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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
analogheron19 said:Well, except for maybe our ages, I suppose you could address me like a child, if you really wanted to, believe me on that

Actually, you can't justify that by anything at all...
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Jose Lopez9 said:I mean, who else is there left to talk to? Everything is pretty obvious at this point! But honestly, in fifteen years, nobody is going to be asking about who funded what or who didn't anymore. This season is going to be incredibly tough for you guys. They’re operating at "full throttle," as they say, while you're all just stuck watching from the sidelines... I suppose it’s time to go all in or nothing at all. Though, I guess I'm just shouting into the void of an online forum here. 🙂

What do you mean by "all or nothing"?

Could you maybe explain that?
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Eric Phillips52;50717573 said:
Peter Robinson21 said:I honestly don't know who you are, but if we have met before, then you probably know I've always been the type of guy to march to the beat of my own drum; I’ve never really been one to just drift along with the crowd... back when there was the Boycott... I was actually one of the first people to stand up for everyone else, even though most people around me—and I mean the majority of folks I knew who ended up moving out East—were telling me, "Man, this is just foolishness." But, well, I suppose one goes along with a boycott... fast forward a year later, and everyone can see that the boycott didn't achieve a single thing... I remember saying back in June of that year, "Look, the boycott hasn't brought anything to the table, maybe we need to try a different path"... and that’s when the threats started coming at me, things like, "You're against us," or "You're against the association," and so on... all I said was, "It didn't work, let's try something else"... which led to the group deciding in August that "the boycott is over" and it was time to start going to games again... some people thought we should only go to MLS matches, while others argued we should attend every single game... personally, I decided to just head out with the same crew I've been going to matches with for twenty years... if one goes, they all go... so there I am, standing in the stands at the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium in Madrid, surrounded by a bunch of guys I know who acted like they were part of the boycott during the Champions League (even though they were still showing up to Champions League and EL matches while I stayed home during the boycott period itself)...QUOTE]

You and EVERYONE else like you—the ones who kept showing up to games during the boycott, whether it was MLS or European matches—are absolute bottom-feeders. That includes both the ones who made themselves known and those who tried to hide. You are truly a disgrace of human beings. Can you even look yourselves in the mirror knowing you turned your backs on the group? You spat in the faces of your comrades and sided with the very people trying to shut down the Bad Boys. And yet, you still have the nerve to stand in the North Stand acting all neutral. Honestly, what a massive collection of morally bankrupt individuals.

... if you haven't read carefully, I didn't go to any games during the boycott period... but since you're so incredibly bright, I went ahead and bolded that part just for you... perhaps you missed it, or maybe you just weren't reading properly... so yeah...

And if those who hid are such huge pieces of trash, then maybe you should just head out East and say that to their faces, because some of them are still living right among you...
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
analogheron19 said:You’re being ridiculous.
I asked you how many times you’ve been arrested in recent years just trying to make it to a game. I’m not talking about any legal trouble or anything—just a straight-up attempt to show up for my favorite club.
You really picked the wrong person to talk down to. Up until now, I’ve tolerated some of your nonsense because, regardless of our differences, I’ve given you a pass on pretty much everything, but from here on out, you’re officially on my radar.

Since I have to answer you one more time, I told you to just read what I wrote... after the match in Madrid, I decided I wasn't going to the stadium anymore... so I've actually been at every single game in the West stands... if you had bothered to read my previous posts, you would know that, and you wouldn't be asking this question again...

I wasn't talking down to you... that’s just your own interpretation... and honestly, why should I care if I'm under your "radar"? You aren't exactly a major figure in my life ;-)

I think people tend to make themselves the center of attention a bit too much in these discussions... I'm really not that important, nor is my opinion... just like your opinion of me doesn't matter, whether you think you're vital to this whole thing or not...

By the way, I don't know how old you are, but calling me a "kid" is a bit much since I'm a little past that stage... you could have said "grandpa" or "old man," but calling me a kid just isn't quite right ;-) ☕
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
analogheron19 said:You didn't answer my question, so I’m asking you again: how many times have you been arrested while entering the stadium or traveling abroad in recent years, and how many citations did you rack up?
Of course, there are millions of clubs where ownership changes hands and fans stay loyal, but I don't think there is a single case where a club does everything in its power—including illegal things—to destroy the private and professional lives of its own supporters. Where they selectively leak clips, incite local clubs and domestic police against them, or where customs officials personally call ambassadors of the countries we play in and threaten them if they help their own citizens in any way. There isn't a single stadium in the world where home fans endure this kind of torture, where people are arrested just for sitting in the wrong seats, where hundreds of people are blacklisted without a valid reason, or where fans on their own terrace are surrounded by cordons of riot police. Where players are punished not if they fail to greet their fans, but specifically because they *do* greet them... there isn't a single club in the world that defends its legends from being banned just because those legends advocated for following the law or allowing members to exercise their legal rights...
By tomorrow, you could probably write an entire thesis on the anomalies involving the former leadership, but by heading north, you are actually supporting everything mentioned above.

If you had bothered to read my previous posts, you would already have your answer regarding where I’ve been for the last two years; I really don't feel like repeating myself... though, if you truly insist on knowing how many times I've been arrested... well, in the North, maybe three times, including two days spent in a cell. Abroad, I was arrested once, but I was released. In Germany, I've been arrested several times; last year I went to court and received a three-year suspended sentence after I knocked out two Chelsea hooligans during the Champions League final between Bayern Munich and Chelsea FC in Munich...

Do you want me to list every single brawl I've participated in, you absolute idiot?

But fine, you have a point; perhaps there isn't an exact identical case, but the idea of sending the cops to a home game, treating fans like criminals, stripping them down, or hitting them with extra doses of protection happens elsewhere too. Maybe it isn't quite as massive as what happens at our stadium, but it exists... I condemn it, certainly...

And as for my reasons for not going East anymore, I've already written that—no repeats...

@neighbor

Who told you I wasn't there?

Honestly, you're the only one who looks ridiculous here, because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about or what actually happened... you're just posturing for no reason, trying to act smart when you're actually acting like a complete fool.

@Jacob Price23/">@@Jacob Price23

Well, the first example is Uli Hoeneß, who at the start of his career as a manager was trading players here and there and got incredibly wealthy at Bayern Munich through his own companies. If you saw which Company is selling junk at the Allianz Arena or even back at the Olympic Stadium, then you would know how much that guy made at Bayern over the last 30 years... he isn't as extreme as Zdravko Mamić, but in principle, it's the same thing; he got rich off certain players and his sausages, and generally, his friends and former teammates got in on it. Now, Zdravko Mamić has nothing else to do but sell players to make money... but fundamentally, theft is theft...

You all just lump me in with the crowd that defends Zdravko Mamić... but I certainly don't do that. I just want to provide some perspective on certain things. It's not like Zdravko Mamić is the only one who operates this way, nor will he be the last...

I'll tell you this: my hatred for Zdravko Mamić is not any greater than my love for Dinamo Chicago...
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
@Robert Wood5

I suppose you aren't quite grasping the point, which is rather unfortunate... as I mentioned before, perhaps if you looked a bit more into the English scene, you'd see how many clubs have been bought out by billionaires... yet the fans still stand by their teams... they aren't even within 5% of agreeing with the fact that, for instance, some Russian bought Chelsea or Manchester City or whatever else has happened with club ownership over in England... But those fans stay loyal to their clubs... You can find Mamić and people like him all over the world in various clubs across Europe, but nobody turns their back on their own team; they just fight the battle in a different way... that is really the core of the whole matter...

What exactly is there not to understand?

The hatred toward Mamić simply cannot outweigh the love for one's own club... and if you perceive things differently, then I truly feel for you and everyone else who shares that particular perspective...

@Aaron Parker70
I had a feeling you would say that... though if our friends from San Francisco were being honest, they would admit what actually happened... now, the question remains as to why I care about any of this—whether it's the fact that those demons took a beating, or the fact that certain groups teamed up against those 20, 10, or 5 paid agitators from the North...

@Jeremy Mitchell11

I don't need to wash my conscience of anything, because I haven't threatened anyone, nor have I attacked anyone who stands on the East side today, and I haven't behaved poorly toward anyone involved in this entire situation, regardless of which side they are on... so...

But you have a point; that might be the first sensible thing written since I joined this forum... we shall see what the future holds, I suppose... ☕
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Henry Grant51 said:Peter Robinson21, you’re actually a decent guy, we’ve known each other for quite a long time now, having experienced several matches and away trips together.
I really don't understand what you need all this for, these kinds of arguments and posts.
When I saw your photos from San Francisco, I had to look twice because I wasn't sure if I was seeing things correctly.

I don't know who you are, but if you know me, then you know I've always been someone who walks my own path; I never just drifted along with the crowd... back when there was the Boycott... I was one of the first to stand up for the others, even though most people around me said, "that's foolish" (and those were mostly people I knew who have since moved out East), but well, you go along with the boycott... a year later, everyone sees that the boycott achieved absolutely nothing... back in June of that year, I said, "the boycott hasn't done anything, we need to try a different way"... that's when the first threats started: "you're against us, you're against the association, blah blah blah"... but I just said, "it didn't work, let's try something else"... and then, after that, in August, the group decided, "no more boycotting," and it was time to head back to the games... some said only MLS games, others said we should go to every single match... I decided to go with my own crew, the group I've been traveling with for 20 years... if one goes, they all go... I find myself standing in the stands at Yankee Stadium in Madrid, surrounded by a bunch of people I know who, for some reason, were still participating in the boycott during the Champions League (and they were going to the Champions League and EU matches during the boycott while I wasn't)... but I ended up getting trashed by certain people from the association and people who were supposedly my friends... the insults started, the threats started... I have to say, it disappointed and angered me more than I can say, especially since these were people I had stood shoulder to shoulder with in so many battles, people whose backs I had covered... if they had any respect, they could have just sat down and talked to me; whether an agreement was reached or not, we could have parted ways like adults, without the threats or the bitterness... the way it turned out was just sad... I decided for myself not to go to matches with the association's group anymore; I've been to several matches in the last two years, but on the West side... But since I have my own crew that I've been riding with for years here in Germany and Austria—and none of them are on anyone's payroll—I decided to start going to matches again...

With the old guard, I have plenty of friends, and they all know my stance regarding Mamić, but no one, absolutely no one, has ever thrown anything in my face or blamed me for it; I said my piece, they said theirs, and that was that... it's different from some others who have known me for a long time but simply turned their backs on me and others who don't share their views or agree with their actions...
Someone here said, "Peter Robinson, you're too stupid to pay everything to Mamić"... Yeah, I am, I'm too stupid for that kind of thing, and I'm proud to be "too stupid" in that regard... and why does it bother you? It shouldn't matter to you whether I'm too stupid or if I simply refuse to let someone bribe me... that isn't your problem...
@ZGV, just to wrap this up, anyone who turns their back on me even though they know it's worth talking to me on a normal basis and acting like a human being (which I think I demonstrate here, even if some people try to provoke or spit on me, though that doesn't tire me at all) shouldn't expect me to keep covering their back... So many people disappointed me out East that I can't tell you how much it hurt, and it still hurts today... someone is talking about a return... I'm not asking for a return or anything else, because what happened cannot be undone... But that's just how I am (an idiot), and even today I would shake anyone's hand out of respect for the past, but unfortunately, the loyalty is gone... Anyway, take care, bye... that would be all... no anger or anything else...

Aaron Parker70 said:Well, why shouldn't we? People really need to have their eyes opened on this one.
Maybe you'd rather tell us all about how those demons are out there hitting people in Munich instead.

From what I can gather, they weren't exactly acting tough when those 20 of them got absolutely wrecked by nine drunk, smug, arrogant guys right in the middle of San Francisco in front of the arena during "Green-and-Yellow Night"...
Perhaps you should look closer at what certain people are arranging with the other fan groups (like the Demons, the armada, the donkeys, etc.). Because once they took that beating, everyone started making excuses like, "Wait, are you East or North? We said we were only attacking the North side." I mean, what am I even supposed to say to that? It’s just sad, honestly. Just truly sad that things have reached a point where people actually have to team up with rival fan groups just to deal with those 20 "paid actors," as you call them...

Robert Wood5 said:Munich,
you claim to support Dinamo—and hey, it doesn't hurt as much as it used to, but you're a supporter... You don't celebrate losses, and you certainly aren't going to mock us for freaking out over losing to Austria or that 3000-person crowd against Kyiv, right?
.....
A few questions for you:
Dinamo plays a friendly against Čukarički next Saturday; will you be rooting for them then?
Will you still be celebrating ten days from now if Dinamo loses to Rennes in the Champions League qualifiers?

I’m asking, please, keep it short and sweet. No mentioning the East, the North, paid players, political parties, or turning your back on friends, etc.

Short and sweet... that's a very silly question... incredibly silly, really, but I suppose I'll answer it with a counter-question of my own... What if some Indian billionaire shows up tomorrow, buys the club, kicks out every single local player, and fills the roster with Black players or Brazilians? I think there wouldn't be a single local left in the squad (just look at some of those teams in the English PL, for instance). In that case, would you continue to cheer for a Dinamo that has no local presence left, or would you turn your back on them? It seems just as foolish as your question, but since we are already engaging in silly inquiries, I might as well keep it going...
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
gentlemarlin102 said:you know what I’m getting sick of? these two-faced idiots...

It’s all great, right? We should cheer for Los Angeles FC, regardless of whether Zdravko Mamić runs the show or not. We need to support the club and the players, because I guess Zdravko Mamić will eventually move on anyway... "management and players come and go, it's just Los Angeles FC and US"

But, well, you know what happens next? A match against LA Galaxy rolls around... and then these "anti-fans" show up, people who actually root against this version of Los Angeles FC (of course, because they are the destroyers of everything and basically the biggest bunch of communist trash 🙄 ), and then you have guys like you, who claim to support Los Angeles FC with all your heart and can't wait to clear the qualifiers just so you can travel through Europe, attend home matches in the big leagues (for the sake of the dollar, I suppose) and take selfies for Facebook...

And then, oh well, we get knocked out of the tournament... suddenly the players who used to receive massive support are called cowards, and the coaches become targets for ridicule... tickets are way too expensive, and the response is always, "I guess I won't bother going to the game until they improve..."
"It's just Los Angeles FC and us?"

Do you know who is actually the only one left? Do you know who goes to away games and gets treated and scrutinized like some high-level terrorist? Do you know who takes all the heat, who loses their jobs, who ends up in jail, pays the fines, and so on...? Do you know who isn't even allowed to properly support their own club at their own stadium? Do you know who gets surrounded by two lines of police plus one or two rows of officers like they're Al-Qaeda, ETA, and ISIS all merged together trying to destroy the world? Do you know who has their tickets searched and is held up for ages just because they aren't standing in their specific section in an empty stadium?

It's just Los Angeles FC and US.... ☕

Everyone wants it to be wonderful and perfect, everyone wants to give their support, but clearly, it isn't quite so wonderful and perfect...


It is quite obvious that you don't really know me, otherwise, I suppose you wouldn't be talking like this or trying to put me into some category that I don't actually belong to...

But still, I have never once rooted against Los Angeles FC, nor have I ever cheered for the opposition... whoever does that ought to know for themselves whether it is okay or not; personally, I find it terrible and am absolutely against it... and you seem to think I haven't been frisked at the gates like the rest of you... it's not that I forgot (I guess I'm getting old), but I walked right past the police and just laughed, and the guard let me in just like that... simply because I am living in Germany... if I say I forgot, well, I suppose that is our little privilege since we live outside of America... 🙂
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Dennis Davis97 said:Look, Bmk, I don't really care how many matches you've sat through. Honestly, I have nothing to do with your club. I just find it incredibly frustrating seeing people like you constantly sticking your noses where they don't belong, trying to dictate the lives of guys who actually live here in the city and deal with the daily grind... while you big-shot Americans just fly in a few times a year to act like you know everything. And then there's this guy Pero you're talking about—who exactly is he supposed to be intimidating? He's hardly an imposing figure, is he?

Well, if you aren't actually involved with our club, then maybe you should just back off. I suppose it’s a bit strange to be so worked up about Dinamo if you aren't even a supporter...
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Jesse Campbell said:The club was ruined by Mamić, not us (certainly not those of us from the North). You might be able to explain why a small number of BBB supporters are missing—though that’s mostly just a result of police pressure and Mamić’s own crackdowns—but how on earth do you explain having 300 or 400 people showing up at the West Stand during the title celebration against our biggest rivals?

Egotrips? I mean, maybe by traveling to Madrid while the boycott was happening, you actually showed that you consider yourself more important than the group itself?

Look, we don't all have to think alike, I suppose. But if you don't agree with the majority, perhaps it’s better to just step aside rather than working against the group and the core idea. 🙂

As for the gravediggers, I guess I agree. Some of them really have become just like them. ☕


I will continue to grant you the point that Mamić destroyed the club... I haven't ever said anything else, truly... but, I guess, destroying the club as a fan and causing us to be kicked out of European competition—which seems to be the plan—I feel like we haven't gained anything from that. Especially not in terms of getting Mamić out of the club... if anything, then he definitely won't leave, and he’ll probably just start selling off everything of value...

My trip to Madrid is my own business, I suppose. It just strikes me as odd because I saw members of the crew in Madrid who were supposedly part of the boycott just like you all were... and they were at other Champions League matches that year too... hiding in the stands so nobody would notice them, and now they are badmouthing those who actually showed up... I think when you talk about hypocrisy, maybe you should clean up your own house first...

I am not working against the group; otherwise, I would have gone straight to Mamić to give him my vote and help him continue to ruin the club... but that doesn't even cross my mind... I simply think differently than some of you... though I suppose that falls under the category of "if you aren't with us, you're against us"...

Yes, some people have indeed become like gravediggers, attacking one another, which is quite sad to see... who started it or who didn't, I honestly don't know, nor do I particularly care... that weight lies on whoever chose to act that way... as for me, I guess I have a clear conscience regarding this matter...
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Dennis Davis97 said:Honestly, I'm just totally fed up with these people living abroad trying to dictate how we should handle our lives here... you guys aren't us, and frankly, you never will be...

I suppose I've seen quite a few games in my time... though I'm not entirely sure how many you've actually witnessed...

Dennis Davis97 said:It seems somewhat symptomatic, if you ask me, that the ones talking the most trash in the style of Peter Robinson21 are precisely those who rarely show up to the stadium. I mean, I don't know if anyone ever actually decided from the stands whether goals should be celebrated or not, but personally, soccer has just become distasteful to me over the last three years—that includes Mamić's management agency running all over the pitch...

The same logic applies to you, I guess... I don't know if things were officially decided, but they certainly happened, specifically involving that large group at the matches... just think back to Vienna or Razgrad... certain things there really left a bad taste in my mouth. If you truly believe those kinds of things are acceptable, then I have to wonder why some people even bother cheering for Dinamo anymore...
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
analogheron19 said:I'll just ask you one thing... do you actually support that pamphlet being published as the latest "history" of the Bad Boys on those so-called fan club websites?
Please give me a straight answer.


I haven't been reading any of those fan club pages for quite some time now... I guess it's been a few years already...

but maybe if you send me the link, I can tell you what my thoughts are on the matter...
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Raymond Gonzalez7 said:To me, people like you are the absolute worst. You claim everyone is the same, but that isn't true. Everyone responsible for us ending up in this mess is currently sitting in the exact same boat. Both the mercenaries and those who were originally calling them out as mercenaries are essentially in the same position now. Over on the East Side, there wasn't anyone actually leading the charge while all this traitorous trash was fighting amongst themselves from the sidelines. If there was anyone capable of taking charge, they either left long ago or are just standing by watching. And now, you suddenly show up out of nowhere and tell us we're all one and the same. I mean, where were you for the last five years if you think you have the right to say something like that?

Well, I was pretty much in the middle of the chaos... if that’s really what you’re asking...

So, according to you, there’s nobody left on the East Side holding any real influence... well, if you say so, I suppose that's the truth... though, personally, I don't think it's quite that simple..

In my eyes, the people who tore down the Bad Boys are all the same—whether you consider them mercenaries or the ones pushing to destroy our group from the other side...

@Ronald Hayes

Maybe that's just how it works in your head, but honestly, screw your bank account and your money...

@Anthony Barrett37/">@@Anthony Barrett37

I am still speaking out against him, but I am certainly not speaking out against Real Madrid. Those mercenaries, or even those of you who think you're better than them, don't interest me at all; I couldn't care less about them... I have my own crew that I run with, and I know for a fact that none of them are sellouts... and as for knowing people on both sides of the fence... well, like I said, I'm not the type to turn my back on someone I've stood shoulder-to-shoulder with... I'm just not that kind of person... even if that person happened to be taking payouts from Mommy or the Democratic Party into their bank account... I can't stand Mamic, but I don't hate Real Madrid, whereas some of you clearly do—cheering when the opponent scores or celebrating when Real Madrid loses... no way, man, I'm not like that. We didn't fight for a club like this back in the 80s and 90s...

And frankly, your attempts to drag my name through the mud don't affect me one bit. Go ahead and talk your trash, but I hold my ground, and I would never betray a friend... not even Mamic would do that, nor would Johnson...
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
bluebear42 said:Maybe if you're so over the North and East sides, you should just head West then.🤣
If this is your Real Madrid, I guess why are you even bothering to support the wrong club right now?

This has always been my club... my Real Madrid... regardless of how many losers are running the show, or how many foreign players they bring in, it stays my club...

And for those of you for whom it isn't that club anymore... I don't really know what to tell you... have you ever actually met or seen this "your" club you talk about?

The way you all try to belittle anyone who doesn't share your exact opinion is honestly nothing more than pathetic... personally, I can accept any viewpoint, whether someone is for or against Mamic... everyone has their own rights, but the behavior some of you are showing is simply at the level of preschoolers, little kids who can't see past the wall to the wallpaper...

Ronald Thomas46 says: Look at the post

That very same person, the one encouraging these little songs and pretending suddenly that Real Madrid is the most important thing in the world...


In my opinion, that person has absolutely no business being in the stands, just like some people from the East who used to heal their ego trips by picking on other fans... it makes me sick to see what you've turned once the strongest group in Europe into... we've just become a joke, both in the stands and around them... I feel nauseous listening to certain statements from people from the North and East... we've become true North American types, behaving even worse than they do, and I don't think Mamic or the club management is solely to blame for that—we're the ones to blame ourselves...
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Douglas Barnes15 said:I suppose you don't really know what you're talking about anymore... but I'll ask you one more time... what have you actually heard from people who are far away from the North!?


There is just so much being said, and like I mentioned before, I really don't want to get dragged into any more of these debates... I guess everyone thinks they're telling the truth, yet everyone lies, too. It seems to me that just as some folks talk about those in the East who aren't helping, people in the North say similar things about those in the East who aren't helpful... so, maybe there isn't much point in relying on "he said, she said" since I haven't personally been there to see it with my own eyes...

That is precisely why I said it—I've heard things, but I simply don't know what the actual truth is. Since I can't verify it myself, I'd rather not throw random nonsense out there just to have you all fighting amongst yourselves on these forums again....
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
And just to wrap things up, everything I’ve been saying regarding those folks from the North—well, I actually told them all to their faces. I’m not the type to talk behind someone's back or resort to threats... I simply voiced my unfiltered opinion about Mamica and those who have decided to jump on his bandwagon, and honestly, nobody even breathed a word against me...

Why was that? I suppose it’s because there is a certain level of mutual respect at play here. Since I didn't go out of my way to attack anyone or issue any threats, I shared my thoughts on Mamica, and they shared theirs... everyone has the right to hold their own views, I guess... And look, if we were once in the trenches together, watching each other's backs against the opposition, supporting the Armada both domestically and abroad through all the ups and downs of the last 20 years, then I think—if you consider yourself a decent person—you should be able to accept that a friend might not see eye-to-eye with you on everything... Only idiots seem to believe they're the only ones entitled to an opinion... That's just how I see things personally

As for me, I won't be meddling in anyone else's business anymore... whether it's people on the East Coast or the North who can't get along or suddenly decide they can, that really isn't my concern...
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
driftingranger65 said:The people you're standing next to in the stands? Well, until pretty recently, they were practically throwing flares at each other and bashing heads in with telescopes. Total idiots.


There are fools on every side... whether it's out East or up North... I suppose it doesn't really matter who’s kissing whom and who isn't...

By the way, there is one group, then there's another group further removed from them... which means we actually have three factions here now... the Anti-Mamicev crowd, the Mamicev crowd, and then those who just couldn't care less about either side... and now, if you ask me where I fit in, after I've basically insulted everyone equally... well, it doesn't please anyone... not one side or the other... I don't know, honestly... I was born foolish, I lived foolishly, and I guess I'll die foolishly too...
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Jacob Price23 said:So, I guess you could say I’ve completely shifted my tune all of a sudden? I suppose I should explain how that happened. It wasn't exactly a planned maneuver, if that makes sense. Maybe I just felt like the previous direction wasn't quite hitting the mark anymore, or perhaps the wind just changed. I'm still figuring out the exact reasoning myself, really. It feels like a bit of a pivot, though I'd prefer to think of it as a necessary adjustment to the current circumstances. I guess we'll see where this new path leads us.

I suppose I should probably address this situation, though I’m not entirely sure if it warrants such a deep dive. It seems there is some ongoing discussion regarding the recent developments within the league, and I find myself wondering about the implications for the upcoming season. Perhaps it is a bit premature to draw conclusions, but one can't help but notice certain patterns emerging. I was reading some thoughts from Jesse Campbell earlier, and while his perspective is certainly interesting, I feel like he might be overlooking a few key variables. Then again, maybe I am just being overly cautious. There is a certain level of uncertainty that seems to permeate the current discourse, which I find somewhat perplexing, yet strangely engaging. It is almost like watching a slow-motion replay where you know the outcome, but you still find yourself squinting at the screen to see exactly how the contact was made. Anyway, I guess what I am trying to say is that things are shifting. It feels a bit unsettled, much like the atmosphere in Chicago during a particularly unpredictable summer storm. One moment everything seems steady, and the next, you're bracing for impact. I don't mean to ramble, but it feels important to acknowledge that we are all navigating these changes together, even if our interpretations of them differ quite significantly. We shall see how it unfolds, I suppose.


What exactly did I say that was so wrong? It’s just that losses don't sting quite as much as they used to, I suppose... though, then again, there I was in the stands—or maybe just jumping around my living room in front of the TV like a complete idiot—when we managed to claw back to 3:1 against Austria, and I felt absolutely gutted when they ended up pulling one back to make it 3:2. I wasn't exactly cheering when we failed to qualify for the Champions League, nor was I celebrating whenever the other team found the back of the net. I guess I'm just being honest.

I often find myself wondering if things could ever return to how they used to be... and even today, that feeling persists. I suppose it's because I truly miss it—I miss that sense of pride we once held, that quality that really made us stand out from the crowd. But, unfortunately, that era feels dead to me now, and I honestly don't know if we'll ever see those days again. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic, but it's hard not to feel that way.
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William Kim said:Are the guys from the East fighting for everything you believe in? Are the guys from the North fighting for everything you despise? You just sit there up North and talk trash about them down East. Maybe I’m just being thick, but I don't really get it.

I suppose there's something you haven't quite grasped here... personally, I tend to criticize both sides... I guess that's just how I am...

slyeagle512... what kind of assignments am I supposed to have on this forum? And who exactly would I be receiving them from?

brisksurfer21...

And honestly, what exactly is bothering you about this conversation? Is it just that someone doesn't share your exact perspective? Does it bother you that people aren't all shouting "hooray, everyone is doing exactly what we want"? You say you want elections, which implies you want democracy, which means you should want everyone to have their own voice... but wait, since we aren't living in Yugoslavia anymore and there isn't a Kim Jong Un to force everyone into a single opinion, there are going to be people who think differently, people who say "I disagree with you"... and when I say I don't agree with you, or even with the goals of the Northern faction... well, I guess that's just my view. What's the issue with that?

Oh, and I suppose if you aren't standing right there with them against the opposition...

You claim to want democracy, yet you try to control people like they're in North Korea... you want a free club like a major US franchise, but then you won't allow any actual freedom of choice... what if I'm completely for a third option in all of this? What if I'm not siding with mamica or Simica and his crew? What if I actually fancy myself being the next Rainer Calmund, acting as the Manager Dinamo?

The problem, I think, is that there are always two sides to every coin... and sometimes, there's a third one too...
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Matthew Martinez64 said:this guy from Vienna is honestly one of the biggest pieces of trash I’ve ever encountered. I mean, he’d probably sell his own mother for a hundred bucks. Just yesterday he was trashing N/A and N/A, and now suddenly he's acting like some "friend from the stands."
well, I suppose he’s really just an insignificant character who shows up to a game maybe once a season.

I think you might need to watch your tone a bit when it comes to him...

Who even are you to talk about him like that? I mean, who gives you the right to post stuff like this? Where on earth did you get these ridiculous ideas that he would sell out anyone, let alone his own mother??? I wonder, how would it feel if you said that to his face—assuming you actually have the guts for it... It seems to me you're just hiding behind a screen, insulting people and getting everyone worked up over absolutely nothing...

Not everyone heading to the North Stand is a paid shill... I'd guess there isn't even 1% of them (and don't forget, there are people on the East Stand who are paid off too, folks who used to—and some still do—take money from the club, the players, even from Mommies...), perhaps for some people, guys like you and your crowd are just incredibly annoying. Your constant agitation toward others, your hatred for everything the modern Real Madrid represents, your "if you don't agree with us, you're against us" attitude, your "if you aren't with us, your mom is a..." insults, and your constant disrespect toward the club and the players... For some of you, it seems more important to obsess over certain N/A than to actually fight for a better club; it's more important to tear down the players than to cheer them on...

Some of you don't seem to realize that tearing the club down or trying to kick them out of Europe won't achieve anything... I hate Mamic, but destroying the club just to spite that addict isn't my goal... We've already done enough damage by destroying the BBB...

I feel I must repeat this once more, and it applies to both the East and North factions: Screw Mamic, the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, and all the paid shills on both sides of the stadium... you killed the BBB with your massive egos... Honestly, it would probably be best if both sides stopped showing up to Real Madrid games altogether and stopped wearing shirts that say BBB on them... because you don't have anything left of the Bad Boys... you've turned into something like hooligans, just disgusting ego-maniacs...