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ruggedjackal46 said:Portrait of a Lady on Fire (dir. Celine Sciamma, 2019)

The premise is that Heloise is set up to marry some guy from New York City, so her mother commissions a portrait to be sent off to him. But since Heloise isn't interested in marriage or sitting still for a painter, the artist, Marianne, ends up acting as her companion. While they hang out, Marianne captures those candid moments to use as the basis for the painting.

Thanks!
Sounds incredibly good. 🙂Adele Haenel absolutely kills it every single time.
Tutoring (2019) in Movies ·
A barbie doll in my pocket? 🙂

That’s basically me hitting rock bottom.
Tutoring (2019) in Movies ·
Ashley Sanchez86 said:Honestly, what kind of idiot decides to make a film like this? Just imagine some disturbed individual watches this and actually thinks, "Hey, maybe I should try recreating those scenes myself." It’s absolutely terrifying. Does nobody bother to think about the implications of what they’re filming and then handing it over to the public? Where is the director's sense of responsibility? 🤦

By that logic, I guess you'd want to ban every single movie involving war or violence, too—why even bother watching sports? Imagine little Mark watching a soccer match and breaking down in tears because he isn't Cristiano Ronaldo. 🙂

The point isn't that we should only consume content that's perfect, beautiful, and filled with unicorns sipping pink water from an Eternal Youth spring. It's about watching things and actually applying a bit of critical thinking afterward.
Concert Announcements - Archive in Music ·
The legendary and controversial Sinead O'Connor is bringing her exclusive premiere performance to Tvornica Kultura on January 15th. It's a super intimate show with a limited capacity of just 1,200 tickets, which are about to go on sale. (C/P from Jutarnji List)

I grabbed mine! Yes! 🙂
Tutoring (2019) in Movies ·
I thought it was pretty great when he told the moderator to back off: NEVER. 🙏 Loud and clear.
Tutoring (2019) in Movies ·
I watched it yesterday, and honestly, it started off on a high note. 🙂 I’m a sucker for the details. It’s those little things that really get to me. Honestly, the very first scene already told me everything I needed to know—I was hooked immediately.

There’s something really powerful about that shot of the silent school hallways while everyone else is crowded into the auditorium. I actually read somewhere that the actress spent a few hours just sitting in an empty classroom to soak up the atmosphere, and honestly, I think that was a brilliant move. Lost weight. The teacher—specifically the way she phrased her questions or just called people out in front of everyone.

ruggedjackal46 said:The stars finally aligned, and I managed to snag one of the few remaining showtimes in San Francisco alongside three other lucky souls. Personally, I thought "Forest" was fantastic, while "Lily Vidić" was just okay—I'm glad the vibe leans more toward the "Forest" side of things. My take? The Knight handles the thriller genre much better than parody, especially when he uses realistic grotesque (or maybe grotesque photorealism 😬) to weave in social commentary rather than leaning too heavily on the joke.

I’m particularly fond of those sudden tonal shifts; just as the movie pivots toward comedy or melodrama, you get slapped with a reality check. My favorite moment has to be when the teacher realizes what the "specialists" are actually up to; we see her from behind as she approaches the kids, and even though we don't see her face yet, it's clear the kids have absolutely lost their minds. Those transitions into seriousness and drama are executed brilliantly. And honestly, nobody pushes the "line of good taste" quite as effectively as the Knight, which is always a win in my book.

There are certain elements that didn't quite land for me. All those macho dynamics feel incredibly predictable and stale, yet they hog so much screen time—everything from the relationship between the mayor and his subordinate to the final "showdown" between Beader and the cop, not to mention that janitor played by Clint Eastwood. Also, those strangely staged moments where characters have sudden epiphanies felt like unnecessary "in-your-face" filmmaking to me. Truth be told, the movie only starts getting genuinely interesting once it flips the predictable role assignments on their heads, but I suppose that's to be expected.

Then again, I might go back just to catch all the brilliant little Easter eggs, like the key role played by the forum 🤣, Damir Radić 🤣, or Suk in the opposition candidate's camp 🤣 🤣. I'd probably also squint at the numbers written on the classroom chalkboard to see what kind of details are hidden there. And that tribute to Gregurević was lovely, though it's a shame it happens right at the end when 75% of the audience (everyone but me) has already cleared out.

Also, I find it quite amusing how this theatrical release perfectly coincides with the teachers' strike. It’s great PR 🤣, but also feels somewhat deserved since the film itself draws so much inspiration from the very conditions driving the strike. In that sense, I’m actually relieved that the only truly positive character in the whole movie is the teacher.

I'm with you on that.

ruggedjackal46 said:The stars finally aligned, and I managed to snag one of the few remaining showtimes in San Francisco alongside three other lucky souls. Personally, I thought "Forest" was fantastic, while "Lily Vidić" was just okay—I'm glad the vibe leans more toward the "Forest" side of things. My take? The Knight handles the thriller genre much better than parody, especially when he uses realistic grotesque (or maybe grotesque photorealism 😬) to weave in social commentary rather than leaning too heavily on the joke.

I’m particularly fond of those sudden tonal shifts; just as the movie pivots toward comedy or melodrama, you get slapped with a reality check. My favorite moment has to be when the teacher realizes what the "specialists" are actually up to; we see her from behind as she approaches the kids, and even though we don't see her face yet, it's clear the kids have absolutely lost their minds. Those transitions into seriousness and drama are executed brilliantly. And honestly, nobody pushes the "line of good taste" quite as effectively as the Knight, which is always a win in my book.

There are certain elements that didn't quite land for me. All those macho dynamics feel incredibly predictable and stale, yet they hog so much screen time—everything from the relationship between the mayor and his subordinate to the final "showdown" between Beader and the cop, not to mention that janitor played by Clint Eastwood. Also, those strangely staged moments where characters have sudden epiphanies felt like unnecessary "in-your-face" filmmaking to me. Truth be told, the movie only starts getting genuinely interesting once it flips the predictable role assignments on their heads, but I suppose that's to be expected.

Then again, I might go back just to catch all the brilliant little Easter eggs, like the key role played by the forum 🤣, Damir Radić 🤣, or Suk in the opposition candidate's camp 🤣 🤣. I'd probably also squint at the numbers written on the classroom chalkboard to see what kind of details are hidden there. And that tribute to Gregurević was lovely, though it's a shame it happens right at the end when 75% of the audience (everyone but me) has already cleared out.

Also, I find it quite amusing how this theatrical release perfectly coincides with the teachers' strike. It’s great PR 🤣, but also feels somewhat deserved since the film itself draws so much inspiration from the very conditions driving the strike. In that sense, I’m actually relieved that the only truly positive character in the whole movie is the teacher.

Signed. 🙂
Honestly, the way they’re talking about this is just blatant disparagement of the entire profession. It's pretty much a total smear campaign against everyone in the field.

Ashley Grant66 said:It was fun and high-energy—but honestly, probably the most polished and serious Knights movie they've ever made. So glad I caught it in theaters! I found myself laughing along with the group of about 13 to 15 teenagers in the audience—it was such a blast. 😁
I honestly don't get why people were walking out—like, what exactly were they expecting? The movie wasn't even that boring; you could definitely follow the plot if you actually paid attention—plus, I got the feeling the kids in the audience actually enjoyed it.

So, overall—it’s great! The acting is top-notch, like everyone was already saying, and the whole cast just feels so high-energy. I could totally see Gregurević playing the school janitor—though honestly, Burić is absolutely stellar here too. I really loved the humor, especially those quick little bits where they chat with parents in front of the camera—you've got the professional vow theorist, the self-satisfied ŽMK whose son is actually a little troublemaker, and the rest of the crew who were clearly inspired by (i) the forum. For me, Matić Delić and Kostelac were also huge highlights.
The movie does a great job handling a huge cast and all those parallel storylines for a little while, but then—well, everything falls apart. The entire second half basically hinges on some incredibly forced, unbelievable decision made by three complete idiots. It’s frustrating because the characters that actually hooked me at the start just get totally sidelined. Suddenly, the dad and his whole "struggle"—that specific situation that kicked off the plot—don't even matter anymore. Instead, we’re stuck watching the mayor, Jack, and that annoying chief (who are just those predictable, stereotypical types you see in a dozen other movies). That arrogant kid ends up stealing the spotlight from Anna, and the mom—who I honestly thought was going to be this powerhouse who'd storm into the school for revenge, lol—just ends up being sidelined and irrelevant. As for the dad, he comes across as a total lowlife. He isn't the type to go around posting illiterate hate on forums or anything, but still—it just didn't work for me. 😁
That scene where the teacher and the dad are talking at the exact same time? Honestly, such a great moment—really captured that chaotic energy! 🙏

A few things still feel a bit unfinished to me—honestly, I’m still processing it all! It felt like the movie dragged a little too much in certain spots—like that whole scene at City Hall and the long chat with the Mayor—but then other parts were just rushed through without enough detail. I didn't quite catch everyone's motivations in that one big plan, you know? It felt a little abrupt at the end—though, I have to say, Cindrić's little moment of introspection was absolutely spot on.

And hey—just because a scene is out doesn't mean it's a "no." 😁

I can confirm that.

Ashley Grant66 said:It was fun and high-energy—but honestly, probably the most polished and serious Knights movie they've ever made. So glad I caught it in theaters! I found myself laughing along with the group of about 13 to 15 teenagers in the audience—it was such a blast. 😁
I honestly don't get why people were walking out—like, what exactly were they expecting? The movie wasn't even that boring; you could definitely follow the plot if you actually paid attention—plus, I got the feeling the kids in the audience actually enjoyed it.

So, overall—it’s great! The acting is top-notch, like everyone was already saying, and the whole cast just feels so high-energy. I could totally see Gregurević playing the school janitor—though honestly, Burić is absolutely stellar here too. I really loved the humor, especially those quick little bits where they chat with parents in front of the camera—you've got the professional vow theorist, the self-satisfied ŽMK whose son is actually a little troublemaker, and the rest of the crew who were clearly inspired by (i) the forum. For me, Matić Delić and Kostelac were also huge highlights.
The movie does a great job handling a huge cast and all those parallel storylines for a little while, but then—well, everything falls apart. The entire second half basically hinges on some incredibly forced, unbelievable decision made by three complete idiots. It’s frustrating because the characters that actually hooked me at the start just get totally sidelined. Suddenly, the dad and his whole "struggle"—that specific situation that kicked off the plot—don't even matter anymore. Instead, we’re stuck watching the mayor, Jack, and that annoying chief (who are just those predictable, stereotypical types you see in a dozen other movies). That arrogant kid ends up stealing the spotlight from Anna, and the mom—who I honestly thought was going to be this powerhouse who'd storm into the school for revenge, lol—just ends up being sidelined and irrelevant. As for the dad, he comes across as a total lowlife. He isn't the type to go around posting illiterate hate on forums or anything, but still—it just didn't work for me. 😁
That scene where the teacher and the dad are talking at the exact same time? Honestly, such a great moment—really captured that chaotic energy! 🙏

A few things still feel a bit unfinished to me—honestly, I’m still processing it all! It felt like the movie dragged a little too much in certain spots—like that whole scene at City Hall and the long chat with the Mayor—but then other parts were just rushed through without enough detail. I didn't quite catch everyone's motivations in that one big plan, you know? It felt a little abrupt at the end—though, I have to say, Cindrić's little moment of introspection was absolutely spot on.

And hey—just because a scene is out doesn't mean it's a "no." 😁

I have to agree with this.

Honestly, I think things would have worked out much smoother if there were just two possible scenarios instead of three. That extra variable is exactly why everything feels so shaky and poorly paced by the end.

That said, I’d still much rather catch Tutoring in a theater than, say, the Diary of Diane Budisavljević. 🙂Seriously guys, go see this movie while it's still playing.

One more thing...
Right after the credits roll, I find myself walking past Marina Kostelac. Pure coincidence, of course.
crimsonmoose3 said:
Daniel Perez6: Thanks for all the examples... 🙂

So, you think the distinction is primarily driven by genre...

It’s a complicated equation because there are so many moving parts at play: release year, the studio involved, censorship hurdles, distribution channels, and production budgets. Then you have to consider the target demographic. If a movie carries an R rating instead of a PG-13, you're looking at a smaller potential box office. Kids and teenagers are the primary drivers of consumer spending...
Take the first Punisher, for instance. It was an 80s production, heavy on the violence and the body count... then you have the 2004 reboot, which was incredibly lukewarm—so sanitized that even kids could watch it without issue. Finally, there was the 2008 version, which actually embraced the brutality. We’re talking villains being tossed into glass grinders, people being impaled, heads being smashed with chairs... that sort of thing.
Netflix doesn't seem to have much of an issue with violence. The Punisher series was pretty intense—it’s been a while since I've seen anything that visceral, like someone dragging their face across a shattered mirror...

Slasher films generally center on serial killers, though there is plenty of variation within the genre. You have everything from the toothless, bloodless flops to the sheer brutality found in something like Hatchet...

Splatter horror comedies have always leaned heavily on excessive blood, visceral gore, and intense violence. They rely on a brand of dark humor that frequently pushes the boundaries of good taste...

Troma films were in a league of their own. Low-budget flicks driven by nonsensical plots, yet packed with excessive violence, monsters, nudity, and pure absurdity. Brains frying in a pan, a woman being born fully grown, a monster lurking in a high school... even that scene in the restroom where the heavy-set guy eats an infected burger. He just jerks off everywhere and emerges skinless and skeletal, screaming, "I'm thin!"...

Action movies have always leaned into violence, but only a handful truly push things into that extreme territory seen in films like The Night Comes for Us or the Raid series. Most 80s action flicks were already pretty heavy on the gore and bloody shootouts... Back then, RoboCop stood out as one of the most brutal entries; that iconic scene where the cyborg shreds the CEO at his desk remains unforgettable...

Planet Terror serves as a final nod to the grindhouse era, leaning heavily into those grotesque, over-the-top visuals. When characters get hit, the blood sprays everywhere like it’s coming out of an abscess... plus there's that scene with Tarantino...

Here we go again... The Lord of the Rings trilogy features plenty of decapitations involving orcs and goblins, yet there isn't a single drop of blood on screen. Then you look at something like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which is packed with brutal imagery—hammered skulls, chainsaw killings—and yet, you barely see any actual blood during those moments. They don't even show the blade actually making contact. Despite that lack of gore, the film was banned in the United Kingdom for years before they finally relaxed the rules about five or ten years ago...
The TCM reboots... they were pretty brutal. Some scenes went so far they actually showed limbs being severed by chainsaws...

Adventure movies were never really about being violent or gory. Most of that grit was strictly reserved for horror, action flicks, and occasionally sci-fi...

I agree with that point. This reality applies to sex as well. I can't help but wonder... what exactly is America so afraid of? Why all the caricatures...

Americans are a unique breed... They aren't just a country; they’re an entire continent that dictates the pulse of the global film industry and, by extension, cultural trends. If you tried to release a classic horror flick today where the Black character dies first, there would be a massive outcry... it's exactly what *Scary Movie* was poking fun at. Publicity drives what gets screened, which ultimately drives the box office. The issue is that people who lack any real insight seem to believe their opinions carry more weight than those of anyone actually paying attention. The real problem? These voices are getting louder and more influential by the day. You see it everywhere—people complaining that there aren't enough minority characters in a series like *Chernobyl*, or demanding Asian, Black, or Muslim leads in a show like *The Witcher* set in medieval Europe... It's exhausting...

It really just boils down to ignorance and stereotypes... especially among a generation that seems to think sex works exactly like it does in porn.

I'm not so sure about that... I always find myself thinking back to that particularly prolific year:

Blue Is the Warmest Color [2013]
Nymphomaniac: Vol. I [2013]

I haven't seen the first one yet, but yeah, Nymphomaniac.... I completely forgot how much those posters stirred up a storm. The films aren't bad, they're just far too long. And that ending to the second part certainly didn't help matters... It’s that classic clash of the sexes played out through caricatures. There will always be a certain crowd that finds offense in every single detail involving race, women, LGBTQ+ issues, or religion...

Most of the movies on this list wouldn't even be allowed to screen, let alone reach a full release.

🤣 I get it.

crimsonmoose3 said:
Daniel Perez6: Thanks for all the examples... 🙂

So, you think the distinction is primarily driven by genre...

It’s a complicated equation because there are so many moving parts at play: release year, the studio involved, censorship hurdles, distribution channels, and production budgets. Then you have to consider the target demographic. If a movie carries an R rating instead of a PG-13, you're looking at a smaller potential box office. Kids and teenagers are the primary drivers of consumer spending...
Take the first Punisher, for instance. It was an 80s production, heavy on the violence and the body count... then you have the 2004 reboot, which was incredibly lukewarm—so sanitized that even kids could watch it without issue. Finally, there was the 2008 version, which actually embraced the brutality. We’re talking villains being tossed into glass grinders, people being impaled, heads being smashed with chairs... that sort of thing.
Netflix doesn't seem to have much of an issue with violence. The Punisher series was pretty intense—it’s been a while since I've seen anything that visceral, like someone dragging their face across a shattered mirror...

Slasher films generally center on serial killers, though there is plenty of variation within the genre. You have everything from the toothless, bloodless flops to the sheer brutality found in something like Hatchet...

Splatter horror comedies have always leaned heavily on excessive blood, visceral gore, and intense violence. They rely on a brand of dark humor that frequently pushes the boundaries of good taste...

Troma films were in a league of their own. Low-budget flicks driven by nonsensical plots, yet packed with excessive violence, monsters, nudity, and pure absurdity. Brains frying in a pan, a woman being born fully grown, a monster lurking in a high school... even that scene in the restroom where the heavy-set guy eats an infected burger. He just jerks off everywhere and emerges skinless and skeletal, screaming, "I'm thin!"...

Action movies have always leaned into violence, but only a handful truly push things into that extreme territory seen in films like The Night Comes for Us or the Raid series. Most 80s action flicks were already pretty heavy on the gore and bloody shootouts... Back then, RoboCop stood out as one of the most brutal entries; that iconic scene where the cyborg shreds the CEO at his desk remains unforgettable...

Planet Terror serves as a final nod to the grindhouse era, leaning heavily into those grotesque, over-the-top visuals. When characters get hit, the blood sprays everywhere like it’s coming out of an abscess... plus there's that scene with Tarantino...

Here we go again... The Lord of the Rings trilogy features plenty of decapitations involving orcs and goblins, yet there isn't a single drop of blood on screen. Then you look at something like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which is packed with brutal imagery—hammered skulls, chainsaw killings—and yet, you barely see any actual blood during those moments. They don't even show the blade actually making contact. Despite that lack of gore, the film was banned in the United Kingdom for years before they finally relaxed the rules about five or ten years ago...
The TCM reboots... they were pretty brutal. Some scenes went so far they actually showed limbs being severed by chainsaws...

Adventure movies were never really about being violent or gory. Most of that grit was strictly reserved for horror, action flicks, and occasionally sci-fi...

I agree with that point. This reality applies to sex as well. I can't help but wonder... what exactly is America so afraid of? Why all the caricatures...

Americans are a unique breed... They aren't just a country; they’re an entire continent that dictates the pulse of the global film industry and, by extension, cultural trends. If you tried to release a classic horror flick today where the Black character dies first, there would be a massive outcry... it's exactly what *Scary Movie* was poking fun at. Publicity drives what gets screened, which ultimately drives the box office. The issue is that people who lack any real insight seem to believe their opinions carry more weight than those of anyone actually paying attention. The real problem? These voices are getting louder and more influential by the day. You see it everywhere—people complaining that there aren't enough minority characters in a series like *Chernobyl*, or demanding Asian, Black, or Muslim leads in a show like *The Witcher* set in medieval Europe... It's exhausting...

It really just boils down to ignorance and stereotypes... especially among a generation that seems to think sex works exactly like it does in porn.

I'm not so sure about that... I always find myself thinking back to that particularly prolific year:

Blue Is the Warmest Color [2013]
Nymphomaniac: Vol. I [2013]

I haven't seen the first one yet, but yeah, Nymphomaniac.... I completely forgot how much those posters stirred up a storm. The films aren't bad, they're just far too long. And that ending to the second part certainly didn't help matters... It’s that classic clash of the sexes played out through caricatures. There will always be a certain crowd that finds offense in every single detail involving race, women, LGBTQ+ issues, or religion...

Most of the movies on this list wouldn't even be allowed to screen, let alone reach a full release.

And clearly, you just have to survive the chaos over there.

crimsonmoose3 said:
Daniel Perez6: Thanks for all the examples... 🙂

So, you think the distinction is primarily driven by genre...

It’s a complicated equation because there are so many moving parts at play: release year, the studio involved, censorship hurdles, distribution channels, and production budgets. Then you have to consider the target demographic. If a movie carries an R rating instead of a PG-13, you're looking at a smaller potential box office. Kids and teenagers are the primary drivers of consumer spending...
Take the first Punisher, for instance. It was an 80s production, heavy on the violence and the body count... then you have the 2004 reboot, which was incredibly lukewarm—so sanitized that even kids could watch it without issue. Finally, there was the 2008 version, which actually embraced the brutality. We’re talking villains being tossed into glass grinders, people being impaled, heads being smashed with chairs... that sort of thing.
Netflix doesn't seem to have much of an issue with violence. The Punisher series was pretty intense—it’s been a while since I've seen anything that visceral, like someone dragging their face across a shattered mirror...

Slasher films generally center on serial killers, though there is plenty of variation within the genre. You have everything from the toothless, bloodless flops to the sheer brutality found in something like Hatchet...

Splatter horror comedies have always leaned heavily on excessive blood, visceral gore, and intense violence. They rely on a brand of dark humor that frequently pushes the boundaries of good taste...

Troma films were in a league of their own. Low-budget flicks driven by nonsensical plots, yet packed with excessive violence, monsters, nudity, and pure absurdity. Brains frying in a pan, a woman being born fully grown, a monster lurking in a high school... even that scene in the restroom where the heavy-set guy eats an infected burger. He just jerks off everywhere and emerges skinless and skeletal, screaming, "I'm thin!"...

Action movies have always leaned into violence, but only a handful truly push things into that extreme territory seen in films like The Night Comes for Us or the Raid series. Most 80s action flicks were already pretty heavy on the gore and bloody shootouts... Back then, RoboCop stood out as one of the most brutal entries; that iconic scene where the cyborg shreds the CEO at his desk remains unforgettable...

Planet Terror serves as a final nod to the grindhouse era, leaning heavily into those grotesque, over-the-top visuals. When characters get hit, the blood sprays everywhere like it’s coming out of an abscess... plus there's that scene with Tarantino...

Here we go again... The Lord of the Rings trilogy features plenty of decapitations involving orcs and goblins, yet there isn't a single drop of blood on screen. Then you look at something like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which is packed with brutal imagery—hammered skulls, chainsaw killings—and yet, you barely see any actual blood during those moments. They don't even show the blade actually making contact. Despite that lack of gore, the film was banned in the United Kingdom for years before they finally relaxed the rules about five or ten years ago...
The TCM reboots... they were pretty brutal. Some scenes went so far they actually showed limbs being severed by chainsaws...

Adventure movies were never really about being violent or gory. Most of that grit was strictly reserved for horror, action flicks, and occasionally sci-fi...

I agree with that point. This reality applies to sex as well. I can't help but wonder... what exactly is America so afraid of? Why all the caricatures...

Americans are a unique breed... They aren't just a country; they’re an entire continent that dictates the pulse of the global film industry and, by extension, cultural trends. If you tried to release a classic horror flick today where the Black character dies first, there would be a massive outcry... it's exactly what *Scary Movie* was poking fun at. Publicity drives what gets screened, which ultimately drives the box office. The issue is that people who lack any real insight seem to believe their opinions carry more weight than those of anyone actually paying attention. The real problem? These voices are getting louder and more influential by the day. You see it everywhere—people complaining that there aren't enough minority characters in a series like *Chernobyl*, or demanding Asian, Black, or Muslim leads in a show like *The Witcher* set in medieval Europe... It's exhausting...

It really just boils down to ignorance and stereotypes... especially among a generation that seems to think sex works exactly like it does in porn.

I'm not so sure about that... I always find myself thinking back to that particularly prolific year:

Blue Is the Warmest Color [2013]
Nymphomaniac: Vol. I [2013]

I haven't seen the first one yet, but yeah, Nymphomaniac.... I completely forgot how much those posters stirred up a storm. The films aren't bad, they're just far too long. And that ending to the second part certainly didn't help matters... It’s that classic clash of the sexes played out through caricatures. There will always be a certain crowd that finds offense in every single detail involving race, women, LGBTQ+ issues, or religion...

Most of the movies on this list wouldn't even be allowed to screen, let alone reach a full release.

Give it a look.

Now I'm remembering a movie that ties everything together perfectly: Irréversible [2002]. There's no way it ever made it to theaters in the US.
Matthew Anderson4 said:Got a link?

For what exactly? 😬
Amanda Robinson4 said:Violence and sex in American movies really walk a fine line. It’s basically just entertainment designed to give certain audiences exactly what they’re looking for. Of course, it’s not always like that—sometimes there's a real reason for it, or it just fits the genre perfectly (like crimsonmoose3 was saying)

But hey, here’s a little food for thought. We have two different versions of Oldboy. The original and the American one.

In the original, all that violence—driven by pure revenge—really ties back to the culture it came from. There's this specific symbolism where everything boils down to pride and honor based on those Eastern traditions. Everything happening feels earned... you actually sympathize with the characters, the drama makes sense, and the logic of how things unfold holds up. Plus, there's this almost romanticized vibe to the whole thing (I mean, if you've seen it, we could talk about that for hours)...

But then you look at the American version... and none of that is there. It feels like a remake made just so the local audience wouldn't have to deal with subtitles. When you take the same themes and stories and drop them into a totally different culture, the logic just falls apart. So, besides the plot itself, even the violence feels empty. My impression? It's only impactful because the original was...

Just my two cents on this one.

I find that whole supply-and-demand logic pretty strange when you look at how completely backwards it is with the American music industry. 😁
Thanks for all the examples. 🙂

crimsonmoose3 said:Man, I’ve really let my tastes slide into nothing but sex and violence lately, ever since the golden age of splatter horror wrapped up...

Since this theme surrounds us, it inevitably bleeds into cinema. What I’m curious about is whether the portrayal depends entirely on where the film was produced. How will violence and sexuality be presented within European, American, or Asian cultures? Will the approach be literal or more metaphorical? If you have specific examples, please share them...

Obviously, it depends...
Americans certainly have their fair share of violent cinema and distinct eras: grindhouse, exploitation, splatter, slashers, and the heavy-handed stuff... Their approach to violence tends to fluctuate between spectacular displays of gore, like the Saw series, and dark comedy, such as Braindead...
In Toxic Avenger, the guy basically mashes his opponent into pulp, rolls them into a ball, and plays basketball with the corpse...
Braindead featured that scene where the baby’s head is split open from the inside, along with zombies being mowed down by a lawnmower amidst endless gallons of blood, guts, and viscera...
The series featured some almost spectacular violence that the audience clearly relished. There was that one trap where a character is suspended in mid-air, facing massive ice blocks intended to crush his skull, while another is set to be electrocuted if the protagonist makes a wrong move or fails to act in time...
The Friday the 13th series was always defined by its relentless streak of violence... Think about it: characters being strapped to trees by their heads and tightened until they literally burst, or the constant dismemberment of limbs and heads... It was brutal...
The Hatchet trilogy certainly didn't pull any punches when it came to the gore, ranging from dismemberment by hand to full-on evisceration...
That Elm Street stretch has the most iconic scene, where Johnny Depp falls asleep only to crash straight through the bed into a room flooded with gallons of blood...
Rambo IV isn't exactly a horror movie, but it definitely belongs on a list of the most brutal films out there. We're talking limbs being torn off, bodies getting absolutely shredded, and people being turned into literal mush under heavy machine gun fire...
The Feast trilogy features these small, frenetic creatures that tear through people, ripping limbs right off. It covers everything from total bodily disintegration to heads being devoured, and even that sequence where the remains are expelled through the monster's anus...
Evil Dead II features scenes like a character sawing off his own hand after being possessed by a demon, jamming a chainsaw into a giant demon's eye, and even splitting a head in half with a chainsaw...
Scanner had that iconic scene where he just obliterates someone's head using only his mind...

How brutal a movie actually is depends entirely on the film in question. Tarantino’s work tends to lean more toward an artistic style. Take the finale of *Django Unchained*—it’s a bloodbath, walls drenched in red. Then there’s *The Hateful Eight*, where the ending leaves literal gallons of blood on the floor. In any realistic scenario, most of those characters would have succumbed to infection long before the credits rolled. Movies like *Evil Dead II* or *Braindead* definitely fell into that splatter category—heavy on the gore, violence, and dark humor. Yet, the actual violence is rarely shown directly. You see a character intending to slice through their own arm with a chainsaw, but the camera cuts away to their face as it gets splattered with blood. It's similar with *Scarface*; that infamous chainsaw scene earned it a notorious reputation, but much like *Evil Dead II*, the shot shifts to the victim as they're covered in their friend's blood...

The *Hatchet* trilogy is a masterclass in pure brutality. It offers zero censorship, just a massive brute tearing characters in half with his bare hands... The *Saw* series belongs in that same category of visceral violence, whether it’s limbs being ripped out by traps or acid dissolving chests. Even the scenes where heavy walls crush bone belong there. Then you have the *Piranha* films, which featured those absurdly gory moments involving mutated fish attacking survivors...

It brings to mind those space soldier flicks that always seemed to cast up-and-coming young actors, featuring soap opera plots interrupted by graphic scenes of soldiers being torn apart by alien insects—and vice versa. It was always quite detailed... even RoboCop had that infamous sequence where the villain ends up in a trash compactor, showing his skin peeling right off his body...

For them, violence is mostly just spectacle. Take the *Death Race* franchise, for example... The only ones that really crossed the line were exploitation flicks like the *Ilsa* series, which featured explicit scenes of torture and such...

Across
European filmmakers launched a wave of horror that was significantly more brutal and heavy-hitting than anything coming out of the States. *High Tension*, *Inside*, *Martyrs*, *Frontier*... *Inside* is particularly disturbing, a grueling watch about a woman stalking a pregnant woman, filled with explicit violence and a "realistic atmosphere" that makes you feel like it could happen to anyone...
That German necrophiliac who had sex scenes with a corpse
*Aftermath* is presented as a short snuff film featuring the torture and rape of a female corpse
*Cannibal Holocaust* is one of the most famous Italian horrors, boasting a realistic vibe since it was shot like a documentary. It was convincing enough to cause a massive scandal in Italy. Even though it features several violent sequences, like a group rape by savages, which caused quite a stir back then
The Mexican film had a nauseating atmosphere, a scene involving the rape of an infant, and a final climax. That movie also caused an uproar, though today it likely ends up forgotten as a film that uses heaps of violence and sexual assault to mask "false" critiques of the state and society
*The Life and Death of a Porn Gang* included an explicit scene where a man's head is crushed with a sledgehammer as he sacrifices himself to feed his family
*City of the Living Dead* featured a somewhat less nauseating scene involving a drill being used on someone's head, which was unthinkable at the time
The *Demons* series also featured excessive violence, leaving audiences in theaters surrounded by demons
*Adam Chaplin*—an Italian surrealist horror where a character seeks revenge for his girlfriend's death and becomes a demon. Faces turn to mush, limbs are torn off, blood sprays everywhere...

European films tend to be more "realistic" regarding violence and atmosphere. Their brutality isn't portrayed as entertainment the way American films often do; instead, it’s designed to shock the public, much like the Mexican film or *Cannibal Holocaust*

And the Japanese are a whole different story...
Over there, genitals are a taboo subject, but everything else is fair game. Their films frequently push into extremes, ranging from the *pink violence* genre to *pink eiga*. I forget the exact definitions, but *pink eiga* usually refers to films where women are tortured and sexually assaulted (like the *Flower and Snake* series), whereas *pink violence* is the opposite—women fighting back (*Sex and Fury*)

*Story of Rick* is a combat film where the protagonist gets a cut on his hand, stops the bleeding using his teeth and his own veins, and the main villain ends up in a meat grinder

*Entrails of a Beautiful Woman*—A tortured and raped young girl mutates into a penis-headed demon and mutilates her captors

*Hellsing Ultimate*—an anime that includes an explicit scene of the protagonist scraping a female villain's face against a wall until only half remains... The rest is classic stuff: tearing limbs, dismemberment, splitting bodies in half, showing entrails...

*Tokyo Gore Police*, *Machine Girl*, or *Meatball Machine*—Japanese splatter horror with cyberpunk elements... Ranging from grotesque scenes of decaying flesh to metamorphoses and people merging flesh with technology

*Entrails of a Virgin*—Members of a film crew making a softcore porn are dismembered by a demon in a warehouse

*Ebola Syndrome*—not Japanese, but from Hong Kong. It’s about a psychopath who snaps at the start, kills people, and pours gasoline on a young girl to set her on fire. The film included a scene where he rapes a Black woman in Africa, causing his penis to get stuck inside her, leading to him contracting Ebola and spreading it through the city... All wrapped up in black comedy

*Ichi the Killer*—Takashi Miike is essentially a Japanese Tarantino. They used to hand out bags for vomiting in theaters during his screenings. The film itself includes scenes like a severed piece of a face sticking to a wall and slowly sliding down. It's a love story about a lonely figure obsessed with schoolyard abuse who, when overwhelmed by emotion, goes feral and kills people with razor blades hidden in shoes... plus some sadomasochism

*Battle Royale*—teenagers end up on an island, and only one can survive. An absolute deluge of violence

It seems Japanese creators have developed an extreme obsession with violence lately. It’s more artistic, especially in manga. *Berserk* stands out as one of the most brutal examples, utilizing incredibly detailed and visceral imagery to depict carnage. A recurring theme is the victimization of women, often involving sexual assault. You see similar patterns in *Devilman*, whether it's the male or female versions transforming into demons. Even their 80s anime were notorious for explicit violence—think giant monsters tearing people apart like insects—with a heavy emphasis on rape scenes. Then there's *Violence Jack*, a post-apocalyptic animated film where male gangs are split into various factions, all driven by the desire to assault women.

They’ve produced countless genres with names too bizarre to even conceptualize. The only real distinction is that they face zero restrictions regarding the depiction of violence... As if it’s all perfectly normal to them, ranging from the harmless fetish of licking corpses to the graphic sight of a tiger devouring a regenerating woman who is then used by her family for torture... Or a woman being sliced in half, only to engage in sex with herself...

So, you think the difference is mostly down to the genre?

crimsonmoose3 said:Man, I’ve really let my tastes slide into nothing but sex and violence lately, ever since the golden age of splatter horror wrapped up...

Since this theme surrounds us, it inevitably bleeds into cinema. What I’m curious about is whether the portrayal depends entirely on where the film was produced. How will violence and sexuality be presented within European, American, or Asian cultures? Will the approach be literal or more metaphorical? If you have specific examples, please share them...

Obviously, it depends...
Americans certainly have their fair share of violent cinema and distinct eras: grindhouse, exploitation, splatter, slashers, and the heavy-handed stuff... Their approach to violence tends to fluctuate between spectacular displays of gore, like the Saw series, and dark comedy, such as Braindead...
In Toxic Avenger, the guy basically mashes his opponent into pulp, rolls them into a ball, and plays basketball with the corpse...
Braindead featured that scene where the baby’s head is split open from the inside, along with zombies being mowed down by a lawnmower amidst endless gallons of blood, guts, and viscera...
The series featured some almost spectacular violence that the audience clearly relished. There was that one trap where a character is suspended in mid-air, facing massive ice blocks intended to crush his skull, while another is set to be electrocuted if the protagonist makes a wrong move or fails to act in time...
The Friday the 13th series was always defined by its relentless streak of violence... Think about it: characters being strapped to trees by their heads and tightened until they literally burst, or the constant dismemberment of limbs and heads... It was brutal...
The Hatchet trilogy certainly didn't pull any punches when it came to the gore, ranging from dismemberment by hand to full-on evisceration...
That Elm Street stretch has the most iconic scene, where Johnny Depp falls asleep only to crash straight through the bed into a room flooded with gallons of blood...
Rambo IV isn't exactly a horror movie, but it definitely belongs on a list of the most brutal films out there. We're talking limbs being torn off, bodies getting absolutely shredded, and people being turned into literal mush under heavy machine gun fire...
The Feast trilogy features these small, frenetic creatures that tear through people, ripping limbs right off. It covers everything from total bodily disintegration to heads being devoured, and even that sequence where the remains are expelled through the monster's anus...
Evil Dead II features scenes like a character sawing off his own hand after being possessed by a demon, jamming a chainsaw into a giant demon's eye, and even splitting a head in half with a chainsaw...
Scanner had that iconic scene where he just obliterates someone's head using only his mind...

How brutal a movie actually is depends entirely on the film in question. Tarantino’s work tends to lean more toward an artistic style. Take the finale of *Django Unchained*—it’s a bloodbath, walls drenched in red. Then there’s *The Hateful Eight*, where the ending leaves literal gallons of blood on the floor. In any realistic scenario, most of those characters would have succumbed to infection long before the credits rolled. Movies like *Evil Dead II* or *Braindead* definitely fell into that splatter category—heavy on the gore, violence, and dark humor. Yet, the actual violence is rarely shown directly. You see a character intending to slice through their own arm with a chainsaw, but the camera cuts away to their face as it gets splattered with blood. It's similar with *Scarface*; that infamous chainsaw scene earned it a notorious reputation, but much like *Evil Dead II*, the shot shifts to the victim as they're covered in their friend's blood...

The *Hatchet* trilogy is a masterclass in pure brutality. It offers zero censorship, just a massive brute tearing characters in half with his bare hands... The *Saw* series belongs in that same category of visceral violence, whether it’s limbs being ripped out by traps or acid dissolving chests. Even the scenes where heavy walls crush bone belong there. Then you have the *Piranha* films, which featured those absurdly gory moments involving mutated fish attacking survivors...

It brings to mind those space soldier flicks that always seemed to cast up-and-coming young actors, featuring soap opera plots interrupted by graphic scenes of soldiers being torn apart by alien insects—and vice versa. It was always quite detailed... even RoboCop had that infamous sequence where the villain ends up in a trash compactor, showing his skin peeling right off his body...

For them, violence is mostly just spectacle. Take the *Death Race* franchise, for example... The only ones that really crossed the line were exploitation flicks like the *Ilsa* series, which featured explicit scenes of torture and such...

Across
European filmmakers launched a wave of horror that was significantly more brutal and heavy-hitting than anything coming out of the States. *High Tension*, *Inside*, *Martyrs*, *Frontier*... *Inside* is particularly disturbing, a grueling watch about a woman stalking a pregnant woman, filled with explicit violence and a "realistic atmosphere" that makes you feel like it could happen to anyone...
That German necrophiliac who had sex scenes with a corpse
*Aftermath* is presented as a short snuff film featuring the torture and rape of a female corpse
*Cannibal Holocaust* is one of the most famous Italian horrors, boasting a realistic vibe since it was shot like a documentary. It was convincing enough to cause a massive scandal in Italy. Even though it features several violent sequences, like a group rape by savages, which caused quite a stir back then
The Mexican film had a nauseating atmosphere, a scene involving the rape of an infant, and a final climax. That movie also caused an uproar, though today it likely ends up forgotten as a film that uses heaps of violence and sexual assault to mask "false" critiques of the state and society
*The Life and Death of a Porn Gang* included an explicit scene where a man's head is crushed with a sledgehammer as he sacrifices himself to feed his family
*City of the Living Dead* featured a somewhat less nauseating scene involving a drill being used on someone's head, which was unthinkable at the time
The *Demons* series also featured excessive violence, leaving audiences in theaters surrounded by demons
*Adam Chaplin*—an Italian surrealist horror where a character seeks revenge for his girlfriend's death and becomes a demon. Faces turn to mush, limbs are torn off, blood sprays everywhere...

European films tend to be more "realistic" regarding violence and atmosphere. Their brutality isn't portrayed as entertainment the way American films often do; instead, it’s designed to shock the public, much like the Mexican film or *Cannibal Holocaust*

And the Japanese are a whole different story...
Over there, genitals are a taboo subject, but everything else is fair game. Their films frequently push into extremes, ranging from the *pink violence* genre to *pink eiga*. I forget the exact definitions, but *pink eiga* usually refers to films where women are tortured and sexually assaulted (like the *Flower and Snake* series), whereas *pink violence* is the opposite—women fighting back (*Sex and Fury*)

*Story of Rick* is a combat film where the protagonist gets a cut on his hand, stops the bleeding using his teeth and his own veins, and the main villain ends up in a meat grinder

*Entrails of a Beautiful Woman*—A tortured and raped young girl mutates into a penis-headed demon and mutilates her captors

*Hellsing Ultimate*—an anime that includes an explicit scene of the protagonist scraping a female villain's face against a wall until only half remains... The rest is classic stuff: tearing limbs, dismemberment, splitting bodies in half, showing entrails...

*Tokyo Gore Police*, *Machine Girl*, or *Meatball Machine*—Japanese splatter horror with cyberpunk elements... Ranging from grotesque scenes of decaying flesh to metamorphoses and people merging flesh with technology

*Entrails of a Virgin*—Members of a film crew making a softcore porn are dismembered by a demon in a warehouse

*Ebola Syndrome*—not Japanese, but from Hong Kong. It’s about a psychopath who snaps at the start, kills people, and pours gasoline on a young girl to set her on fire. The film included a scene where he rapes a Black woman in Africa, causing his penis to get stuck inside her, leading to him contracting Ebola and spreading it through the city... All wrapped up in black comedy

*Ichi the Killer*—Takashi Miike is essentially a Japanese Tarantino. They used to hand out bags for vomiting in theaters during his screenings. The film itself includes scenes like a severed piece of a face sticking to a wall and slowly sliding down. It's a love story about a lonely figure obsessed with schoolyard abuse who, when overwhelmed by emotion, goes feral and kills people with razor blades hidden in shoes... plus some sadomasochism

*Battle Royale*—teenagers end up on an island, and only one can survive. An absolute deluge of violence

It seems Japanese creators have developed an extreme obsession with violence lately. It’s more artistic, especially in manga. *Berserk* stands out as one of the most brutal examples, utilizing incredibly detailed and visceral imagery to depict carnage. A recurring theme is the victimization of women, often involving sexual assault. You see similar patterns in *Devilman*, whether it's the male or female versions transforming into demons. Even their 80s anime were notorious for explicit violence—think giant monsters tearing people apart like insects—with a heavy emphasis on rape scenes. Then there's *Violence Jack*, a post-apocalyptic animated film where male gangs are split into various factions, all driven by the desire to assault women.

They’ve produced countless genres with names too bizarre to even conceptualize. The only real distinction is that they face zero restrictions regarding the depiction of violence... As if it’s all perfectly normal to them, ranging from the harmless fetish of licking corpses to the graphic sight of a tiger devouring a regenerating woman who is then used by her family for torture... Or a woman being sliced in half, only to engage in sex with herself...

I agree with this. 🙂

crimsonmoose3 said:Man, I’ve really let my tastes slide into nothing but sex and violence lately, ever since the golden age of splatter horror wrapped up...

Since this theme surrounds us, it inevitably bleeds into cinema. What I’m curious about is whether the portrayal depends entirely on where the film was produced. How will violence and sexuality be presented within European, American, or Asian cultures? Will the approach be literal or more metaphorical? If you have specific examples, please share them...

Obviously, it depends...
Americans certainly have their fair share of violent cinema and distinct eras: grindhouse, exploitation, splatter, slashers, and the heavy-handed stuff... Their approach to violence tends to fluctuate between spectacular displays of gore, like the Saw series, and dark comedy, such as Braindead...
In Toxic Avenger, the guy basically mashes his opponent into pulp, rolls them into a ball, and plays basketball with the corpse...
Braindead featured that scene where the baby’s head is split open from the inside, along with zombies being mowed down by a lawnmower amidst endless gallons of blood, guts, and viscera...
The series featured some almost spectacular violence that the audience clearly relished. There was that one trap where a character is suspended in mid-air, facing massive ice blocks intended to crush his skull, while another is set to be electrocuted if the protagonist makes a wrong move or fails to act in time...
The Friday the 13th series was always defined by its relentless streak of violence... Think about it: characters being strapped to trees by their heads and tightened until they literally burst, or the constant dismemberment of limbs and heads... It was brutal...
The Hatchet trilogy certainly didn't pull any punches when it came to the gore, ranging from dismemberment by hand to full-on evisceration...
That Elm Street stretch has the most iconic scene, where Johnny Depp falls asleep only to crash straight through the bed into a room flooded with gallons of blood...
Rambo IV isn't exactly a horror movie, but it definitely belongs on a list of the most brutal films out there. We're talking limbs being torn off, bodies getting absolutely shredded, and people being turned into literal mush under heavy machine gun fire...
The Feast trilogy features these small, frenetic creatures that tear through people, ripping limbs right off. It covers everything from total bodily disintegration to heads being devoured, and even that sequence where the remains are expelled through the monster's anus...
Evil Dead II features scenes like a character sawing off his own hand after being possessed by a demon, jamming a chainsaw into a giant demon's eye, and even splitting a head in half with a chainsaw...
Scanner had that iconic scene where he just obliterates someone's head using only his mind...

How brutal a movie actually is depends entirely on the film in question. Tarantino’s work tends to lean more toward an artistic style. Take the finale of *Django Unchained*—it’s a bloodbath, walls drenched in red. Then there’s *The Hateful Eight*, where the ending leaves literal gallons of blood on the floor. In any realistic scenario, most of those characters would have succumbed to infection long before the credits rolled. Movies like *Evil Dead II* or *Braindead* definitely fell into that splatter category—heavy on the gore, violence, and dark humor. Yet, the actual violence is rarely shown directly. You see a character intending to slice through their own arm with a chainsaw, but the camera cuts away to their face as it gets splattered with blood. It's similar with *Scarface*; that infamous chainsaw scene earned it a notorious reputation, but much like *Evil Dead II*, the shot shifts to the victim as they're covered in their friend's blood...

The *Hatchet* trilogy is a masterclass in pure brutality. It offers zero censorship, just a massive brute tearing characters in half with his bare hands... The *Saw* series belongs in that same category of visceral violence, whether it’s limbs being ripped out by traps or acid dissolving chests. Even the scenes where heavy walls crush bone belong there. Then you have the *Piranha* films, which featured those absurdly gory moments involving mutated fish attacking survivors...

It brings to mind those space soldier flicks that always seemed to cast up-and-coming young actors, featuring soap opera plots interrupted by graphic scenes of soldiers being torn apart by alien insects—and vice versa. It was always quite detailed... even RoboCop had that infamous sequence where the villain ends up in a trash compactor, showing his skin peeling right off his body...

For them, violence is mostly just spectacle. Take the *Death Race* franchise, for example... The only ones that really crossed the line were exploitation flicks like the *Ilsa* series, which featured explicit scenes of torture and such...

Across
European filmmakers launched a wave of horror that was significantly more brutal and heavy-hitting than anything coming out of the States. *High Tension*, *Inside*, *Martyrs*, *Frontier*... *Inside* is particularly disturbing, a grueling watch about a woman stalking a pregnant woman, filled with explicit violence and a "realistic atmosphere" that makes you feel like it could happen to anyone...
That German necrophiliac who had sex scenes with a corpse
*Aftermath* is presented as a short snuff film featuring the torture and rape of a female corpse
*Cannibal Holocaust* is one of the most famous Italian horrors, boasting a realistic vibe since it was shot like a documentary. It was convincing enough to cause a massive scandal in Italy. Even though it features several violent sequences, like a group rape by savages, which caused quite a stir back then
The Mexican film had a nauseating atmosphere, a scene involving the rape of an infant, and a final climax. That movie also caused an uproar, though today it likely ends up forgotten as a film that uses heaps of violence and sexual assault to mask "false" critiques of the state and society
*The Life and Death of a Porn Gang* included an explicit scene where a man's head is crushed with a sledgehammer as he sacrifices himself to feed his family
*City of the Living Dead* featured a somewhat less nauseating scene involving a drill being used on someone's head, which was unthinkable at the time
The *Demons* series also featured excessive violence, leaving audiences in theaters surrounded by demons
*Adam Chaplin*—an Italian surrealist horror where a character seeks revenge for his girlfriend's death and becomes a demon. Faces turn to mush, limbs are torn off, blood sprays everywhere...

European films tend to be more "realistic" regarding violence and atmosphere. Their brutality isn't portrayed as entertainment the way American films often do; instead, it’s designed to shock the public, much like the Mexican film or *Cannibal Holocaust*

And the Japanese are a whole different story...
Over there, genitals are a taboo subject, but everything else is fair game. Their films frequently push into extremes, ranging from the *pink violence* genre to *pink eiga*. I forget the exact definitions, but *pink eiga* usually refers to films where women are tortured and sexually assaulted (like the *Flower and Snake* series), whereas *pink violence* is the opposite—women fighting back (*Sex and Fury*)

*Story of Rick* is a combat film where the protagonist gets a cut on his hand, stops the bleeding using his teeth and his own veins, and the main villain ends up in a meat grinder

*Entrails of a Beautiful Woman*—A tortured and raped young girl mutates into a penis-headed demon and mutilates her captors

*Hellsing Ultimate*—an anime that includes an explicit scene of the protagonist scraping a female villain's face against a wall until only half remains... The rest is classic stuff: tearing limbs, dismemberment, splitting bodies in half, showing entrails...

*Tokyo Gore Police*, *Machine Girl*, or *Meatball Machine*—Japanese splatter horror with cyberpunk elements... Ranging from grotesque scenes of decaying flesh to metamorphoses and people merging flesh with technology

*Entrails of a Virgin*—Members of a film crew making a softcore porn are dismembered by a demon in a warehouse

*Ebola Syndrome*—not Japanese, but from Hong Kong. It’s about a psychopath who snaps at the start, kills people, and pours gasoline on a young girl to set her on fire. The film included a scene where he rapes a Black woman in Africa, causing his penis to get stuck inside her, leading to him contracting Ebola and spreading it through the city... All wrapped up in black comedy

*Ichi the Killer*—Takashi Miike is essentially a Japanese Tarantino. They used to hand out bags for vomiting in theaters during his screenings. The film itself includes scenes like a severed piece of a face sticking to a wall and slowly sliding down. It's a love story about a lonely figure obsessed with schoolyard abuse who, when overwhelmed by emotion, goes feral and kills people with razor blades hidden in shoes... plus some sadomasochism

*Battle Royale*—teenagers end up on an island, and only one can survive. An absolute deluge of violence

It seems Japanese creators have developed an extreme obsession with violence lately. It’s more artistic, especially in manga. *Berserk* stands out as one of the most brutal examples, utilizing incredibly detailed and visceral imagery to depict carnage. A recurring theme is the victimization of women, often involving sexual assault. You see similar patterns in *Devilman*, whether it's the male or female versions transforming into demons. Even their 80s anime were notorious for explicit violence—think giant monsters tearing people apart like insects—with a heavy emphasis on rape scenes. Then there's *Violence Jack*, a post-apocalyptic animated film where male gangs are split into various factions, all driven by the desire to assault women.

They’ve produced countless genres with names too bizarre to even conceptualize. The only real distinction is that they face zero restrictions regarding the depiction of violence... As if it’s all perfectly normal to them, ranging from the harmless fetish of licking corpses to the graphic sight of a tiger devouring a regenerating woman who is then used by her family for torture... Or a woman being sliced in half, only to engage in sex with herself...

I agree with that too. This same reality applies to sex scenes. It makes me wonder—what is America so afraid of? Why all the caricatures?

crimsonmoose3 said:Man, I’ve really let my tastes slide into nothing but sex and violence lately, ever since the golden age of splatter horror wrapped up...

Since this theme surrounds us, it inevitably bleeds into cinema. What I’m curious about is whether the portrayal depends entirely on where the film was produced. How will violence and sexuality be presented within European, American, or Asian cultures? Will the approach be literal or more metaphorical? If you have specific examples, please share them...

Obviously, it depends...
Americans certainly have their fair share of violent cinema and distinct eras: grindhouse, exploitation, splatter, slashers, and the heavy-handed stuff... Their approach to violence tends to fluctuate between spectacular displays of gore, like the Saw series, and dark comedy, such as Braindead...
In Toxic Avenger, the guy basically mashes his opponent into pulp, rolls them into a ball, and plays basketball with the corpse...
Braindead featured that scene where the baby’s head is split open from the inside, along with zombies being mowed down by a lawnmower amidst endless gallons of blood, guts, and viscera...
The series featured some almost spectacular violence that the audience clearly relished. There was that one trap where a character is suspended in mid-air, facing massive ice blocks intended to crush his skull, while another is set to be electrocuted if the protagonist makes a wrong move or fails to act in time...
The Friday the 13th series was always defined by its relentless streak of violence... Think about it: characters being strapped to trees by their heads and tightened until they literally burst, or the constant dismemberment of limbs and heads... It was brutal...
The Hatchet trilogy certainly didn't pull any punches when it came to the gore, ranging from dismemberment by hand to full-on evisceration...
That Elm Street stretch has the most iconic scene, where Johnny Depp falls asleep only to crash straight through the bed into a room flooded with gallons of blood...
Rambo IV isn't exactly a horror movie, but it definitely belongs on a list of the most brutal films out there. We're talking limbs being torn off, bodies getting absolutely shredded, and people being turned into literal mush under heavy machine gun fire...
The Feast trilogy features these small, frenetic creatures that tear through people, ripping limbs right off. It covers everything from total bodily disintegration to heads being devoured, and even that sequence where the remains are expelled through the monster's anus...
Evil Dead II features scenes like a character sawing off his own hand after being possessed by a demon, jamming a chainsaw into a giant demon's eye, and even splitting a head in half with a chainsaw...
Scanner had that iconic scene where he just obliterates someone's head using only his mind...

How brutal a movie actually is depends entirely on the film in question. Tarantino’s work tends to lean more toward an artistic style. Take the finale of *Django Unchained*—it’s a bloodbath, walls drenched in red. Then there’s *The Hateful Eight*, where the ending leaves literal gallons of blood on the floor. In any realistic scenario, most of those characters would have succumbed to infection long before the credits rolled. Movies like *Evil Dead II* or *Braindead* definitely fell into that splatter category—heavy on the gore, violence, and dark humor. Yet, the actual violence is rarely shown directly. You see a character intending to slice through their own arm with a chainsaw, but the camera cuts away to their face as it gets splattered with blood. It's similar with *Scarface*; that infamous chainsaw scene earned it a notorious reputation, but much like *Evil Dead II*, the shot shifts to the victim as they're covered in their friend's blood...

The *Hatchet* trilogy is a masterclass in pure brutality. It offers zero censorship, just a massive brute tearing characters in half with his bare hands... The *Saw* series belongs in that same category of visceral violence, whether it’s limbs being ripped out by traps or acid dissolving chests. Even the scenes where heavy walls crush bone belong there. Then you have the *Piranha* films, which featured those absurdly gory moments involving mutated fish attacking survivors...

It brings to mind those space soldier flicks that always seemed to cast up-and-coming young actors, featuring soap opera plots interrupted by graphic scenes of soldiers being torn apart by alien insects—and vice versa. It was always quite detailed... even RoboCop had that infamous sequence where the villain ends up in a trash compactor, showing his skin peeling right off his body...

For them, violence is mostly just spectacle. Take the *Death Race* franchise, for example... The only ones that really crossed the line were exploitation flicks like the *Ilsa* series, which featured explicit scenes of torture and such...

Across
European filmmakers launched a wave of horror that was significantly more brutal and heavy-hitting than anything coming out of the States. *High Tension*, *Inside*, *Martyrs*, *Frontier*... *Inside* is particularly disturbing, a grueling watch about a woman stalking a pregnant woman, filled with explicit violence and a "realistic atmosphere" that makes you feel like it could happen to anyone...
That German necrophiliac who had sex scenes with a corpse
*Aftermath* is presented as a short snuff film featuring the torture and rape of a female corpse
*Cannibal Holocaust* is one of the most famous Italian horrors, boasting a realistic vibe since it was shot like a documentary. It was convincing enough to cause a massive scandal in Italy. Even though it features several violent sequences, like a group rape by savages, which caused quite a stir back then
The Mexican film had a nauseating atmosphere, a scene involving the rape of an infant, and a final climax. That movie also caused an uproar, though today it likely ends up forgotten as a film that uses heaps of violence and sexual assault to mask "false" critiques of the state and society
*The Life and Death of a Porn Gang* included an explicit scene where a man's head is crushed with a sledgehammer as he sacrifices himself to feed his family
*City of the Living Dead* featured a somewhat less nauseating scene involving a drill being used on someone's head, which was unthinkable at the time
The *Demons* series also featured excessive violence, leaving audiences in theaters surrounded by demons
*Adam Chaplin*—an Italian surrealist horror where a character seeks revenge for his girlfriend's death and becomes a demon. Faces turn to mush, limbs are torn off, blood sprays everywhere...

European films tend to be more "realistic" regarding violence and atmosphere. Their brutality isn't portrayed as entertainment the way American films often do; instead, it’s designed to shock the public, much like the Mexican film or *Cannibal Holocaust*

And the Japanese are a whole different story...
Over there, genitals are a taboo subject, but everything else is fair game. Their films frequently push into extremes, ranging from the *pink violence* genre to *pink eiga*. I forget the exact definitions, but *pink eiga* usually refers to films where women are tortured and sexually assaulted (like the *Flower and Snake* series), whereas *pink violence* is the opposite—women fighting back (*Sex and Fury*)

*Story of Rick* is a combat film where the protagonist gets a cut on his hand, stops the bleeding using his teeth and his own veins, and the main villain ends up in a meat grinder

*Entrails of a Beautiful Woman*—A tortured and raped young girl mutates into a penis-headed demon and mutilates her captors

*Hellsing Ultimate*—an anime that includes an explicit scene of the protagonist scraping a female villain's face against a wall until only half remains... The rest is classic stuff: tearing limbs, dismemberment, splitting bodies in half, showing entrails...

*Tokyo Gore Police*, *Machine Girl*, or *Meatball Machine*—Japanese splatter horror with cyberpunk elements... Ranging from grotesque scenes of decaying flesh to metamorphoses and people merging flesh with technology

*Entrails of a Virgin*—Members of a film crew making a softcore porn are dismembered by a demon in a warehouse

*Ebola Syndrome*—not Japanese, but from Hong Kong. It’s about a psychopath who snaps at the start, kills people, and pours gasoline on a young girl to set her on fire. The film included a scene where he rapes a Black woman in Africa, causing his penis to get stuck inside her, leading to him contracting Ebola and spreading it through the city... All wrapped up in black comedy

*Ichi the Killer*—Takashi Miike is essentially a Japanese Tarantino. They used to hand out bags for vomiting in theaters during his screenings. The film itself includes scenes like a severed piece of a face sticking to a wall and slowly sliding down. It's a love story about a lonely figure obsessed with schoolyard abuse who, when overwhelmed by emotion, goes feral and kills people with razor blades hidden in shoes... plus some sadomasochism

*Battle Royale*—teenagers end up on an island, and only one can survive. An absolute deluge of violence

It seems Japanese creators have developed an extreme obsession with violence lately. It’s more artistic, especially in manga. *Berserk* stands out as one of the most brutal examples, utilizing incredibly detailed and visceral imagery to depict carnage. A recurring theme is the victimization of women, often involving sexual assault. You see similar patterns in *Devilman*, whether it's the male or female versions transforming into demons. Even their 80s anime were notorious for explicit violence—think giant monsters tearing people apart like insects—with a heavy emphasis on rape scenes. Then there's *Violence Jack*, a post-apocalyptic animated film where male gangs are split into various factions, all driven by the desire to assault women.

They’ve produced countless genres with names too bizarre to even conceptualize. The only real distinction is that they face zero restrictions regarding the depiction of violence... As if it’s all perfectly normal to them, ranging from the harmless fetish of licking corpses to the graphic sight of a tiger devouring a regenerating woman who is then used by her family for torture... Or a woman being sliced in half, only to engage in sex with herself...

First point. I definitely need to look into this. 🙂

crimsonmoose3 said:Man, I’ve really let my tastes slide into nothing but sex and violence lately, ever since the golden age of splatter horror wrapped up...

Since this theme surrounds us, it inevitably bleeds into cinema. What I’m curious about is whether the portrayal depends entirely on where the film was produced. How will violence and sexuality be presented within European, American, or Asian cultures? Will the approach be literal or more metaphorical? If you have specific examples, please share them...

Obviously, it depends...
Americans certainly have their fair share of violent cinema and distinct eras: grindhouse, exploitation, splatter, slashers, and the heavy-handed stuff... Their approach to violence tends to fluctuate between spectacular displays of gore, like the Saw series, and dark comedy, such as Braindead...
In Toxic Avenger, the guy basically mashes his opponent into pulp, rolls them into a ball, and plays basketball with the corpse...
Braindead featured that scene where the baby’s head is split open from the inside, along with zombies being mowed down by a lawnmower amidst endless gallons of blood, guts, and viscera...
The series featured some almost spectacular violence that the audience clearly relished. There was that one trap where a character is suspended in mid-air, facing massive ice blocks intended to crush his skull, while another is set to be electrocuted if the protagonist makes a wrong move or fails to act in time...
The Friday the 13th series was always defined by its relentless streak of violence... Think about it: characters being strapped to trees by their heads and tightened until they literally burst, or the constant dismemberment of limbs and heads... It was brutal...
The Hatchet trilogy certainly didn't pull any punches when it came to the gore, ranging from dismemberment by hand to full-on evisceration...
That Elm Street stretch has the most iconic scene, where Johnny Depp falls asleep only to crash straight through the bed into a room flooded with gallons of blood...
Rambo IV isn't exactly a horror movie, but it definitely belongs on a list of the most brutal films out there. We're talking limbs being torn off, bodies getting absolutely shredded, and people being turned into literal mush under heavy machine gun fire...
The Feast trilogy features these small, frenetic creatures that tear through people, ripping limbs right off. It covers everything from total bodily disintegration to heads being devoured, and even that sequence where the remains are expelled through the monster's anus...
Evil Dead II features scenes like a character sawing off his own hand after being possessed by a demon, jamming a chainsaw into a giant demon's eye, and even splitting a head in half with a chainsaw...
Scanner had that iconic scene where he just obliterates someone's head using only his mind...

How brutal a movie actually is depends entirely on the film in question. Tarantino’s work tends to lean more toward an artistic style. Take the finale of *Django Unchained*—it’s a bloodbath, walls drenched in red. Then there’s *The Hateful Eight*, where the ending leaves literal gallons of blood on the floor. In any realistic scenario, most of those characters would have succumbed to infection long before the credits rolled. Movies like *Evil Dead II* or *Braindead* definitely fell into that splatter category—heavy on the gore, violence, and dark humor. Yet, the actual violence is rarely shown directly. You see a character intending to slice through their own arm with a chainsaw, but the camera cuts away to their face as it gets splattered with blood. It's similar with *Scarface*; that infamous chainsaw scene earned it a notorious reputation, but much like *Evil Dead II*, the shot shifts to the victim as they're covered in their friend's blood...

The *Hatchet* trilogy is a masterclass in pure brutality. It offers zero censorship, just a massive brute tearing characters in half with his bare hands... The *Saw* series belongs in that same category of visceral violence, whether it’s limbs being ripped out by traps or acid dissolving chests. Even the scenes where heavy walls crush bone belong there. Then you have the *Piranha* films, which featured those absurdly gory moments involving mutated fish attacking survivors...

It brings to mind those space soldier flicks that always seemed to cast up-and-coming young actors, featuring soap opera plots interrupted by graphic scenes of soldiers being torn apart by alien insects—and vice versa. It was always quite detailed... even RoboCop had that infamous sequence where the villain ends up in a trash compactor, showing his skin peeling right off his body...

For them, violence is mostly just spectacle. Take the *Death Race* franchise, for example... The only ones that really crossed the line were exploitation flicks like the *Ilsa* series, which featured explicit scenes of torture and such...

Across
European filmmakers launched a wave of horror that was significantly more brutal and heavy-hitting than anything coming out of the States. *High Tension*, *Inside*, *Martyrs*, *Frontier*... *Inside* is particularly disturbing, a grueling watch about a woman stalking a pregnant woman, filled with explicit violence and a "realistic atmosphere" that makes you feel like it could happen to anyone...
That German necrophiliac who had sex scenes with a corpse
*Aftermath* is presented as a short snuff film featuring the torture and rape of a female corpse
*Cannibal Holocaust* is one of the most famous Italian horrors, boasting a realistic vibe since it was shot like a documentary. It was convincing enough to cause a massive scandal in Italy. Even though it features several violent sequences, like a group rape by savages, which caused quite a stir back then
The Mexican film had a nauseating atmosphere, a scene involving the rape of an infant, and a final climax. That movie also caused an uproar, though today it likely ends up forgotten as a film that uses heaps of violence and sexual assault to mask "false" critiques of the state and society
*The Life and Death of a Porn Gang* included an explicit scene where a man's head is crushed with a sledgehammer as he sacrifices himself to feed his family
*City of the Living Dead* featured a somewhat less nauseating scene involving a drill being used on someone's head, which was unthinkable at the time
The *Demons* series also featured excessive violence, leaving audiences in theaters surrounded by demons
*Adam Chaplin*—an Italian surrealist horror where a character seeks revenge for his girlfriend's death and becomes a demon. Faces turn to mush, limbs are torn off, blood sprays everywhere...

European films tend to be more "realistic" regarding violence and atmosphere. Their brutality isn't portrayed as entertainment the way American films often do; instead, it’s designed to shock the public, much like the Mexican film or *Cannibal Holocaust*

And the Japanese are a whole different story...
Over there, genitals are a taboo subject, but everything else is fair game. Their films frequently push into extremes, ranging from the *pink violence* genre to *pink eiga*. I forget the exact definitions, but *pink eiga* usually refers to films where women are tortured and sexually assaulted (like the *Flower and Snake* series), whereas *pink violence* is the opposite—women fighting back (*Sex and Fury*)

*Story of Rick* is a combat film where the protagonist gets a cut on his hand, stops the bleeding using his teeth and his own veins, and the main villain ends up in a meat grinder

*Entrails of a Beautiful Woman*—A tortured and raped young girl mutates into a penis-headed demon and mutilates her captors

*Hellsing Ultimate*—an anime that includes an explicit scene of the protagonist scraping a female villain's face against a wall until only half remains... The rest is classic stuff: tearing limbs, dismemberment, splitting bodies in half, showing entrails...

*Tokyo Gore Police*, *Machine Girl*, or *Meatball Machine*—Japanese splatter horror with cyberpunk elements... Ranging from grotesque scenes of decaying flesh to metamorphoses and people merging flesh with technology

*Entrails of a Virgin*—Members of a film crew making a softcore porn are dismembered by a demon in a warehouse

*Ebola Syndrome*—not Japanese, but from Hong Kong. It’s about a psychopath who snaps at the start, kills people, and pours gasoline on a young girl to set her on fire. The film included a scene where he rapes a Black woman in Africa, causing his penis to get stuck inside her, leading to him contracting Ebola and spreading it through the city... All wrapped up in black comedy

*Ichi the Killer*—Takashi Miike is essentially a Japanese Tarantino. They used to hand out bags for vomiting in theaters during his screenings. The film itself includes scenes like a severed piece of a face sticking to a wall and slowly sliding down. It's a love story about a lonely figure obsessed with schoolyard abuse who, when overwhelmed by emotion, goes feral and kills people with razor blades hidden in shoes... plus some sadomasochism

*Battle Royale*—teenagers end up on an island, and only one can survive. An absolute deluge of violence

It seems Japanese creators have developed an extreme obsession with violence lately. It’s more artistic, especially in manga. *Berserk* stands out as one of the most brutal examples, utilizing incredibly detailed and visceral imagery to depict carnage. A recurring theme is the victimization of women, often involving sexual assault. You see similar patterns in *Devilman*, whether it's the male or female versions transforming into demons. Even their 80s anime were notorious for explicit violence—think giant monsters tearing people apart like insects—with a heavy emphasis on rape scenes. Then there's *Violence Jack*, a post-apocalyptic animated film where male gangs are split into various factions, all driven by the desire to assault women.

They’ve produced countless genres with names too bizarre to even conceptualize. The only real distinction is that they face zero restrictions regarding the depiction of violence... As if it’s all perfectly normal to them, ranging from the harmless fetish of licking corpses to the graphic sight of a tiger devouring a regenerating woman who is then used by her family for torture... Or a woman being sliced in half, only to engage in sex with herself...

I don't know about that... Every time this comes up, I just think back to that one particularly "productive" year:

Blue Is the Warmest Color [2013]
Nymphomaniac: Vol. I [2013]
Concert Announcements - Archive in Music ·
November 28th | Vintage Industrial Bar | New York City

Jonathan 🙂
Violence and sex have been part of the human experience since we first started walking upright. No matter where you are on the map, these themes are woven into every layer of life, from our public institutions to our most private moments.

Since they're everywhere, they naturally show up in cinema too. What I’m curious about is whether the way they're portrayed depends on where the movie was made. How do violence and sex differ when presented through the lens of European, American, or Asian cultures? Is it literal or more metaphorical? If you have specific examples, please share them. 😁

How much of the violence shown is actually realistic, and how much is exaggerated just to leave an artistic mark? When I watch Tarantino movies, sometimes I feel like I’m looking at a Pollock painting. It feels like there's a certain level of creative license being applied.
Which films build up the tension gradually, and which ones just go straight for the jugular? Also, why is it that in a typical American film, the violence usually starts with small groups before one or two characters end up taking on a massive crowd?

Do you think violence in any given culture is just a plot device, or is there an attempt to trigger a genuine emotional response—like empathy for the victim?

Does culture also dictate the limits of how sex is depicted, making European or Asian films look different from, say, American ones? It feels like American films often dodge the actual depiction of sexuality; two people might just lock eyes and then suddenly they're in bed (to caricature the point), leaving us to imagine the rest. In European or Asian cinema, more of that is actually shown, giving the viewer more to work with visually.

Finally, Margot Robbie once mentioned that audiences seem more shocked by sex on screen than by violence. How do you explain that, considering we deal with plenty of both in the real world? 😳

Too many questions, I know. 😬 Looking forward to the comparisons.
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November 26th at 8 PM | Tvornica Kultura in New York City

Mark Lanegan
Boeing Burning (2018) in Movies ·
fadedmason7 said:Boeing (2018)
The only redeeming qualities arethe soundtrack and the cinematography. 5/10

Finally, a sensible rating. 🙂
Do you guys actually buy music? in Music ·
ruggedharbor17 said:Look, mine don't have any scratches, so I still listen to them. If you put them under a bright light, you won't see a single mark.

The thing is, some of mine are pretty beat up from actual use, which is exactly why I stopped playing them. Are you really going to try and tell me again that yours look brand new?😁
Do you guys actually buy music? in Music ·
ruggedharbor17 said:How do you even destroy a CD? First off, that's a ridiculous question.

There shouldn't be any scratches on it. 😳 It just sits there on my shelf as a little tribute to someone's hard work.
Do you guys actually buy music? in Music ·
I collect CDs. I don't actually listen to them much because I hate the idea of wearing them out, but there’s just something about owning them. 😁

granitecyclist said:Does anyone else here listen to—or actively support—those various "indie" acts on Bandcamp? Not just the obscure stuff, but the genuinely interesting ones outside the mainstream. Have you ever donated to or supported an artist directly through there? Any recommendations for us?

Jonathan, absolutely.
What defines a "heavy" movie? in Movies ·
Bryan Rogers87 said:Nobody brought up City of God... which features an equally emotional killer.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317248...1?ref_=nv_sr_1

It wasn't hard enough for me to define the whole experience by it, but the cinematography was definitely 😍.
What defines a "heavy" movie? in Movies ·
I can't say I was surprised by that outcome. It felt inevitable from the start. Someone actually brought up *Incendies*, *The Stranger*, and *Girl* in my comments.

In my first post, I mentioned that there are two different ways a movie can be genuinely difficult to sit through. I’d say *Irreversible* hits both of those categories at once.
I felt like a total villain at the movies once. 😍

I was at my usual indie theater in Seattle, just sitting there waiting for the film to start. There were two ladies, probably in their 60s, sitting right behind me. A few people up in the balcony, maybe, but I couldn't see them. As for the seats in front of me? Not a single soul. Pure bliss. 😍

Then, out of nowhere, one of those women taps me on the shoulder and tells me I need to move so they can get a better view. For a split second, I was actually naive enough to start gathering my stuff to move, before realizing what an idiot I was being. I decided to pivot into my villain era right then and there. I told them there was plenty of room and suggested *they* be the ones to move instead!

"We're older..."
"So arrogant..."
"Ugh..."
(...)

The moral of the story is that you shouldn't let everyone walk all over you. Some people seem to think that buying a ticket gives them ownership of the entire auditorium. Well, not on my watch!