Posts by shadowangler50

James Garcia50 said:Like what?

With series, though, no matter how many you binge, you can never get enough—they always find a way to surprise and blow you away.

Meant? Smoki is a woman 😂

What did NOD ask me?

First off, look at the market. Major studios decide what gets greenlit, they pull the strings, and ultimately, they hold all the power. Their only concern is recouping their investment; who cares about art or quality when there's money to be made? They chase the youth demographic, and let me tell you, movies aimed at kids aren't exactly a hallmark of high art.

Go check any online forum and see what people actually consider "good" these days. I don't know how else to put it. If the majority of people are saying one thing, shouldn't we stop and ask why?

James Garcia50 said:Sure you can, but high ratings don't equal quality. Soap operas get huge numbers too, doesn't mean they're good.

Movies aren't going to fail, and series will always have their niche audience.
Your issue is that you're cherry-picking a bunch of garbage movies to make your point.
Besides, Game of Thrones is just exhausting trash.

Turkish shows pull in massive numbers, but does anyone actually respect them? They have the ratings, sure, but they’re never considered high art.
Both critics and audiences have reached a consensus: these shows are top-tier. Is anyone actually surprised?

Those movies are just like those Turkish soaps—high viewership, sure, but zero respect for quality. Why does everyone settle for mediocrity?
Why bother listing them? You want me to compare massive box office hits with critically acclaimed blockbusters against high-rated, binge-worthy TV series? Is there actually a point to this comparison? One is a fleeting cinematic moment, the other is a long-term obsession. Which one are you even looking for?

Smoky Barrett? Is that even a real name? Does anyone actually take this seriously? kaže:
I haven't been following this entire debate closely, but I did take a quick glance. Honestly, I'm on the same page. Movies lately have been absolute garbage. It’s especially bad when it comes to thrillers or comedies. You can still find decent dramas or sci-fi, but those first two genres? Not a chance.

On the flip side, great TV series seem to be dropping constantly. I won't even bother listing them all since you've already mentioned them here. But what on earth is going on with movies lately? Seriously, I have no idea. 🤷

Exactly, especially when it comes to comedies. This kind of humor they feed us isn't meant to make you laugh—it's designed to make you sick of everything. Why even bother?
The Hangover is easily the most successful comedy we've seen in years. Does anyone else remember actually laughing? I can't recall laughing more than twice during the entire movie.
When it comes to the movies, you can clearly see the lack of vision and talent. Why do they insist on churning out the exact same tired sequels every few years? Is anyone actually trying to be creative anymore?
And let’s not forget the sheer oversaturation of the market. When you’re drowning in content, how is anything supposed to actually surprise or impress you? Is anyone even trying anymore?

bluenomad2 said:There was a golden age before too. The internet just makes everything feel like a massive trend.

They haven't overtaken anything, and they never will.

You don't understand what a golden age actually implies. For you, it's only a golden age because they're more 🤣

Do some actual research on the golden age of television http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age_of_Television

http://www.salon.com/2014/06/22/how_...den_age_of_tv/

Read this as well: Hill Street Blues, Twin Peaks, The X-Files, ER...

You didn't offer facts, just your opinion. I gave you the facts. There are books written about previous golden ages of television—various analyses and influences. That's a fact. What you're claiming is basically a fabrication with zero foundation.

What you wrote is perfectly clear. If it's a golden age, then you assume series are automatically better than movies, which is why I pointed out that there were golden ages before, meaning series were already better back then.

Of course they aren't. Movies will always be better.

Obviously, there were successful periods in the past referred to as golden ages. I never said series weren't successful before now. My point is that this is the absolute peak of all golden ages. We've never seen this many high-quality series packed into just a few years.

I have no idea what you think defines a successful or "golden" period. Success is built on viewership and popularity. Why do they film pilot episodes then? Why don't they just film a full season and skip the single episode test? Because everything revolves around ratings and popularity. It always has been, and it always will be.
I'm sure series from the fifties had higher viewership than what we see now. Go ahead, name those fifties series you've watched that actually meant something more than the shows airing today. I can easily list ten current shows that have massive audiences.
And why would anyone write books about this golden age while it's still happening? How could you possibly know what kind of impact current shows will leave? This mindset that "old is always better than new" isn't always grounded in reality.
More quality series lead to greater popularity, and greater popularity makes something more successful—more "golden." And if movies fail and the audience shifts even further toward series, that golden glow only gets brighter.

Movies have never been worse compared to series until this period. Now, series are definitively better.
Are you seriously suggesting that The Avengers, Spider-Man, Batman, Twilight, or The Hunger Games are better than Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, True Detective, or The Wire?

James Garcia50 said:Besides, you're losing it over these new American shows, acting like nothing existed before. As if Americans don't obsessively remake every single European series out there...

Twin Peaks is a masterpiece (not that I even listened to the intro music...)

I'm not obsessed with American shows; I'm saying television is better than movies right now. And they aren't necessarily masterpieces—they're just better because modern movies are garbage.
In that sense, maybe I am obsessed with movies, simply because they’ve become such a disaster.
When was the last time I actually watched a movie and felt the urge to see it again?
I watch everything, and yet, nothing sticks.

James Garcia50 said:Is it really anyone's fault you can't pick a decent movie?

It's the exact same story with TV series.

Masterpiece. 🙏

Then who's to blame for your bottom-of-the-barrel standards?

bluenomad2 said:Quote: shadow dancer

This is exactly what I was talking about on the last thread. That bolded part tells me you don't have the slightest clue how TV eras actually work.

Those golden eras started back in the '50s with the Twilight Zone, moved through the '90s with Twin Peaks, and hit a peak when The Sopranos arrived late in the decade. Each period produced shows that completely revolutionized television.

People are getting it completely wrong. They think we’re living in some unique golden age of television, but that’s a misconception. Golden ages have been popping up every few decades for over half a century now.

The internet works wonders.

They call it the golden age because we've never seen this many high-quality shows packed into a single era. Sure, there were great shows before, but never this many critically acclaimed hits hitting at once.
Second, it's a golden age because, for the first time, these series are actually outperforming the movies being released alongside them. This is their peak, where they've finally seized dominance from film.

Look, I spend my time scouring the internet for something to watch—new or old—and I've reached the conclusion that modern series are generally superior to the older ones. You can judge based on taste, but I'm judging based on facts.

Why are TV series dominating movies right now?

The answer is simple: they're just better.

And why are they better? Because they actually bother with a plot. Movies have become nothing more than a bloated mess of CGI and recycled storylines that we've all seen a thousand times before. Honestly, the only people finding that stuff engaging are kids under 15 who haven't seen enough cinema to know any better.
Sure, every once in a while a film comes along that feels like a breath of fresh air compared to today's Hollywood standards, but those are rare exceptions that only prove the rule.

Then you have international films from outside the US that focus on storytelling, but they run into a reality problem. Why do people watch movies and shows in the first place? For entertainment. Most people aren't looking to sit through a heavy drama about domestic violence or environmental crises; they deal with enough of that in real life. They want to unwind and escape reality, not dive deeper into it.

Series have rightfully seized the throne from movies. It’s no wonder everyone calls this the golden age of television.

To trailer looks better than Superman, Thor, Iron Man, or any other big-budget blockbuster hitting theaters this year.
It’s way too early to tell.