Posts by restlessfox3

restlessraven12 said:Hey everyone! I had septorhinoplasty about five and a half months ago, and my nose still looks swollen on the sides near the bone and at the tip. Is this normal? Especially the part near the bone—it looks pretty wide and feels hard to the touch. I have this feeling they actually broke my bone during the procedure, but I'm not totally sure because nobody mentioned anything to me. I had the surgery done at a hospital.

I don't really get how you can think they just went ahead and broke your bones without saying a word... I mean, you'd have medical records for that... and honestly, nobody's going to just snap your bones without you knowing about it.🤷

restlessraven12 said:I was thinking the exact same thing about switching doctors... this whole thing is starting to get on my nerves... 🙂 plus, looking at the scans, it looks so weird 😕 is yours looking just as strange?

When I broke my bones, there was this bump on the side, and because of the swelling, that part of the bone felt way more prominent. Honestly, I was totally panicking because I had no clue what was going on—I'm touching my bone and feeling this lump, and then the doctor tells me there’s no reason to freak out, it's just callus forming and it'll eventually recede. Some people call it "bone hardening" or whatever...🙂

Look, I don't really know what you're dealing with, and I definitely don't want to overstep by acting like I have all the answers or giving you unsolicited advice...

But just for my own peace of mind, I'm going to go get a second opinion...
If it really is just callus, then yeah, I guess I just have to deal with it until it goes away...

But if someone actually screwed up my treatment, they should be held accountable...

Even though I do trust him... I mean, just so I can finally stop worrying, I'm getting another look from someone else...

restlessraven12 said:Hey everyone! I had septorhinoplasty about five and a half months ago, and my nose still looks swollen on the sides near the bone and at the tip. Do you think this is normal? Especially the part near the bone—it looks pretty wide and feels hard to the touch. I have a feeling they might have broken the bone during the procedure, but I’m not entirely sure since nobody really explained things to me. I had the surgery done at a hospital.

That bump on the side is probably just a callus forming... it eventually settles down...😠
Personally, I’d probably head out for a second opinion from someone else just to see what's actually going on...
Better to double-check and get some peace of mind.🙂

So, I just got back from my breathing checkup and honestly? It was incredible...
I’m seriously so stoked. For the first time ever, I actually feel like I'm breathing like a normal human being. Huge shoutout to my doctor for making that happen...
The swelling on my nose is going down so well, I'm getting more satisfied with the results every single time...
Now I'm just waiting for this skin to peel off finally :-)
And get this—the doc says my breathing is only going to get even better, but I already feel perfect. Honestly, I'm just riding that high right now :-)

Sam Kim12 said:You can technically go through with it at 5 years old, but everything happens for a reason. If it’s something that’s seriously messing with your quality of life, there isn't really an age limit, obviously. But if the medical history shows it's a milder issue, they usually suggest waiting because facial bones keep growing until you're about 21. Just to clarify what I said in my last post, my friend's daughter was 14 when she had hers😉

I'm with you on that...
I actually caught a segment on Galileo the other day talking about these procedures out here...
Rhinoplasty seems to be the most common one...
And most of them are minors...
The doctor made sure to mention the risks and warned everyone about that...
So yeah, it's basically every man for himself at that point...
But honestly, it’s probably way better to wait until all the bone structure has fully developed...
I mean, any decent doctor is going to guide their patient toward what’s best, so it’s pretty pointless for me to weigh in since I'm definitely not a doctor.
I was just watching that show and repeating what I saw and heard.

Sam Kim12 said:To bring down the swelling, they give Dexamethasone injections, and you can apply Kamagel or Heparin to the swollen area😉, though you aren't supposed to massage it unless your doctor gives you the green light.

Anyway
I had a massive surgery yesterday—full reconstruction. They had to cut through mucosal folds and did the aesthetic work too. I’m currently getting those Dexic injections and using Kamagel, and honestly, there's almost zero swelling (just a tiny bit)

I've got this splint on my nose to keep everything positioned, plus some foil in my nostrils to reinforce and hold the septum in place (they completely removed and reconstructed my septum). Because the mucosal work was so extensive, I'm bleeding quite a bit, so they haven't pulled the packing out yet. They won't take it out for another two days because if they yank it now, I'll just bleed everywhere. Right now, I'm changing the gauze under my nose about every two hours.
I am beyond thrilled with the surgery. As for the doctor, all I can say is he's amazing—he explains every single detail. Plus, thanks to those meds I mentioned, I look almost normal (the gauze under my nose ruins the effect, though😂)
Oh, and I had the procedure at Dubrava Basketball Club:-)

All that effort spent picking the right surgeon and doing endless consultations really paid off. If anyone is looking for an appointment at Mayo Clinic this October and wants to grab mine, let me know—I'm all set, so I'm happy to pass it along.😬

I have some Heparin cream sitting here, hasn't even been opened... I read about it on a forum and bought it before my surgery.
My doctor told me nothing but cold compresses and gentle massage to help with the swelling and bruising...
And let's be real, every doctor will tell you there isn't a magic cream to speed things up...
I haven't heard anything about those injections, so I can't really weigh in on that...
SO GLAD to hear everything went well! ;-)

Zachary Palmer56 said:Haha, wearing a hat on the beach? Fine, I guess I'll just grab a Christmas beanie and call it a day. 😁

As far as I'm concerned, you can just cancel me... honestly, that might be easier for you than trying to figure out how to wear a Santa hat. :-)

Zachary Palmer56 said:Two months?? Man, forget about getting any beach time this summer then. 😢
The girls were mentioning some creams for dark circles—basically just bruising, I guess... anyway, thanks!

Hats off to you :-)
All I heard was to stay out of the sun for at least two months...
Honestly, just ask your doctor about those creams; they'll tell you what works...
Best to get the work done during the winter... looking back, I really regret not doing mine when it was cold...

Zachary Palmer56 said:I’ve been lurking on this forum forever and rowdyfalcon35, please, please send some pics—I’m dying to see what the actual result looks like... I put my order in back on July 24th with the clinic over at St. Jude’s and they agreed to do the cosmetic touch-up (for free 😁). I have no clue how it’s going to turn out, but Donna Bennett73 turned out amazing, so fingers crossed for me too. I really want to know what I can do to speed up the recovery process; I don't want to be walking along the beach looking so rough that little kids start getting scared of me 🙂. You guys have mentioned a million things, so let's recap... you said sleep with your head slightly elevated (for how long?), and about the massages—are those just to stop the skin from sticking or to help with the swelling? What about ice packs or eye creams? Just tell me everything 😁

You’ve gotta stay away from the sun, saunas, and tanning beds for at least two months...
The massages are mainly to help bring down the swelling and make sure your skin doesn't get stuck
. You should start using compresses right after the surgery—you can pick them up at any local pharmacy...
Whether you end up super swollen or barely noticeable really just depends on how well you follow the rules... there isn't some magic cream that's going to fast-track the whole thing... every doctor is going to give you that same line
. He’s the one who will give you the specific instructions
. Just grill him with questions; that's the only way you're actually going to feel secure about it
.

Just saw my inbox... man, I can't believe what he put you through. Seriously, he needs to be doing everything in his power to make this right with you.

rowdyfalcon35 said:Lucky you... like I said, it all depends on how much and where it’s stuck. In my case, it happened right where the nose structure basically gave way—where the bone and cartilage were deteriorating. It was just a hollow spot there, and once they drilled into it, everything kind of collapsed, which is why it looks the way it does and why the skin is all red. It’s stuck on both sides there. I’m sure yours isn't like that, but don't speak for me; I'm just talking about my own experience.

Why don't you just post a photo?
Look, I agree with you here. I didn't realize the specifics of what you were dealing with, and I get that everyone's situation with that skin sticking is different. Since your tissue actually collapsed, I totally see why yours looks different...
Anyway, your situation is pretty rare, but for people considering surgery who already know there's a risk of this happening, it isn't fair to call it "ugly" and scare them for no reason...
I definitely remember your nose because the difference before and after was massive...
You went through with this for the aesthetics and to be able to breathe, after all.
And I'm honestly sorry you had to deal with all that...

hiddenseal14 said:Wait, am I really rambling now? I feel like I barely wrote two sentences. 😕

Look, I'm sorry, I seriously didn't mean anything by it. I honestly just assumed you hadn't been massaging your nose at all and that’s why the skin was lifting. Besides, some doctors don't even recommend massaging it in the first place.

Honestly, I think some people just go overboard and have totally unrealistic expectations. I know so many people who lose their minds claiming their nose is a total disaster just because one nostril is a millimeter wider than the other or something like that.

I'm not saying that's the case with redlady. Sadly, I wish it were. But I'd love to see a photo just so I can judge if it's actually as bad as it sounds.

Man, I used to massage my nose for like two hours a day whenever I had nothing better to do...
And they told me to hold one side down while massaging the other, then swap...
My nose looked absolutely massive at first and I was totally panicking, but as the swelling went down over time, I started to chill out a bit...
The bones on the sides were broken so my nose is narrow, and yeah, the skin is definitely looser, so it makes sense that this could happen—but just for the skin to peel away like that? :0)
Don't mind me...
But I was killing myself with all that massaging and then boom, here we are again.😢

Sam Kim12 said:this is actually the main point here😉

And honestly, I’m not even going to touch that part because you're being beyond rude. Maybe try learning some basic manners before jumping back into a conversation, yeah?😉

Alright, since you think you're so smart, why don't you explain how an implant can look different on every single nose?
An implant looks exactly the same regardless of whose nose it's on.....
For example, if mine is placed on the right side, it looks identical to when it's on the left...
I really don't have the energy to explain this to you, and I definitely don't have the patience to argue with you...
We're done here.

restlessfox3 Asks:
So, why did I end up getting stuck with this... I mean, I know exactly what it looks like, but honestly, I feel like once you get that rhinoplasty done, it ends up looking pretty much the same on everyone's nose anyway.

Sam Kim12 said:How can you even claim it hit you just as hard as it did the author of that other post if you weren't actually there to see it happen?😁

Don't think I'm trying to push your buttons here, but you were the one who said it yourself—every single surgery is different, and the aftermath is totally unique to the person. That's just facts. Plus, trying to get the full picture just from a written description? It’s almost impossible to know exactly what to expect 100%.😉

I honestly can't tell if you're actually this clueless or if you're just playing dumb...
Let me break this down for you: if the skin gets stuck, it doesn't really matter if it's more or less "stuck"—to the naked eye, it’s still stuck. It might not even look ugly, but just the whole idea of being stuck? That's enough to get under anyone's skin.
Honestly, if I started jumping into a debate about what kind of needle they use to peel that stuff off, I’d just look pathetic. I haven't actually been through it myself, so I don't have any real skin in the game.
I was asking if anyone else actually managed to get it to loosen up just by massaging it? My doctor told me that if I massage the area, it’ll eventually peel away on its own...
It’s honestly depressing when people start posting about how someone looks bad. I know for a fact that's just not how they actually look, so I'm probably going to jump in and tell them they're totally exaggerating...

Sam Kim12 said:So you just drop an opinion that I totally agree with since it's basically identical

And then you immediately start trolling with this stupid comment that just completely undermines everything said in the post above.😕

How on earth can you claim someone is exaggerating when you haven't even seen the nose?😕

Exactly, because they slapped me with "...and I know how it looks," but honestly, I think every nose looks more or less the same once you put tape on it.

rowdyfalcon35 said:What does it even look like? Just ugly.🙂

Look, I'm just gonna say you're blowing this way out of proportion. Honestly, I think that's enough.

Honestly, I’ve read so much absolute nonsense on this forum... probably from people who haven't even stepped foot in an operating room in their lives (barring a few exceptions)
None of us have the exact same procedure, the same nose, or even the same experience...
The only thing those of us who actually went through the surgery can offer is practical advice—like how to deal with wearing glasses, avoiding the sun or tanning beds, and stuff like that.
We can talk about nose massages, dealing with swelling... just small, real-world details that might happen, and share what we went through.
But trying to dive into deep medical theories? That's just stupid because we aren't doctors...
Everyone has their own surgeon to ask, or they can just go in for a consultation, which is their right...
It makes no sense for someone who hasn't had the surgery—someone who isn't looking at that specific nose and doesn't even know what kind of procedure was done—to sit here making up stories or comparing it to their own surgery, which might be way more intense or way easier.
That's just how I see it.

hiddenseal14 said:So, did the doctor actually explain how you’re supposed to massage your nose?

I don't remember every single detail, but I know mine explained how to massage it, and I was doing it pretty aggressively a few times a day—like, actually painful levels of pressure. And honestly? My skin didn't end up sticking at all. That’s literally what the massage is meant for.

Seriously, man, stop acting like you know everything...
I was massaging mine constantly and it *did* stick...
I didn't even realize it had stuck until he showed me. He told me to switch up my technique to try and unstick it... And apparently, that's totally normal since the nose tends to swell... It can happen.
Nobody has the exact same nose...
And things don't go down the same way for everyone either...
I didn't even have any bumps, and he told me nobody should be touching my nose, but since I couldn't breathe through it, I went ahead and fixed those minor imperfections...
For me, this happened just a few days after the surgery... basically right after they took the splints off..
I had rhinoplasty just like you, and I got the same instructions you did...
So, since yours didn't stick, I really don't get why you're making such a big deal out of it...

Has anyone here actually dealt with skin sticking to their nose after surgery?
Like, can you massage it back into place, or is it stuck for good?

rowdyfalcon35 said:Thanks so much for the support, it seriously means the world to me. Right now, my main priority is finding someone who can actually fix this and save my career—because at the end of the day, people have to be held accountable for what they do. I won't let this go. I’m a believer too, so I know how to forgive, but I just can't move past being lied to straight to my face. It’s infuriating when someone refuses to take responsibility and tries to make you feel crazy by acting like nothing happened. I respect everyone's work and I'm sure they've helped plenty of people, but what happened to me was a massive medical error that's obvious to everyone, from random bystanders to the top specialists in the US. This wasn't just bad luck; it was a botched procedure. They went to extremes without my consent, and that’s just not okay.

I am so sorry... I actually went to Glusca and had such a hard time breathing because of a 3.5 cm polyp, but now my breathing is amazing. He told me it would get even better over time, but honestly, it feels great right now.....
My nose didn't get too narrow either; in fact, he specifically told me he wouldn't narrow it too much because he didn't want to mess with my breathing...
As for the aesthetics, I can't really comment yet since my nose is still pretty swollen..
I really hope everything turns out okay for you too.

I think I saw what your nose looked like in those photos
If you do any singing
If that was your nose, it turned out really nice eventually... at least in my case...

rowdyfalcon35 said:They pulled my packing out way too early, then had to put it back in because of heavy bleeding that wouldn't stop (which makes sense, considering his nose basically fell apart and my mucosa ruptured—given all that, plus multiple surgeries, having the Tampon in for longer than a single day was absolutely necessary). That happened twice. Because of that, blood pooled up, the cartilage started dying, and the septum never properly set, so it just collapsed. Now I have a hole. Does anyone know someone who used a silicone button to fix a septal perforation? Is that a permanent fix or just temporary?

A hole???

If someone messed up my nose like that or just totally screwed me over, that would be the last time they ever touched a patient's face... they'd be hanging up their tools for good.

Has anyone else felt a little bump right by their eye on the nasal bone after surgery?
Both sides feel totally different to me—one side feels perfectly level, while the other feels like a damn slide. It’s driving me absolutely insane... anyone else?

driftingbadger12 said:Alright, I need someone to talk me off the ledge here. I finally went through with rhinoplasty because my nose tip was honestly just way too big. Fast forward two weeks post-op, and instead of things actually shrinking like they were supposed to, the tip looks TWICE as big as it did before! 🙂 And now I’m starting to panic, obviously. What if it never actually shrinks? It looks honestly terrible right now, and it feels like there’s zero progress being made no matter how many days go by. It just refuses to downsize—or even just return to its original size, which, let’s be real, would actually make me happy at this point. On top of that, everything feels all stiff and woody. Honestly, I wouldn't even mind if it stayed bigger than it was before the surgery, but I specifically went in for a reduction! Please, someone, tell me things are going to get better? 😕😕😕

I feel exactly the same way...
So, the doctor says it’ll take about four months before things start getting back to some kind of normal...
I’m definitely not brushing this off because I get that recovery takes time, but honestly, it's starting to bug me. When I look at my nose, it feels like I'm looking at two different noses depending on which side I check. One side just doesn't match the other, and that's what's really weighing on my mind.
Look, you don't even need to stress about that peak. Honestly, I feel like a freaking ping pong ball myself sometimes, so I'm not exactly losing my cool over it. It can't really get any worse than it already was... everything just takes time, I guess.