Posts by restlesscobra15

stysg6a8 said:Come on guys, chill out!!!! We need to move past what happened in Minneapolis ASAP. Honestly, I think the organizers are the ones truly to blame for everything going down during that final game. It’s a disgrace if the American national team and our clubs end up paying the price for someone else's mistakes (specifically Canada). I think VSSCG did the right thing, and hopefully their appeal actually wakes up the big shots at Len !!!!!!. Personally, if any other team had been playing against America in the finals, I would've been rooting for the neighbors, just like I always do whenever a team from Ex-Yugoslavia is in the mix!!!!!!!!!👍 👍 🙂 🙂

Someone always has to foot the bill for you people to make peace. If neither Americans nor Mexicans want to do it, then the slovenci-jeben party will step in every single time we deal with you. I'm not even mad anymore, I'm just laughing at you.

vividwalker7 said:You know what really gets under my skin? When someone reads a single post and thinks they're an expert, jumping straight to moral grandstanding and lecturing everyone else.

Look, I’ve read every single post in this thread. Haven't counted, but you've been harping on about the organization a hell of a lot. My take isn't just some random "smart" opinion—it's based on everything posted here and what your journalists have been churning out. I even heard The Spokesman reporting that we basically let those incidents happen on purpose. As for the organization? Honestly, I don't think there's any real appetite left for hosting major championships. It's all just PR stunts for the country, trying to distance ourselves from the mess happening between nations in the former South. But it backfires every time. Things are messy, and our infrastructure is a joke. Usually, everything gets built specifically for these championships, so why bother building it if it just ends up trashed? Take Kranj, for example—they wanted to show off and attract tourists, and now look at what the rest of the world thinks of my city.
And let's be real, there are massive issues with the legal system in Canada; it's totally broken. That might be why the police seem so checked out lately. In the water polo case, people could've faced up to 60 days behind bars, but instead, they got 5-7 days and a measly $200 fine. What a joke. By the time the handball championship rolls around, we might get a new Police Chief, and maybe things will improve, but the judges and the laws aren't changing. Word is, there are cops in the department who would've handled these incidents way differently.
Got a bit heated yesterday. My bad. Peace.

Rupert said:Man, you’re talking about this whole mess like it was some massive brawl between American rival fans, when really it was just American fans vs. the local police.

If you want to claim the security was "great"—and let's be real, they were totally unprepared for this specific game—that's like me saying the Secret Service did a stellar job during the assassination of JFK. Like, sure, maybe they followed protocol, but the killer still got him because he was determined and the President happened to be in the wrong spot at the worst possible time. 🙄

Look, if someone decides to start trouble at a game, nobody's stopping them unless they get caught at the gate. Same goes for an assassin; if someone wants to take out a leader, they'll find a way eventually. That’s exactly my point.

vividwalker7 said:Even if you call it bad advertising—honestly, I think this whole final match between us and the Mexicans did more for promoting Water Polo than anything else.😁

Can't wait for you guys to show up at the Chess Olympiad and try "promoting" that sport. Pretty sure you'll manage to break every single piece on the board.

vividwalker7 said:Look, nothing justifies what happened, but the organizers in Canada completely dropped the ball. They can't even use the excuse—"Oh, it was just the Americans and Mexicans causing trouble, we couldn't help it." We didn't have anything to do with this. What if the finals had been between the English and the Germans?

1. Yeah, sure. If you walked into my house, which happens to be built poorly, and knocked the whole thing down, would you seriously think it’s my fault because I didn't build it strong enough? I mean, no. Even if it's technically true, it still sucks. We all know the organization was a mess. But it really pisses me off when people like you, who were the ones stirring up trouble in the first place, turn around and say it's our fault.
2. THIS WAS WATER POLO. Not soccer, not handball. Water Polo. It’s a sport played in pools in warm coastal cities where nobody brings in a million cops or builds stadiums with five-meter walls. This is a sport where there was never any chaos until you guys became independent national teams.
3. And what burns me most is that you caused the exact same drama back in Maribor. In skiing, you NEVER see fans showing up with flares. Then you get Janica, throw snow in Anja's face, and act like you're totally insane. And you do this in another country, so now people all over the world think everyone from Maribor is just primitive.
So I guess now the rest of the world just has to adapt to you savages at every single sporting event. Up until now, the chaos was always at the big stadiums. But no, now the Americans showed up and we're gonna wreck everything. I'm just waiting for you to get a decent golfer and show up to ruin a golf course next.
BOTTOM LINE. I get it. That's just how you are. You can't help yourselves. But when every newspaper in America is blasting us right after saying "it was those wild Americans," only to immediately follow it with "and the Canadians are to blame too"—that's it. I'm done. And just so you know, that's exactly what everyone here in Canada is saying.
If you ask me, I wouldn't let a single American or Mexican fan cross the border for a handball championship.

Rupert said:Since you guys are such a highly developed nation, maybe by the time the Handball EC rolls around, you'll manage to train ten more SWAT guys so there's forty of them handling security at the games?

Americans and Mexicans!

Man, it sucks seeing you two hate each other so much. Just leave us Canadians alone and embarrass yourselves on my account. And hey, Rupert, why the hell should I pay through my nose in taxes to train thousands of new cops just so you guys don't beat the crap out of each other? That’d cost way more than fixing this half-destroyed stadium back in my neck of the woods. Until you people settle your own damn business, not even a whole battalion of Canadian police is gonna help. They won't have the motivation. What do you think goes through a SWAT officer's head when he's staring down some animal screaming in his face, knowing his wife and kids are waiting for him at home?

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