Posts by Adam Patel98

rustygardener172 said:You’re clearly just part of that group of people who don't care if the doctor messed up... or maybe you just cared more about how you looked than actually being able to breathe, so you went to some plastic surgeon instead of an ENT...
Can I ask how you decided my breathing was worse than before the surgery? And when exactly did you decide that?

Functionality was always more important to me, obviously, then comes the aesthetics. I went to the guy who claims he can do everything, and it turns out he's just a decent plastic surgeon😢. I guess I'm to blame because I didn't ask enough questions; I just went to the big-name celebrity doctor and called it a day. My mistake for not doing my homework.

The looks aren't really the issue, even if the nose isn't "perfect"—not that I need it to be. But now there are consequences, because the deviated septum wasn't fixed, and whether you believe it or not, it’s staying that way.

rustygardener172 said:The happy ones usually don't bother posting anymore... while the unhappy ones can't let it go, which is why they seem more numerous. They're the ones writing here.
Look, I'm not trying to offend anyone, and I know there are exceptions, but I think it mostly boils down to this:
The satisfied group... Type 1—people who had a truly terrible nose, maybe huge or hooked... they just wanted the hump gone and the size reduced. For them, it’s enough. Lower expectations lead to higher satisfaction.

The satisfied group... Type 2—people who had breathing issues and decided to touch up the look at the same time, but didn't have a major hook. Their breathing is fixed, so they're happy because that was the main goal... though they might wonder if the aesthetics could have been slightly better. (I guess I fall into this category 😁 ) ...but that starts leaning into the third group, which is basically

The dissatisfied group... Type 3—these are people who primarily wanted surgery for looks, but also happen to have a deviated septum (which 80% of people do... so, you get the idea)... so they use "poor breathing" as the legitimate reason for the procedure. These folks are almost always dissatisfied because their nose will never be perfect. They just don't grasp that a "perfect" nose doesn't exist. After every surgery, they'll find something else to complain about and want to change that too. It never ends... If they could accept themselves and see beauty in imperfections, they probably wouldn't have gone under the knife in the first place.

The dissatisfied group... Type 4—this is when it doesn't matter what the nose looked like before or why they went in... these are the people who actually have a right to be upset because, unfortunately, they were a victim of a surgeon's error...

Types 2 and 3 are the most common. Type 4 is extremely rare... I'll keep my fingers crossed that you aren't in that one.
Just use some common sense. Most dissatisfaction stems from unrealistic expectations and a lack of knowledge. If you do your homework before surgery and don't expect perfection—because a perfect nose REALLY doesn't exist—you're already halfway to being satisfied.
Good luck!

So what do you say to someone like me? I was unhappy with how my nose looked (the hook) and had a massive deviation. I go in for surgery, the doctor fixes the shape but doesn't even touch the deviation, and actually makes it worse. I'm still unsatisfied, and I don't think I belong in group 3, for sure.

Can anyone here point me toward a doctor who actually responds to emails in a timely and professional manner? I’ve been dealing with some issues following my surgery, and I’m trying to get as many different perspectives as possible before I decide what to do next.

Thanks

Sam Kim12 said:You're just talking nonsense.😉
Some medical facilities don't just stop at the standard swabs; they also use these little plastic tubes to hold everything together while they're drawing the samples. I guess that's just how some places handle it.😉The whole point of a tampon is to absorb liquid, not to act as some kind of structural support for your nose.

Packing used during a septoplasty is there to hold the septum in place during that critical window right after the procedure. At least, that’s what a top-tier ENT specialist told me. In my case, they took mine out way too early, and I ended up dealing with scar tissue and a septum that was actually more crooked than it was before. When it comes to rhinoplasty, I agree—the packing doesn't really have any other purpose than soaking up blood and mucus. It won't change how the nose looks on the outside, but man, it makes a massive difference for the septum.

Hey.

Emily Martinez12 said:That's exactly what I'm getting at. 🙂 Since I know Tončić charges for consultations, I'm wondering if he'd even bother answering something like this over email...
Before I go emailing him and feeling like an idiot, I figured I'd ask you guys here first. 😉

As for whether he'll actually answer, only he knows that. 🙂

Emily Martinez12 Asks:
I was wondering if I could just send some photos of my nose directly to Dr. Tončić. Maybe I could ask him what he thinks needs to be done and get a rough idea of the price.
I'm not really sure if he’d actually want to answer this over email instead of during our consultation, so I figured I'd just ask around here. Has anyone else ever dealt with him that way? 🙂

In theory, it should work out fine. If the photos are actually decent and reliable, the results shouldn't look all that different between the pictures and reality. The only real headache is that some surgeons just want to squeeze money out of you during the initial consultation. Personally, I’ve reached out to a few doctors in places like Chicago and New York since getting around isn't exactly easy for me, and most were pretty polite about it. Some weren't even shy about giving me a price right away.

Edward Robinson70 said:Usually, a defect like that closes up on its own over time. How long has it been since the surgery?

It was a closed technique, a septorhinoplasty. It’s been two months since the procedure. At the very beginning of my right nostril, the deformity is still pretty obvious—it looks like a ridge of cartilage climbing up toward the septum. I had this massive piece of cartilage there originally, and the surgeon removed most of it, but not enough, so it still doesn't match the left side at all. That whole ridge was right there. Then, about two months in, I developed an infection. My surgeon ended up pulling out the stitches and said things would improve after that. They were supposed to be the dissolvable kind, but he had to take them out; up until then, only one stitch had come out naturally. He even drained some pus from the area. However, five days after that, everything just sort of split open, and now I can see the cartilage. I might have mislabeled it in a previous post—called it bone when it was actually cartilage (my mistake). Tomorrow, I'm heading to a public hospital just to get someone to look at it and maybe offer some advice. I'm honestly not sure what to do, especially since my surgeon won't be available for at least the next month. 🤷 I sent him an email, but since it's the weekend, I haven't heard anything back.

Let me clarify what I’m asking: Has anyone else had their wound split wide open after getting their stitches removed? In my case, they took the sutures out and everything seemed fine at first, though I noticed a little bit of a hard bump in that area a few days later. They tried to reassure me yesterday that it was just scar tissue or a slight lack of mucosal coverage in one spot. But today, I can see that the entire incision has pulled apart, and I can actually see bone 🙂

I honestly don't know what to do, and it's already 🙂

QUESTION: Has anyone else dealt with more than just the "standard" mucosal damage after a procedure? I mean, has anyone experienced a situation where the mucosa was completely gone in certain spots, leaving you looking directly at the cartilage?

How do you even fix that? 🤷 Does that kind of thing actually regenerate over time, or is it just a permanent deal?

Olivia Young36 said:Has anyone here had nose surgery with Dr. Glumicic? I know he works with a ton of celebrities, so I was wondering if any "regular people" have actually gone through it with him?

Yeah, I definitely do. Just happened recently.😁

Kimberly Sanchez said:I only had functional surgery—or whatever they call it. The whole reason I went under the knife was just because I couldn't breathe without nasal spray. Aesthetics weren't even on my mind, and I didn't care about straightening it out while they were at it 😬. They did my procedure through the nostrils, so there aren't any visible marks, swelling, or bruising. They took the Tampons out the very next day. It’s been a week since the surgery and I can finally breathe through my nose, though it's not both sides yet—it seems like only one side clears up at a time. Scabs have started forming and I can really feel the dryness inside, but I rinse it often with Aquamaris and that helps. Recovery is going exactly how the doctor said it would; I guess I'll be breathing fully in a week or two. As for the follow-up, he said after 20 days, maybe sooner if needed, but I think I'll head in somewhere after two weeks just to make sure everything looks okay...

I had both the cosmetic and functional stuff done, but honestly, it's all the same timeline. Believe me. My Tampons were also out after two days. And yeah, your nose being dry is normal; it's supposed to be dry. Wounds, scabs, and stitches all heal better when things stay dry rather than moist. It makes sense that it heals faster that way. It's like when you cut your hand; it heals quicker if you don't keep soaking the wound in water. 😁 Don't worry about it. If you can breathe through one nostril now and the other one in a few days, it just means both passages are open, things just haven't settled into place yet. No big deal.

rowdyfalcon35 said:I’m honestly at a loss here. My follow-up appointment isn't for another three weeks. Breathing is a struggle right now—everything feels congested. I can't blow my nose, and I have to be careful about cleaning the area with swabs just so my mouth doesn't get completely parched. My mucous membrane feels trashed, and there's constant excess saliva. My doctor told me I probably won't be breathing normally until summer. Has anyone else dealt with this? It seems like everyone else breathes perfectly fine after their surgery, which is why I'm asking. For me, things are much worse, and the difference is massive. It feels okay briefly after he cleans it out, but then the secretion builds back up immediately. In the spot where the opening is, the skin has basically fused to the bone. He mentioned that if he tries to use a needle, there's a risk of triggering another inflammatory process since there was a cyst there previously. He suggested that instead of messing with that, maybe injecting fat filler into those two scar-like indentations that are deforming my entire nose might be a better way to go.

Honey, I sent you a message on Facebook. I was really hoping you were doing better, but looking at this, it seems like there hasn't been any progress. 😢

Kimberly Sanchez said:They took my Tampon out on the second day. It’s been four days since surgery and I still can't breathe properly. My doctor mentioned that scabs will form and there are still internal stitches, so I guess that's just how it goes. I have to keep rinsing my nose, so maybe I'll finally be able to breathe once the scabbing clears up and those stitches dissolve or whatever they call it. 🤷

Don't sweat it too much. I had my surgery exactly a month ago, and it was only three days ago that I could finally breathe well through both nostrils. I definitely panicked at first, too. But honestly, letting time do its thing worked. I'm seeing a massive improvement now, both in how it looks and how it functions. There was constant swelling, infections, congestion... things like that. Now it's all starting to subside. For a while, I actually thought they hadn't fixed my septum correctly. My nose was super asymmetrical with this weird lump on the right side, but that's slowly smoothing out too. Just relax. 🙂

Oh, and my smile is finally coming back, too. 😁

I'm curious if anyone here has actual experience with lymphatic drainage massage? I've heard some girls try to do it to themselves at home, so how does that even work? Does it actually make a difference? And what's the technique supposed to be? Thanks.

George Richardson10 said:I had surgery for a deviated septum and sinus issues about 11 days ago, and I'm only just starting to catch scents again. I guess I'm wondering how long it usually takes for my sense of smell to get back to 100%?

I've never actually lost my sense of smell. Honestly, I feel like I could still pick up on some smells even with the packing in there...

rustygardener172 said:A lot of people are reading your posts😁

Can I get some pictures too?

hahaha, I guess I meant more like someone watching us from the sidelines—just us looking all puffed up with those goofy grins on our faces, laughing at ourselves...🤣

rowdyfalcon35 said:Hahahaha, oh man, that mirror... I haven't looked at myself in a mirror nearly as much in the last three weeks as I have since this started. Honestly, part of me just wants to toss the whole thing in the trash so I don't have to face my own reflection anymore. 🤣
Your smile will come back, don't sweat it. It happens to everyone, maybe it just takes some people a little longer. I read somewhere that it usually takes about a month to a month and a half, so we'll see. 😁
My recovery was anything but wonderful... they had sponges in my brain down to my throat, did four procedures all at once (trying to fix function and aesthetics at the same time), his nose basically fell apart during surgery, he barely managed to put it back together, everything was broken. The next day he tried to pull the sponges out but had to put them right back because I was literally bleeding non-stop—I almost suffocated. Tried again the next day, same thing, so the sponges stayed in for another week. My mucous membranes are totally trashed...
Even a week after he finally took the sponges out, I couldn't breathe through my nose. When I finally tried to blow my nose—probably too hard, like a turbo diesel engine—a piece of bone shaped like a little triangle popped out. After that, I could finally breathe through one nostril, but I woke up swollen and tingling like crazy. He tells me it's fine and totally normal... I guess we'll find out in a few months if it actually was normal or not. It hasn't been great... the tingling has gone down a bit over the last two days, so things might be looking up. We'll see...

What you went through sounds brutal, and here I am complaining. 😢 I’m honestly wondering if I’ll end up back under the knife if it stays like this, haha. 😁 It hasn't even been two weeks since the procedure. Man, if anyone is reading this, we really are crazy. Laughing at ourselves while complaining at the exact same time.

I emailed you those photos. The nose looks okay. It's just the swallowing issues and the asymmetry that are killing me. Let me know if your asymmetry looks similar. 🙂

Also, does anyone know anything about lymphatic drainage? How do you massage it? Should I go see a professional for that?

rowdyfalcon35 said:Everyone goes through this after surgery, so don't sweat it too much. It'll pass 🙂
I'm just hoping it passes quickly because I still have this weird, lopsided smile 😁
Mine is asymmetrical too; it pulls a bit to the left, and I've got this massive swelling on the right side near my eye along with some kind of lump. I'm just hoping it goes down. It wasn't as obvious when the swelling was bigger, but now it really stands out.

Everyone keeps telling me to just relax and that everything will be fine—that the asymmetry won't be that noticeable and my smile will come back. Honestly, I feel like they're just saying that to comfort me and that I'm being dramatic. I'm basically glued to the mirror all day. I feel like I'm losing my mind. Then I read posts on here where girls describe the whole experience as simple and wonderful... it's unreal. This is anything but wonderful. On the first night, I almost choked on a gauze pad. It went straight down my throat.

rowdyfalcon35 said:When I laugh, I look like an old lady without any teeth 😁
and I get this intense tingling sensation inside. It’s funny how now that I can’t even smile properly, everything just seems hilarious to me. 😂

That sounds awful. I feel like an old woman too... I'm honestly worried my doctor might have messed up regarding muscle relaxation. Is that happening to you?

I'm new to this forum, and honestly, this thread is hitting a little too close to home right now. I recently had surgery with Dr. Glumicic, and I'm not exactly thrilled with the results. It's only been two weeks, so I know I have to wait for things to settle down and find their natural shape, but the waiting is killing me. 😢 The nose looks nice—he didn't turn me into Miss Piggy or anything—but it's still a bit crooked and asymmetrical...