op, then they pull the tampons out and you're out the door. From the outside, you can't tell I had anything done; there wasn't even any bruising. The only annoying thing left is these crusts that get pretty large and settle in deep, making them a pain to blow out. After getting discharged, I just stuck to some Maxitrol drops and Flonase spray. I think mucotome is just removing the mucosa, but I'm not entirely sure why they bother doing that part.

Hey, so my sister, who works at the community health clinic, mentioned last year that they scrapped supplemental insurance coverage for people who are unemployed.
That basically means after all these free checkups, I'm going to be staring down a massive bill for the remaining appointments,
like those ten standard ones, the anesthesiologist, and then this damn surgery? I don't know where I'm supposed to find that kind of cash :S. Even the nurse at the University Hospital was acting surprised and lecturing me about having to pay co-pays when I don't even have a job right now 😢 (I've got state insurance through the unemployment office, so it should cover everything)
And here I am, acting like a total idiot trying to navigate the hospital system for months just to dodge fees, but I'm terrified the price tag is going to hit me like a heart valve surgery did...
Btw, I'm also heading to the University Hospital in three months. I'm in the same boat as that guy from four years ago who took a pretty heavy hit to the face during a workout 😢, so it looks like I'll need to check if my unemployment benefits include supplemental coverage this year and figure out what these guys are charging. Honestly, I'm losing my mind; everywhere I turn, it's a dead end. To top it off, I've started getting these heart pains, muscle cramps at night, and I can only sleep on my left side, which I read is bad for you... It feels like I'm just waiting for things to go south. 😢

Hey, has anyone here actually gone through a septum surgery at Holy Spirit Hospital? Feel free to shoot me a DM if you want to chat privately about it.

Here’s what I’d stay away from:
Private clinics like the ones over on Ilica
-They just give you a bunch of fine print to dodge responsibility when the surgery doesn't work out, so they're pretty sketchy.
Rebro K. B. C M.i.s.l.a.v G.j.u.r.i.ć
-The waitlist there is insane—like 11 months. No sane person wants to sit around waiting through an entire summer and a year just to get seen.🙄
Dubrava K.B.D I.v.i.c.a Č.i.r.č.i.ć 🧐
-Long story short, unless you've been through some serious trauma (I have, but I'm keeping that to myself), it's probably not worth your time.
Zajčeva K.B Merkur L.a.j.t.m.a.n
-I heard from a guy that his sister had surgery done by him, and things went south fast. Looking at the posts on this forum, it sounds like she suffered so much after the procedure that even he felt bad for her. Now she's terrified and doesn't trust him at all; she told me she's absolutely livid because they totally botched it.
Just imagine having to live with that for three years when the results are even worse than whatever you were complaining about in the first place. Be careful. 🤷

I haven't checked out the hospital over on Vinogradska yet, but it looks like everyone else is heading there. ☕
A little tip for better breathing if nothing else seems to be working:
If you've got a deviated septum combined with swollen membranes because of allergies, my go-to move is to pour some saline solution into an empty spray bottle. Tilt your head back for about two minutes until the solution hits the back of your throat, then blow your nose. If that doesn't cut it, do it again. It really helps dial down the irritation and significantly reduces the swelling in the turbinates and everything else inside. Honestly, I'm surprised by how well this works for me. 😁
I felt this sudden burst of energy today, not entirely sure where it came from. I can't even imagine how hyperactive I'll feel once everything is fully functioning. 🤣🤣🤣🤣