And honestly, I can't stand seeing those official system messages from the site in English, even though my English is perfectly fine. I’m just not going to take any requests to switch the forum over to American seriously until they actually bother to translate all those other automated posts too.
Look, I mean, how am I even supposed to talk to my fellow Americans here—am I stuck only using private messages? Am I gonna get my posts nuked or end up getting banned just because I use my native tongue? I really don't want to be forced into typing in some language that isn't my first one, even if I actually enjoy using American. If I were running some random online forum in the States, I definitely wouldn't be forcing some foreigner to write in English if it wasn't their primary language.
Hey everyone! Looking at rustydrifter10's post here, I honestly feel like there are two much better ways to handle this than just hitting the delete button on everything: 1. Just move those posts over to the dedicated thread for the Bulgarian language. 2. Or, even better, pull those Bulgarian posts out and start their own separate threads where people can actually chat in Bulgarian. What do you guys think about those ideas? Thanks a bunch!
Hey everyone! So, I noticed that while some of the automated messages from the vBulletin software have been translated into American English, most of the system-generated stuff is still stuck in standard English (for instance, I got my birthday greeting in English, and a few other users mentioned that penalty points or ban notifications are also still in English). I totally get that translating every single official vBulletin message is a massive headache, but is there any actual plan to eventually translate all those automated system messages into American English? Is this actually a huge hurdle? It feels like a bit of an issue to me because there are people out there who aren't fluent in English or just don't want to see it popping up in notifications from an American website. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks in advance!
Man, I actually got a birthday shoutout from the guys over at Reddit in English. It felt kinda weird, honestly—like, why am I getting an English greeting when this whole community is supposed to be local?
rustydrifter10 said:Most of the time, it just comes down to how the moderator sees things, and honestly, that's exactly what happened here. If you drop a post in a different language or script on a thread titled "Our Language," it’s just not gonna fly because most people won't even know what you're saying, plus it's against the rules. You can find all the specifics about why that is in the thread linked above—which, if I recall, was actually started by you.
I guess I really should've just sent a DM instead of replying directly to the thread, since it feels totally weird to respond to someone from my own neck of the woods in any language other than our native one, you know? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the American language, but in a situation like this, I'd much rather use something else. My bad if I caused any headaches. Usually, when I'm talking to my Bulgarian buddies, I'll just hit them up privately if the message is basically just for them, mostly because I don't want to feel forced to stick to American in a public forum setting.
So what’s the actual logic here then: how do you even decide which posts that break the rules get to stay up and earn someone a ban, and which ones just get tossed in the trash?
Look, I totally get that my previous post wasn't exactly top-tier, but seriously, why does it have to be nuked entirely? It feels like it would be way more productive to just leave it up and slap a warning on it if it actually crossed a line. Why go through the whole hassle of scrubbing it from the site? Is someone actually going to drop dead because of what I wrote?
Hey everyone! So, I just had one of my posts wiped from the "Our Word" thread over in the Linguistics subforum, and the reasoning they gave me was that I used a foreign script that most people here can't actually read. Look, I totally get that I messed up—I know we aren't supposed to be dropping foreign languages or different alphabets in here unless there's some super specific exception—but I honestly don't get why the whole post was nuked instead of just getting a warning or being flagged. It feels like saying a message is "unintelligible" to the majority isn't a big enough deal to justify deleting the entire thing, you know? Even if most folks can't parse it, there's always a small group of users who would find it perfectly clear and maybe even useful, so having it there shouldn't really be hurting anyone unless it’s actively making things a mess for everyone else. Could someone please walk me through why my post was such a huge issue that it deserved to be completely erased? Is it because it's genuinely distracting, or are you guys worried it'll kick off a whole debate in another language within that specific thread, or is it something else entirely? Thanks in advance!
If it’s super obvious that some foreigner wrote the post, are they actually going to go in and fix all those mistakes? Or does it honestly not even matter if the person behind the keyboard is an American or someone from abroad?
Thanks so much for taking out the trash and neutralizing that spammer! I was wondering, though—did this user get banned from some other forum for spamming and then just moved over to the ban corner because it was the only way they could still find a way to post on the site?
Hey everyone! So, I noticed this one banned user—you know, the one with that totally nonsensical string of letters and numbers for a username—is absolutely flooding the ban corner with spam threads in English. I’ve already flagged a few of them, but honestly, I was feeling way too lazy to go through and report every single one of those endless posts myself. Is there any way we can actually shut this spam down? Since the user is already sitting in the ban corner, I'm wondering if there are any other moves we can make to deal with this problematic person once and for all. Thanks in advance!
And why haven't I or anyone else been slapped with a warning for using a "non-American" language? Is the admin team actually planning on handing out cards for posts written in unknown languages on threads that were opened in English?
Brian Edwards78 said:Honestly, there’s just no difference in the end—I mean, look, the vast majority, if not pretty much everyone who happens to see a post like that, is just gonna scroll right past it without a second thought. In the real world, that basically means you're just shouting into the void and talking to yourself since nobody actually cares about what you've written. And you gotta ask yourself, if that's how it works, does the whole idea of even using an online forum to communicate even make any sense anymore? 🤷
I honestly think it all comes down to how people communicate online these days—it’s just too easy to be lazy. If someone posts something that looks even slightly boring or a little too dense to wrap your head around, you just blow right past it and keep scrolling, even if you probably could have grasped the gist of it with just a tiny bit more effort. I just can't wrap my brain around comparing a post written in a language similar to mine—something where I could totally follow along if I actually sat down and focused for a second—to a post written in some language that feels like it's from a completely different planet. With those, there’s just nothing to work with; no matter how much I stare at the screen, I'm never going to decipher it, no matter how hard I try.
Thanks a ton, rustydrifter10! So, what you're saying is I can totally post in Bulgarian in the specific thread dedicated to that language, but if I try using it anywhere else on the forum, I'm gonna run into trouble because you guys have issues with my native tongue. And honestly, isn't Cyrillic pretty much a staple for the older generations over here? I mean, I can barely even communicate with my own people in any language other than Bulgarian, so wouldn't it be way more convenient to just shoot private messages to other Bulgarians instead of cluttering up the main threads, right? And don't you think there's actually a massive difference between writing in Bulgarian versus using those other languages I mentioned, or some totally random language that has zero connection to American? At the end of the day, are you seriously telling me you wouldn't just instantly ban someone for spamming in an unfamiliar language without at least taking a second to look at what they actually wrote first?
Look, Brian Edwards78, I was posting in a language that’s super similar to American English—it’s definitely not some totally incomprehensible gibberish to American forum members (at least the ones who can actually follow the dialect). Plus, I was replying directly to another Bulgarian user in that thread (and honestly, I’m not even 100% sure if we’re the only two Bulgarians on this whole site), so using our shared native tongue just felt totally natural. Are you seriously telling me you don't understand a word of Bulgarian? My whole point was about what happens when someone drops a post in a language that the "average American" wouldn't be able to make heads or tails of without spending months studying it (and yeah, I mentioned examples of those kinds of languages, since there are thousands of them out there). Just imagine how massive the headache would be if I had actually written that post in one of those "completely unintelligible" languages. I'm betting it would be a total nightmare, like, a thousand times more problematic than anything involving Bulgarian.🙂
rustydrifter10 said:Basically, we don't allow people posting in foreign languages like the ones you mentioned, though we might make exceptions here and there depending on the situation. It’s all case-by-case, really—it’s one thing if someone is just flooding the place with Mandarin spam, but totally different if it's just a single post. Just send over the links to whatever posts are bothering you and we'll take a look.
Look, I haven't actually run into anything like that yet, I was just asking theoretically. Honestly, I feel like the first step should always be checking out the user's post history, but I am 99.9999% certain that any posts in those "exotic" languages are just some bot spamming the site, because let's be real, no actual human being would bother posting on this forum in a language that nobody else can even read. So, are there any "approved foreign languages" allowed on the forum at all?
northerncyclist2 said:I mean, seriously, what is the forum admin team actually going to do if gas prices spike overnight? What’s the game plan if the Secretary of the Treasury decides to sell off the Interstate Highway System? Or what happens if Russia refuses to give Snowden an alibi? What if some guy's iPad dies right when he needs to run his business taxes? What if some fisherman fails to catch a trophy bass? What if it rains? What if gas prices actually drop? What if axes just start falling from the sky? Oh, almighty forum administration, I am begging you for answers to these absolutely critical questions ☕
Look, I don't see any reason to joke around here because, unlike all that crazy stuff you just listed, the kind of posts I was talking about actually have a direct impact on how this forum functions. So, my question is: is having posts show up in a language nobody understands actually a problem for the site's operation?
Hey everyone! I was just wondering if the forum admins would actually step in if someone signed up and started flooding the boards with posts in a language most of us here can't even wrap our heads around—like, say, Turkish, Arabic, or Mandarin? If that actually happened, how would you guys handle it? Would we be looking at an instant ban, some warnings, having the posts wiped clean, or something else entirely? And honestly, would you even bother checking what the person is actually saying—maybe running it through Google Translate or some other tool? Or would you just assume they're some spammer or troll and hit them with the ban hammer without even glancing at the content? Thanks in advance!