Gregory Mendoza3, man, you are seriously drowning in this stuff... based on what I’ve seen, it’s no wonder you’re already talking about getting a whole new supply of the balm 😬 Luckily for me, I don't have nearly as much as you do—my patches are way fewer and way easier to deal with, so I can't even begin to imagine what you're going through. I'm pulling for you, hoping that "P" disappears fast and stays gone for good. It’s been five days since I started using the balm and so far, I’m feeling pretty good about it. Ever since they "discovered" olive oil for me, I’ve been using it to help wipe off the balm (which some people describe as being like resin or something), so I don't have to scrub like a maniac just to get everything off. Here’s how things are looking so far: I’ve got three spots on my scalp plus some on my ears (both inside and around them), and there's one spot where I can really see the progress, which is where I'm seeing the best results right now. Everywhere else, I don't even have redness anymore, though it isn't itching at the moment, and those other two spots aren't super obvious either, but I think they're doing okay. The inside of my ears has cleared up completely and finally feels nice and smooth to the touch, and again, no redness there. Behind my ears is also looking a lot better, though there's still a bit of a mark visible, it's just not red anymore... it looks like a dark skin tone now (probably from the balm because I didn't wash it off well enough 😘 ; it's a little harder to rub there because it hurts a bit—nothing major, though). On my chest, the patch hasn't shrunk yet, but the color has definitely changed, or at least that's my impression. I think it's a slightly lighter shade of red now (it was a much brighter red the day before yesterday and yesterday). My only real headache is down by the genitals, because applying the balm there is a pain and washing it off is even worse. It's still super red down there, even if I feel like it might be a tiny bit better today... the only time I really feel the struggle is downstairs... just this constant nagging ache (I don't even know what other word to use for it) and tension 😈. Nivea works okay, but I honestly think I’m going to have to switch to something else, especially for the lower areas, because it doesn't absorb that well and I probably won't even finish the tube. For my head and chest, it's fine, but for my ears, I'm sticking with the Chicago Balm. So, that's the update from my end, cheers to the crew 🤣
Gregory Mendoza3 said:obviously all the struggle is worth it if you actually hit that main goal😉
With my skin, first the scales started popping up and then they just peeled right off, and then this morning they showed up again... it honestly looks like this balm is stripping away layer after layer of that thickened buildup... basically nuking the psoriasis lesions one by one... But man, I am burning through this stuff so fast I’ll probably need a whole damn bucket to finish the job, but who cares as long as this crap finally clears up👍
So, this morning I tried wiping off some of the balm using olive oil and man, what a lifesaver... seriously, it was night and day—I didn't even have to use a sponge to get it off...🤣 🙏 The scaling has been gone since the second day, but I've still got that tightness, or maybe I should use Gregory Mendoza3's term and call them "little bumps"... the most painful spots are the narrow parts, specifically behind them and down toward the base of my "manhood"... To be real with you, the biggest headache is down there, which isn't exactly a surprise since the skin in that area is incredibly sensitive...👎 But hey, none of that matters once I finally reach the ultimate goal of kicking psoriasis out of my life for good👍
Gregory Mendoza3 said:Listen, Casey Miller9, maybe that isn't such a bad idea. Personally, I don't really use oil as a standalone treatment, but more like a way to thin out the balm... so letting it sit for a few minutes might actually work. I'll give it a shot tomorrow morning and see how it goes....
That A-Derma Exomega stuff Casey Miller9 is using? I think I'll give that a whirl once I finish this tub of Nivea. It sounds pretty solid (thanks for the tip, Casey Miller9)
I really need to hunt down a decent sea sponge, too, because the one I'm using right now is basically falling apart on me... maybe I should look for one of those authentic natural ones from the ocean... I'm sure I can find one somewhere online.
I guess I'll try mixing in some olive oil tomorrow morning as well... at least I've got plenty of that lying around. Honestly though, I can't stand the stuff (especially that smell)...🙂 It feels like I'm suddenly being bombarded by all these scented products.😬 This cream sounds awesome—and of course, I just bought a massive tub of Nivea, right? I think I'll switch over soon because Nivea just isn't cutting it for me, especially for my legs. I need something much stronger since nothing seems to soak in down there; my skin always feels so tight (or at least, that's how it feels to me).
Gregory Mendoza3 said:Look, there's one more thing that's driving me nuts. Even after I go all out with the olive oil before my shower, scrubbing up, and slathering on that Nivea lotion, I can still smell that weird, swampy musk. It’s like it just won't quit. Honestly, people at work are giving me some seriously strange looks—you know, those side-eyes where you can tell they're wondering what's going on with me? It's getting pretty awkward.😬
Well, I managed to snag a spot on the other side of the room, so luckily my colleague hasn't even started renaming things yet...🙂 I think I'm going to give olive oil a shot myself... Hey, Gregory Mendoza3, do I need to let it sit for a bit after I rub it on? Like, should I wait maybe five minutes or something before doing anything else?
Alright, here goes—as promised, I’m checking back in to give you guys my first impressions regarding the balm used by Michael Ramos3 (specifically, his father). I got my hands on it Friday morning and wasted no time applying it that same evening. Just like people warned me, the smell is incredibly intense; even before I opened the package, it smelled like some kind of dried meat 😬 And man, this stuff doesn't look appetizing at all—to me, it looks like a mix of tar and crude oil... just black and weird. Worst of all? It is a massive pain to apply. My biggest struggle is that I'm pretty hairy, so rubbing it in is a nightmare; you feel like you're basically pulling at your own hair because it's so greasy and sticky. Honestly, my head isn't much of an issue since I keep my hair trimmed very short, and I'll probably go full bald soon 🙂 but my real concern is down south on my genitals (I actually had to... uh... take care of things there on Saturday after the Friday application...👍). It’ll be interesting to see what the guys on my soccer team have to say about my showering routine...🤣 🤣 I live with my wife and kid in a tiny apartment (about 360 square feet), and I can tell you right now, the whole place reeks—that happened after just one treatment. My wife hasn't kicked me out yet, but I really hope this doesn't drag on for two or three months like Michael Ramos3 and his dad suggested, because I’m not sure she’s going to have that kind of patience 🙏 The bedsheets are a total disaster; after the first night, everything needs a wash, and I honestly don't know if the stains will come out (pro tip: use old rags—that's what I did, though I didn't realize it would be this messy). I'm washing the weekend's mess today, so we'll see if it actually comes out. And then there's the absolute worst part for me: the morning shower to get the balm off. It takes me about 45 minutes just to scrub myself clean (head, ears, chest, and genitals). This stuff is brutal to wash off; you practically have to scrape it off your skin because a simple rub just doesn't cut it... I'm going through shampoo like it's water. I went out to buy a heavy-duty sponge on Saturday, which helps, but it hurts when you're scrubbing so hard (the sponge already looks like it was swallowed by a swamp 🙂). I was warned that the balm stings on sensitive skin, and they weren't kidding... it stings on my genitals when I apply it near the top, and even on my eyelids... it's not unbearable, but you definitely feel it.👎 Basically, using this is a high-maintenance ordeal, but considering how brutal this disease is, I guess there isn't going to be some easy, breezy road to being Healed (or at least managed). So far, I haven't seen any major changes in the patches (which lines up with what I was told); if anything, it looks slightly worse because they are bright red now and the scaling is gone. It just looks like a parched landscape—like a desert with cracked earth—so you basically have to slather on moisturizer just to function. My skin actually cracks a little bit (just around my ear because I have to scrub so hard to get the balm off), and without moisturizer (Nivea), I wouldn't stand a chance. Sometimes the cream feels like a lifesaver—not that it stings, but it fixes that tight, pulled feeling of the skin. They told me it should start itching, which is supposedly a sign it's working, and I actually felt some itching in certain spots after the first use, and it was even a bit more noticeable today.👍 It itches everywhere, but I'm not entirely sure if that's a good sign or not, especially since they said I need to use this for about twenty days. "We'll see," the blind idiots told me...😲 So yeah, that's the situation. I don't know what else to tell you, but feel free to ask anything. If I know the answer, I'll tell you; if not, we can just go ask Michael Ramos3 together. Hey everyone...
Just wanted to drop a quick update and let you all know that I finally grabbed that ointment from HealthCare Inc (it’s hitting my doorstep in Chicago tomorrow) so I’ll be starting the regimen either tomorrow or over the weekend.🤣Anyway, I’m going to try to post some feedback more frequently as I see how things progress. By early next week, I should have some initial impressions to share regarding the cream. On another note, I actually had a chat with his dad, and honestly, the guy just genuinely wants to help every single one of us out. Even if this doesn't work—which, frankly, I doubt since the old man was so convincing 🙏—I’m not even sweating the cash right now. I’m not planning on doing any formal testing (blood work, etc.) and I’m definitely not posting photos of my condition (the most obvious areas are "balding" spots like I mentioned before, and those aren't exactly something I want to put online 😬), but I’ll do my best to describe everything in detail. So, that’s where things stand for now... I really have to give a shout-out to HealthCare Inc’s father for pulling out all the stops to get this done so fast; someone had some crazy scheduling conflicts with me in New York City, and I wasn't about to let this opportunity slip through my fingers.🙂
So, I went ahead and did what I said I’d do—I reached out to those folks over in Belgrade (the Biolixir people) just to pick their brains a little. Honestly, the price difference is pretty massive... they’re charging about $160 for the treatment there (the syrup plus the nasal drops), and then another $160 for the cream. If you do the math, that’s seven days of treatment at $160 each, plus the cream, which brings the total to roughly $1,300. 😳 When you stack that up against what they're asking in Vienna, you're looking at saving $850!!!! 👍 I pressed them on guarantees, and of course, they gave me the standard line: they can't guarantee a total cure because they can't control biology, but they claimed their long-standing reputation is all the proof anyone needs. Naturally, that wasn't good enough for me, so I pushed a bit harder. I asked, "Look, if you won't guarantee a cure, would you at least throw in some follow-up therapy for free if the psoriasis flares back up within a year or two?" The woman I was talking to told me we could "work something out" or that they’d be willing to meet me halfway. She didn't explicitly promise free treatments, but I read between the lines—they’ll probably make it happen, especially since they pour so much into their marketing and probably don't want any bad press hitting them. 👎 Anyway, she suggested it might actually be smarter to do the initial treatment in Belgrade first and then head over to Vienna later for follow-ups (my doctor in Vienna mentioned that after three or four months, you might need one extra day of therapy just as a precaution, though it's not strictly mandatory). Now, I can't tell if she recommended that because their methods are actually superior, or if she’s just trying to squeeze more money out of me. The real kicker isn't just the price; it's that in Belgrade, you can actually haggle with the bosses about these "sort-of guarantees," whereas in Vienna, you get absolutely nothing. Personally, I'm leaning more toward my guy Michael Ramos3, but I wanted to see this through to the end so I could give you guys the full scoop... and let me tell you, the price gap between him and these clinics is incomparable. 👍 And honestly, more power to him.
Robert Clark2 said:.................................................. . Based on my own biological rhythm, I get hit by this stuff every single spring to an unbelievable degree, only for it to just vanish on its own during the summer—leaving maybe some tiny, negligible traces behind—before it kicks back in like clockwork right around the time of the transfiguration at the end of August, hitting me hard and unstoppable until winter starts. It’s all just one big closed loop that I can't seem to break. If I could actually snap out of it, maybe I wouldn't even have psoriasis in the first place.🙏
I gotta admit, Robert Clark2, you’ve got me thinking about this..👍 . See, what you mentioned about those specific windows when the psoriasis flares up perfectly lines up with when my allergies go absolutely haywire....springtime brings the pollen fever, and then once we pass the mid-August holiday, the ragweed hits. I know this firsthand because I'm allergic as hell to ragweed, and both last year and this year, I felt that same stuffiness in my nose during the spring, along with watery eyes (though nothing compared to the nightmare ragweed causes)..👎 👎 .Basically, I developed that ragweed allergy after dealing with the psoriasis.... now, I'm not entirely sure if there's a direct link or if they're just two separate headaches happening at once, but like I mentioned before, I went in for a consultation at that Bioelixir clinic (the one based in Vienna) and during my talk with one of their doctors there, she told me that psoriasis is closely linked to things like allergies, asthma, sinusitis, and all that jazz... I mean, I don't know if it's the absolute truth, but the woman was pretty convincing... because of that connection, they treat all these conditions using the method I already described—nasal drops (honestly, that was the first time I ever heard anyone claim you could treat psoriasis with nasal drops), some kind of tonic or liquid, plus a cream. They claim a 90% success rate... I'm not totally sold on all of it, but it definitely aligns with what you just wrote.... maybe I'm just seeing patterns where they don't exist.🙂 I'm just grasping at straws here....🙂
Generally speaking, I totally agree that places like this are absolute magnets for profit hunters... and their only real interest isn't actually helping anyone, but rather hooking new customers so they can squeeze out even more cash (with zero guarantee of a cure, because let's face it, they aren't curing anything—they're just selling snake oil).
But look, if we go around accusing every single person who mentions a product, an ointment, or some therapy that supposedly helped them of being some lowlife scum coming in to spout lies and steal our money... then this whole damn psoriasis corner of the forum—this "victim zone" (which, by the way, I hate because the title is incredibly pessimistic)—might as well just be shut down altogether.
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So, I’m asking you all, please, before you jump down someone's throat and accuse them of anything in the future, just take a second to think... because slandering someone isn't exactly a small thing to do.
As for the situation Robert Clark2 is bringing up... I don't know. Maybe my friend Robert Clark2 is right, maybe he isn't.
Haven't you guys noticed that, unfortunately, Gabby has completely vanished since that whole similar mess went down? (Maybe she's just offended and pissed off).
Whatever the case, just don't be paranoid; try to be reasonable and stay cautious.
I sign off on this completely... we're all grown adults here and we're perfectly capable of figuring out for ourselves what works and what doesn't. Besides, there are plenty of posts on this forum where you can tell who's who... you can usually spot if someone is being genuine or not just by the way they write. And honestly, even if someone manages to "push" their goods on us and it turns out to be a total waste of money, it won't be the first time, unfortunately...😬 🙂 .. and when it comes to those insanely expensive preparations, we definitely think twice anyway... Like I mentioned before regarding that Bioelixir clinic... if the treatment wasn't going to cost 2000 USD, I probably would have gone for it regardless of whether they offered any guarantees or not... as you can see, that temptation is still there. Their approach isn't even theoretically bad... maybe there's something to it, but like I said, the money is the issue... I've spent so much cash already that it makes me sick just thinking about having to spend more...👎
Alright, I guess I’ll finally jump in and add my two cents to all these recommendations... My top pick has gotta be Dr. Seifert’s practice over on 43 Main Street, where the Associate Professor works alongside a younger female doctor. Both of them are absolute pros, but let's be real—the Associate Professor is basically a legend when it comes to prosthetics in the US, plus he’s an adjunct professor at the local dental school. They’ve handled everything for me and my entire family over the years, and honestly, I don't even need to tell you how happy everyone was with the results. I actually just sent a colleague from work to see the younger doctor recently, and he told me it was easily one of his best moves; he walked away with a ton of specialized advice specifically regarding prosthetic work. A little pro-tip for anyone who absolutely can't stand pain: since the lady doctor is younger, she’s incredibly attentive and maybe just a tiny bit gentler than the old man🙏. Personally, though, I think the Associate Professor is phenomenal in that department too... I mean, the second I walk through those doors, I'm already looking for the anesthetic needle...🙂 One of the best things about their setup is that you can go there just to get a second opinion without being hit with a massive bill, because they don't charge for the initial exam. They just lay out exactly what needs to be done, and then the ball is in your court to decide if you want to stick with them or take your business elsewhere. As for the pricing, yeah, it’s not cheap, but it’s definitely not overpriced either; I’ve been to much more expensive places before. At the very least, once the exam is done, you can ask for a rough estimate and make an informed call. You’ll notice the difference between this office and the others the moment you step inside and talk to them; both the Associate Professor and the doctor are incredibly warm and welcoming. You won't feel awkward at all, and you can ask pretty much any question you want and they'll break it down for you (assuming it’s actually related to dentistry, obviously).... The office number is... 01 / 4617-444
Michael Ramos3 said:I honestly don't think there are any failures at all. WHY? Just a few days ago, I had this woman call me back after ten days, trying to return the ointment because she claimed it wasn't doing anything for her. Her husband basically told her, "Look, lady, it's been ten days, and everything was explained to you clearly when you first picked it up." So now we're just waiting for her to drop it off. It happens all the time—someone uses one dose (like 150 grams), sees the seal is broken and the skin is looking visibly better (the scales are smaller, less itching, less flaking), and then they just stop the treatment. They stay in that improved state for a really long time—sometimes two or three years—without the psoriasis ever returning to its original state. But then, once they decide to start again, they have to go through the whole cycle from scratch; by day twenty, the itching starts back up and the scaling begins all over again. ..................................................
If you want my phone number, just shoot me a P. M., though most of my other info is already public.
Sorry for being so long-winded, but other people on the forum asked for the details.
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It doesn't matter if you're repeating yourself, Michael Ramos3, because you brought up those "cases" 🙂 where some of us members might see ourselves reflected. 👍 What I really want to know is, have any of you dealt with "tricky areas"? For me, that means inside the ears, areas with lots of hair, and obviously the scalp (that's actually where my psoriasis first showed up about 15 years ago, and it's just spread more as I've gotten older). 👎 Unfortunately, over the last few years, it's moved to my genitals too, and it’s becoming a massive headache. Since the skin there is way more sensitive than the rest of my body, I'm wondering what your experiences have been like with that... Maybe it wouldn't hurt to mention a few more cases or different types (maybe something unusual?) just so we can get a better idea of what you're offering. Personally, I don't even see this as an advertisement; it would just give everyone a better look at the experiences you've gathered over 30 years—which I'm sure are plenty. Thanks in advance...
Healed says: I’d really love for IBM to give my ointment a shot; it usually takes anywhere from about three weeks to maybe three months to see the full results.
The core group of regulars here have already grabbed some of the stuff, so I’m just hoping they’ve actually started applying it by now. Honestly, let's just sit tight for a bit—God willing—and hopefully, they'll be the ones doing all the talking instead of me.
WITH FAITH IN GOD BEST,
Healed originally posted this back on April 30th, and since we're already past that twenty-day mark—and he did mention you could start seeing positive movement around then—I’m calling on theFORUM MEMBERS who picked up his ointment. Can you guys give us the lowdown? What are you seeing during this initial phase? He mentioned it can take up to three months to fully kick in, which actually lines up with what I know about skin regeneration... it pretty much takes two months for the skin to completely cycle through and renew itself.👍 ....... Look, I'm not saying this because I'm being impatient; it would just be incredibly helpful to track how things progress over time and if anyone is running into any side effects, especially since the type and severity of psoriasis varies so much from one person to the next.Octopus mentioned wanting to keep a therapy journal, but honestly, I think the members who actually have the ointment in hand should be the ones leading the charge on that.🙂
Joshua Allen54 said:The whole thing lasted about three weeks. I actually tried it myself on my own skin because the psoriasis was absolutely killing me, and honestly, everything just cleared up and hasn't even thought about coming back since.
That’s great and all, but how clear are we talking here? Because let’s be real—we’ve all been through the ringer with different treatments, and this psoriasis stuff has a nasty habit of crawling right back, doesn't it? Have you actually been clear for a solid year or two now, or what?
Joshua Allen54 said:Look, I'm Mario from Annapolis, and honestly, I found my way to this ointment and tea combo through some people, and man, I am seriously stoked about it. Psoriasis... it started hitting me hard about 3 or 4 years ago after I wasted so much time on useless creams and ointments and seeing all sorts of specialists, but nothing actually worked. That was until I heard about this one DOCTOR... He’s based out of Mexico, so you really need to give him a call and talk things through, then find someone who can get everything translated and delivered right to your doorstep. You'll figure out the logistics, but just trust me, he'll explain everything, and it is absolutely worth the effort. I wish you guys the best. The cream itself is totally different—it's all-natural, zero nasty stuff like corticosteroids, and it's super gentle on the skin. As for the tea, it's easy to drink, kind of like chamomile tea, and it helps soothe those inflamed spots; I was honestly floored by how well it worked. In less than two weeks, my legs were completely clear, so I think this is exactly what you're looking for. If I remember right, the price for one ointment and one cream is about $67. If you're going to order, you might be better off grabbing more ointment and less tea, since the cream gets used up faster, whereas I still have more than half my tea left. You apply the cream twice a day, morning and night. Plus, you should bathe in oats during the treatment, which really does wonders. Just ask the guy everything you want to know; he'll walk you through it all and even send over a list of instructions to follow while you're treating it. IT'S WORTH IT, TRUST ME.
Thanks for the info, Mario, but you missed a pretty huge detail... how long has it been since you finished the treatment? Like, how long have you been totally clear of scales, redness, and all that other stuff? And do you happen to know anyone else who's tried this and what their experience was like... maybe someone who recommended it to you in the first place?
Honestly, I just can't bring myself to trust them.... I did some digging and found out they actually sponsor a local soccer club over in Pančevo... they've got links and ads popping up all over the internet and flooding every single TV station in the country.... I don't know man... asking for 2,000 Euros is a massive stretch, and if you're paying that kind of cash, they better be able to clear you up for at least a few years, right?
Keep us posted on what happens.... and let us know what you decide to do with it...
I’m definitely going to give it more thought, and I really need to call that guy in Belgrade and "force" him to actually walk the walk. Look, if you're out here claiming your product has a 90% success rate, then you should absolutely be ready to back that up with some real guarantees—like I said before, either a few years of being symptom-free or free follow-up treatments. If I hadn't been dealing with this crap for so long, I probably would have jumped on that "7 days to a cure" promise immediately. Over here, their marketing campaign has gone totally aggressive too; they're practically on the radio every single Wednesday....!!!! They're even moving into a bigger spot closer to the city center (it looks pretty high-end compared to some of those shady little clinics I've stumbled into), and they've got this one doctor who came over from Italy—she finished her medical degree there and worked there for a long time. She speaks American, though her accent is a bit off (probably just someone from around here who hasn't spoken much in a while 🙂)—but she actually knows a hell of a lot about psoriasis, unlike some of the dermatologists I've run into lately.
So now I have a question for the folks over in the States: there’s this clinic called "Bioelixir" based out of Belgrade (they moved there from Pančevo a few years back), and they supposedly boast a 90% success rate when it comes to treating psoriasis and other stuff like sinusitis or eczema. I’m wondering if anyone here has actually pulled the trigger on this? The reason I'm asking is that they just opened up an office right here in Washington, D.C., so I went in for a consultation ($50) just to see what the deal was. The doctor was perfectly pleasant enough, but honestly, she didn't tell me anything about psoriasis that I hadn't already figured out myself. Their whole treatment logic is basically a three-pronged attack: you drink their special elixir, they put some drops in your nose, and then you slather yourself in cream. You have to go to their office for the elixir and the drops, while you handle the cream application yourself at home. The initial therapy lasts seven days—you're heading in there every single day—and then for about two months, you actually have to show up twice a day for a couple of days to apply the cream, because apparently that's how long it takes for the skin to fully regenerate (or so they claim). Now, the real reason I haven't jumped on this yet is the price tag. Here in the US, it’s going to set you back $4933 which is, like, 2000 bucks. They do offer payment plans through credit cards, but look, I’ve spent so much money on "miracle cures" already that if I’m dropping that kind of cash, I want some sort of guarantee... you know, like being good for 3 to 5 years, or if it flares up again, you get the follow-up therapy for free... 🙂 🙂 That’s why I’m really curious to know if anyone on this forum has ever actually tried it....
Respect to my fellow sufferers out there! So, this is my first time jumping onto this forum, and honestly, I’m here for the exact same reasons you all are. I’ve been battling psoriasis for over 15 years now, and just like many of you, I feel like I’ve tried absolutely everything under the sun, yet unfortunately, it’s still hanging around. 😠 I’ve gone through the whole gauntlet—from creams and lotions to pills and radical diet changes—and in the beginning, they even misdiagnosed me with seborrheic dermatitis instead of actual psoriasis. Nothing seems to stick for more than a couple of weeks before it flares back up. Lately, I’ve been digging into more "alternative" ways to tackle this mess, but so far, nothing has truly hit the mark. Acupuncture helps a little bit, sure, but the relief is fleeting and, let's be real, it's incredibly expensive. My best luck was actually with some pills (high-end German ones that cost a ridiculous $180 a box for 100 tablets), though I eventually found a doctor who could get them for me from the Netherlands for about $60 a box. Even then, it was a massive drain on my wallet because I was taking up to six of them a day. Recently, I was chatting with an Austrian coworker of mine who supposedly cleared his psoriasis using that same method, and he hasn't had a flare-up in a year. The only catch? He went way beyond the "recommended" dosage (that 6-pill daily limit). He did an intense six-month run with them—he used to get them at a pharmacy in Vienna for $60 a box too—and it worked for him. Whether it'll come crawling back or not, nobody knows. Apparently, the secret sauce in those pills is some kind of fumoric acid that our bodies supposedly don't produce enough of, or maybe not at all... I can't even be certain. Like I said, it didn't completely wipe the slate clean for me, but it did make me look a hell of a lot better... the patches weren't that angry, bright red color anymore, just a pale pink, and in some spots, there was nothing at all. I even tried those aggressive liver cleanses, cutting out all the sweets, sodas, booze, pork, and all that other junk, but nothing really moves the needle. To be honest, I’ve almost made peace with living with this thing, but part of me is still out there searching for a real way out...🙂