Posts by mellowskipper

Tyler Ruiz502 said:I honestly don't care what everyone else's specific take on masks is—I'm just trying to get some clarity here. Should high schoolers in an American school be required to wear them during class, or not?

I get the feeling people are just tearing this whole group apart—or whatever you want to call them—simply because they’ve been dragged into the spotlight by the media and now everyone’s jumping on them. And from what I understand about this particular school, masks aren't even mandatory in the classrooms, just in the hallways. This kid and his dad aren't even willing to wear them in the halls. Fine, whatever.

My point in posting this is to find out what you all think about wearing masks when it's required constantly. We're talking 6 or 7 periods of school!

The reason I'm asking is that my daughter has been dealing with constant headaches. She comes home every single day complaining of a headache, saying the mask is making her feel like she can't breathe. And I believe her—I mean, I've worn a mask for maybe two hours and felt like I was going to pass out. She's stuck in one for five.

So, where do I even go from here? How do I start fixing this? Do I go to her pediatrician to see if she can get a medical waiver?

Personally, I'm against masks. My kid gets headaches too; she actually asked if she could sit in the front row by the window since it's always open.
I'm also totally against these aggressive tactics some parents are pulling in Krapina.
Maybe try getting a medical note from a doctor stating the child shouldn't have to wear one.

Larry Walker24 said:EVERYONE who turns 15 loses their right to attend Elementary School

In that group, it's mostly usually Rom

So, in my daughter's 7th grade class, there's this boy—he's already had two grade deferrals—and he's turning 14 now. Which means by 8th grade, he'll be 15. I mean, if he fails a grade at that point, would they just kick him out?

Rachel Barrett8 said:Kids need the freedom to learn and grow without someone breathing down their necks. Older generations shouldn't be dumping their own baggage, fears, and insecurities onto little ones.

If we want the pen to actually be mightier than the sword, people need an education and the ability to think critically—which, let's face it, feels like pure science fiction in this country.

Here’s what I know for sure: the virus isn't the main threat to kids, but forcing them to hide behind plastic masks and pumping them full of massive amounts of chemicals? That's a real risk.

Picking on children is just something bitter old folks and immature losers do.

I'm with you on this. My little girl—she's 7, well, 12 months ago she was 7, now she's basically there--was actually asking to sit in the front row right by the teacher's desk because that window is always open. She told me she just can't get enough air under that mask.
They have six hours of school every day. Sometimes seven, if they're doing extra stuff. That is a long time to be stuck under a mask for adults, let alone for children.

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David Mendoza4 said:I actually reached out to the CDC myself to get some clarity, but I haven't heard a single peep back from them yet.

Same here. Just total silence—not even a peep.

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nimbleranger17 said:A little girl started feeling sick at school, and she was practically begging for someone—anyone—to go out and find her mom because she was terrified of the protesters outside. "It’s an uncomfortable situation, but we are doing our absolute best to handle it," said the principal, Samson Štibohar.

When they arrived at the school, those protesters were actually pulling on kids' sleeves, telling them they shouldn't be wearing masks.

https://www.zagorje.com/clanak/vijes...li.-%20ali

It is just absolutely surreal that this kind of thing is happening in a country like America. I honestly thought people here were civilized enough to realize that staging these kinds of unhinged protests right at schools and on school grounds is crossing a line.
It blows my mind that there isn't more outrage over this back home. This is completely unacceptable. Harassing children under the guise of "divine laws" and claiming masks are "carcinogenic"? I truly cannot wrap my head around how any sane person could support this madness.

Of course, this is completely unacceptable. You just call the police and the paramedics—let them handle the transport based on their own clinical indications.

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Susan Martin4 said:Honestly, I just feel for the kid. Who knows what's actually going through his head with all this chaos?

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Aha, so he doesn't even want the mask himself—he’s actually leading the charge against them. It’s not like the parents are forcing him; he’s the one driving it.

He just thinks and acts exactly how they tell him to back home.

Rachel Barrett8 said:No student needs a doctor's note to skip masks; there isn't even a law like that.

It's more like it exists in the minds of religious fanatics. It’s as if you need a rosary just to enter a school building or a signed permission slip from Bozanić—it all ends up being the same thing.😁

Taking shots at the most vulnerable people? It's pathetic and honestly just sad.

Everything is fine, I suppose—but one really needs to choose a mode of engagement. Sometimes, diplomacy is simply more effective than the sword.

David Palmer5 said:It’s pretty obvious they have way too much free time on their hands. 😁

Pure performance.

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Susan Martin4 said:I didn't read the whole thing closely. What grade is the kid in?

I think maybe 7th or 8th. Not sure, really. Just... an awkward age, I guess.

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Edward Perez64 said:Honestly, I'm just wondering how any of this even relates to the topic. Why are we diluting the discussion like this?

The whole point here is what's going on—yesterday's mess in Cleveland is part of this thread, along with everything else surrounding it.

I am actually reading through this. You have parents standing in front of the school teaching their kids... I mean, that itself is traumatic. They really should have handled that more intelligently—like getting a doctor's note stating the child doesn't need to wear a mask. This whole "battle" fought on the backs of children is just... I don't even know. It's absurd.

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Nicholas King said:Did they at least drop twenty bucks for coffee and some pastries for the "wonderful" doctor (lol)?

* A good doctor is one who actually gives me a sick note and prescribes antibiotics. A bad doctor is someone who refuses to give you antibiotics and always makes things difficult whenever I want to take medical leave.

What kind of amateurish nonsense and coffee is this? Honestly, you just can't carry yourself that way anymore—it’s pretty obvious you've become a total drain.
Homegrown. Eggs, bacon, fresh vegetables, maybe some cherry brandy...

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Michelle Nelson4 said:That’s just how it goes. I honestly hope you’re prepared to shell out 👍 next time you have to pay out of pocket for private healthcare—services you’re technically entitled to through your mandatory coverage, but can't actually access because the wait times are endless or your doctor simply refuses to give you a referral. 😉

Look, I work in healthcare myself, though I’ve certainly paid my fair share for private care over the years... Let's call it a balance, or an alignment... whatever you want to call it.

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I made sure to officially file for my leave when my little one was in the ICU—you know, on parental leave.

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Susan James said:Well... what exactly haven't you recovered from yet?
Even if your immunity has technically worn off, there's still a chance it holds up. It seems silly to force people into isolation, and it also seems silly to insist on vaccination.

In places like Seattle, where they don't get much sun, immunity usually lasts about 12 months.
If schools were hit hard last fall, those kids should still have some lingering protection today.
Plus, it's not like you won't catch something if you have minimal exposure, but at least you have some resistance. 🤔
This whole idea of forced isolation, especially for kids, really needs to end.
If you're sick, stay home. If you're fine, get out there.

Anyone who was worried could have protected themselves with the vaccine. Look at Florida—it's a huge hotspot, but it's still packed with tourists. The only ones I see stuck in isolation are students.
(And even those poor students sitting in cafes right outside their school! Someone really needs to tell them to move a block or two down the street.)

Personally, I have been. But I know plenty of others who either haven't caught it or maybe did asymptomatically and don't even realize it; they don't want the shots, so they can't comply with the restrictions.
I just hope they leave the kids alone.

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Susan James said:Think about it—you’d have a teacher or a homeroom instructor who’d essentially have to take the heat for naming "Student A" and "Student B" just because they sat closest to someone testing positive. Without having to dig through every single lesson plan or grading sheet, how many teachers do you honestly think would step up and pick two specific kids? Instead, they’ll likely just invite a parent into the mix—one parent who refuses to let their child go into remote learning, versus five others who are desperate for it because their kid didn't make the cut for some selective program.

On the flip side, we spent the entire last school year hearing about constant infections, yet high schools saw a massive wave of positive cases.
There must be a significant number of people who have been vaccinated; otherwise, the local health officials would have been panicking on these forums all year long. Remember, the vaccinated group includes those with probable infections who haven't even taken a test yet, plus those using rapid tests. I’ve heard about plenty of vaccinated high schoolers, not just the 16+ crowd.

So, picture this: out of 25 students, 15 are vaccinated and 5 are not. Most don't even need to switch to remote learning. Are we really going to hold online classes just because of those 5? They might not have even been near the infected student, and they're probably wearing masks anyway.
In my opinion, that's only an issue if a teacher personally prefers teaching online and is pushing for it.

If the majority of the class is moving to remote learning, then sure, everyone goes online.
Though, if you ask me, kids could actually use the exposure right now. It’s still sunny and warm outside, so they can spend plenty of time outdoors. Plus, they’ve built up their Vitamin D levels over the summer, and vaccines are still doing their job for the elderly. It feels a bit silly to force them into isolation and keep them cooped up at home—who are we actually protecting? Is it just the ones who are hesitant about the vaccine?
Maybe just give them two days of isolation, run a quick test, and send them back to school.

It seems like we are constantly trying to protect the people who won't get vaccinated. But it's pretty clear that those of us who haven't been vaccinated don't want to be "protected" in that way—we just want a normal life and to take personal responsibility for our own health.

coastalorca43 said:Parents aren't even being notified. My child is currently in isolation, yet I haven't received a single notification regarding the quarantine order or any official decision from the CDC.

They’re cramming entire classrooms into Special Instruction, regardless of whether the kids are vaccinated or have already recovered. It feels like a total setup—epidemiologists are demanding Covid certificates, which makes me wonder if they're just playing games by sending some kids to SI without proof while everyone else stays in regular school. Or maybe they're just compiling lists to push vaccinations on more children. Out of a class of 28, only about 14% are vaccinated; I bet there are plenty of furious parents out there vaccinating their kids just because they end up in Special Instruction either way.
They definitely gave it a fresh coat of paint.

Nobody even bothers with masks anymore once you step away from the crowded spots. They're either gone or just sitting on someone's chin.
There's really no need to single out the kids.

My kid is still in elementary school, so currently, only the kids who actually recovered from Covid have those passes, not the vaccinated ones. Maybe some are vaccinated, but honestly, I really don't know.

Rebecca Clark6 said:I honestly don't see how they expected to track individual contact if all the kids are grouped together during breaks anyway, so at that point, it doesn't really matter who sits where. Plus, since the entire class will likely end up in isolation together, there's no real reason for the older students to be wearing masks, let alone worrying about wearing them perfectly like this.

Of course that stopped making sense a long time ago...

Douglas Stewart53 said:High schoolers are basically ignoring the rules. They either aren't wearing masks at all, or they wear them completely wrong—nose and mouth sticking out. If that's the case, what's the point? They'll pull a mask up just to get past the entrance, and then the circus begins. I don't know if those parents who claim they "saw everyone wearing masks in front of the school" realize what an average American high school classroom actually looks like. Masks come off at the first opportunity. In gym class, everyone is hanging out in the locker rooms without masks—an even tighter space than the classroom. They eat, they sing, they share drinks, they take selfies... when a teacher walks in, they shove a mask halfway onto their faces. As soon as the bell rings, the masks come right back down because not wearing one is "cool." That's how it works in high school. You don't see that in elementary school, where the kids might actually try to fit in by following the rules. In high school, being rebellious is the goal. I assume the epidemiologists realize this. It goes without saying for anything happening outside school grounds. There's zero logic in isolating students sitting left or right 😵 when they're constantly moving around anyway. Of course they're going to trigger isolations. Not only are they mixing within their own classes like they always have, but now different groups and electives are mixing too. What someone sees in front of the school building has absolutely nothing to do with what happens inside once the pack gets together.

The "cool factor" doesn't really apply to masks anymore. My daughter, who can barely stand it, called me during a short break last week because she was struggling to breathe under her mask and had a headache. Naturally, I told her if she absolutely has to wear it, she should at least pull it up over her nose. Anyway, she's in 7th grade.

hiddendriver34 said:I’m pretty sure that entire class finished their schoolwork for the whole week by Tuesday, because I saw the whole group hanging out together at the coffee shop right next to the high school.

I mean, was that actually an official ruling from the CDC?

Susan James said:See, if you're vaccinated, you can just jump into a different section's lecture.🙏

Wait, how are they not wearing masks? How big is your classroom?

If the whole group is going to go remote, then honestly, let them skip the masks. Whatever, might as well get through this stuff as quickly as possible.

This is about the specific grade level at our school, which is why they aren't wearing masks. It isn't my specific class, anyway.

rowdypanther12 said:Entire classrooms are being put into isolation despite the kids wearing their masks perfectly properly.
There’s zero explanation coming from either the school district or the local news.
They're just passing the buck while nobody bothers to answer any parents' questions.

Yeah. We already had an entire class put into quarantine here too. It happened because of one student testing positive. But the logic seems to be centered on people not wearing masks. Those few who have their vaccination cards are still attending classes with other grade levels.

I guess one of my kids has already ended up in special education.