Fred Matić and Cuka as moderators
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Noah Grant59 said:Now I’m stuck without any way to prove it, so I guess it’s up to you all whether you believe me or not.
Still, those political commentators—especially the ones talking about... To Predrag Matić Fred They know exactly what’s going on—especially a few folks on the Forum who have been driving this conversation for the last couple of days.
So, Cuka just went ahead and nuked two entire pages of discussion without even handing out a single warning or penalty for breaking any Rule Forum guidelines. Is that how we're doing things now?
I know this Forum has had its fair share of biased moderators for a long time now. Even Cuka doesn't really count as one of those well-known, left-leaning types, but still...
So, have we finally hit rock bottom with freedom of speech?
Basically, those two pages completely dismantled ironsurfer52 on Minister Matić's page. He was exposed as nothing more than an irrelevant, malicious troll.
And right on cue, Cuka steps in to moderate.
I’m just sitting here, flailing my arms and pulling my hair out. 🙂
Noah Grant59 said:I’m not interested in debating the moderator himself. I’m questioning the process—specifically how everything good and bad can just be wiped out in one go without anyone receiving a single warning first.
They’re trying to justify it to me in a DM with an excuse I can't even wrap my head around.
I don't post often, but I had to say something. I’ve spent way too much time watching ironsurfer52 lowballing actual heroes from the Battle of Trpinjska Street—specifically Vinko Mažar—and dragging me and others through the mud after I opened up about some personal stuff. He loves pushing this narrative that anyone criticizing Fred is just some war profiteer, all while throwing around insults at everyone else on the board. It all went unchecked until yesterday, when a few of us finally decided enough was enough.
Once it became obvious we were dealing with a liar and someone who clearly gets paid to post, they shut down the thread and wiped out all the key posts.
Look, Miky, you haven't even been active in this thread for ages. Based on everything I've seen, do you even have a clue what we're actually talking about here?
Noah Grant59 said:Cuka, I already told you in my DM that I'm not exactly thrilled with your response.
I already mentioned that I had to come clean about some personal details. People kept insisting that Fred and his crew were just looking for an excuse to call us opportunists and fake veterans. Why bother?
Those questions have been hanging over the Fred thread since the very beginning. Since the allegations were made public—and because Vinko Mažar actually filed criminal charges against Predrag Matić based on those claims, which is all common knowledge now—most people following this topic believe the accusations in that letter are accurate. You’ve been following the thread, so you know that. I’m not sure if I’m even allowed to post the specific incriminating part right here.
But let’s not get sidetracked; we’re supposed to be discussing moderation here. ironsurfer52 deserves a ban—and not just a simple one—for his dishonest and insulting remarks toward Vinko Mažar, who became a public figure through circumstance despite having no desire to be one. He earned it long ago.
To be as convincing as possible, I had to disclose some personal details about myself and where I work, even though it goes against my own principles, simply because I don't find that kind of thing polite.
What I wrote, along with what other members posted, should have stayed up. I’m against insults; I know the Rule Forum, and I’m well aware of the law. Insulting Colonel Mažar is just as bad as insulting a politician, both of which are actionable offenses. Especially since Mažar isn't in a position to defend himself, and knowing his current health and mental state, I haven't reached out to him—though I don't know if anyone else has.
Similarly, ironsurfer52 is naming specific veterans from the Battle of the Street, claiming they are supporting Matić. I am in contact with some of them, and I can tell you that is a lie. One of them has actually been in the hospital fighting for his life for days. Their support was given several days ago, not recently. In fact, nobody actually knows when it happened because this user provides no sources or confirmation. I won't repeat those names here. These are living people with reputations in veteran circles—reputations that Fred would hold regardless of anything he did or didn't do during the war.
The discussion on this thread usually focuses more on his later "career."
I just noticed this pathetic little sob story full of lies, but honestly, it’s no surprise coming from such a gossip and a liar.
In the meantime, I’d like to ask the admin to restore the mentioned pages. I’d love to read exactly where and how these gossips like you supposedly "dismantled" me and where I allegedly insulted the veterans from the street.
Regarding Vinko Mažar, I simply stated that he made a fool of himself. That is a fact that has nothing to do with his service during the war; it refers strictly to his behavior over the last year.
To clarify: Vinko Mažar used false information in an indictment filed by another veteran against Minister Matić. This was accompanied by a statement where he lied about having the signatures of numerous veterans, who subsequently went public to distance themselves from him and support Minister Matić.
Once Mažar was exposed, he turned his attacks on those legendary veterans, including General Zadra’s brother, Pero Janjić, and Mirko Brekala, the president of the local veterans' association.
The most disgusting thing is for a user to mention the medical condition of someone currently lying in a hospital bed, especially when it’s well known that the support being cited is a year old, not a few days old.
Everything I’ve said is documented via links in my posts, which are still available on the thread and are easy to verify.
It’s obvious that this user is just trying to score cheap political points for his handlers ahead of the local elections, and he doesn't hesitate to use the lies and insults that seem to be his standard vocabulary.