British GP (Silverstone) | July 1–3, 2022
in Formula 1 ·
Karma.
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cosmicmoose2 said:What are you even talking about, man? Both Max and Charles blew it in those final laps, but Sainz definitely didn't.
swiftmaker12 said:Things are already heating up in Italy...
Ferrari completely botched the strategy—but as usual, they sent out their little lapdogs to convince everyone that the team is filled with nothing but tactical geniuses and gods, just so they can pin everything on the drivers.
Right after the race, an Autosprint reporter blamed Carlos Sainz for the disaster, and the rest of the media just swallowed it whole. Sainz shot back yesterday, making it clear he isn't at fault and pointing out his contract doesn't include a clause stating he’s just the second driver.
Charles Leclerc had two certain wins snatched away in the last two races, yet the media—those absolute sycophants—are writing that he needs to watch his mouth because Ferrari is bigger than any single driver, even throwing Alain Prost's legacy in his face...
Ferrari is trying to sweep this under the rug to avoid admitting they need to overhaul their decision-making process—they're clearly terrified of taking any actual risks.
Add in the constant mocking from the Red Bull crew, and you've got pure panic inside Ferrari.
And that's despite the fact they finally managed to build a fast car after several years...
Clearly, after Australia, they thought the championship was a done deal—assuming other teams would just roll over once they saw Ferkan in their rearview mirror.
Word is everyone in Monaco blocked them, and nobody even bothered to pay the penalty.
Look, I'm a bit older—I remember what the FIA actually stood for back between 2000 and 2004.
Karma is a bitch.
swiftmaker12 said:Things are already heating up in Italy...
Ferrari completely botched the strategy—but as usual, they sent out their little lapdogs to convince everyone that the team is filled with nothing but tactical geniuses and gods, just so they can pin everything on the drivers.
Right after the race, an Autosprint reporter blamed Carlos Sainz for the disaster, and the rest of the media just swallowed it whole. Sainz shot back yesterday, making it clear he isn't at fault and pointing out his contract doesn't include a clause stating he’s just the second driver.
Charles Leclerc had two certain wins snatched away in the last two races, yet the media—those absolute sycophants—are writing that he needs to watch his mouth because Ferrari is bigger than any single driver, even throwing Alain Prost's legacy in his face...
Ferrari is trying to sweep this under the rug to avoid admitting they need to overhaul their decision-making process—they're clearly terrified of taking any actual risks.
Add in the constant mocking from the Red Bull crew, and you've got pure panic inside Ferrari.
And that's despite the fact they finally managed to build a fast car after several years...
Clearly, after Australia, they thought the championship was a done deal—assuming other teams would just roll over once they saw Ferkan in their rearview mirror.
Word is everyone in Monaco blocked them, and nobody even bothered to pay the penalty.
Look, I'm a bit older—I remember what the FIA actually stood for back between 2000 and 2004.
Karma is a bitch.
stormybadger8 said:Oh, you had "proof," sure. Plenty of lovely little proofs, didn't you? 🙂
The only "proof" you guys actually had was that Williams is slower than Red Bull. 🙂
Because Leclerc’s times while stuck behind a Williams that's holding him up are just as representative as Hamilton's times while trailing Alonso...
It’s not about priority; it’s about using Perez as a guinea pig for Max...
Once they see how the tires are behaving for Perez, then they decide whether to put them on Max or not. They messed up by accidentally giving Perez the advantage...
But if Max had asked for the pits himself without any hesitation, he would've gotten it. ☕
So you think that's a fairy tale, huh?
When the team tells Perez on live TV to let Max past, and we're supposed to believe that's just a fairy tale? Give me a break. 🙏
darkmarlin16 said:So, Jos Verstappen isn't exactly hiding his feelings here—he basically said he was pretty bummed out seeing Red Bull play those strategic games to give Sergio Perez the edge over Max in Monaco
🤣
Jos makes some pretty heavy points, particularly regarding how Max's season is going. His main take? The car just isn't clicking with the way Max drives.
“Speaking as a dad, the race was a letdown. Seeing Max finish third was tough. It was obvious he had a brutal weekend. It all goes back to the car—it just hasn't developed the right traits for his specific style yet. Max is struggling way too much with front-end grip. And when you're in Monaco dealing with those tight, snappy corners, you desperately need a car that turns on a dime. This wasn't it.”
He also feels like the team should've backed Max more (even if he admits he's biased here).
“Red Bull pulled off a decent result, sure, but they didn't do nearly enough to push Max toward the front. Honestly, he only grabbed third because Ferrari messed up during Charles Leclerc's second pit stop. The championship leader, Max, didn't get the support he needed from the pit wall. The strategy ended up leaning heavily toward Checo instead. As a father, that was hard to watch; I wanted a better outcome for the championship leader.
“In reality, Pérez took the win thanks to that early pit stop. The team might try to call it a calculated risk, but they already knew from watching someone like Gasly that switching to intermediates was the move at that moment.
“I really wish they had prioritized Max, though I know I'm being biased. In my eyes, Max lost ten points here. With those two recent DNFs, we absolutely cannot afford to drop points. Let's not forget that Ferrari actually has the faster car right now, especially when it comes to qualifying.”
cosmicmoose2 said:So, I just read today that Red Bull extended Perez's contract through 2024. Combine that with the fact that he's only 15 points behind Max, and you could potentially see a massive internal battle brewing. If that happens, it’ll be wild to see if Perez actually follows team orders blindly or goes rogue...
I honestly get the feeling this is the year for Red Bull, but also for Ferrari to snag both the constructors' and drivers' titles. Mercedes took a hit with that little stumble, but there's zero chance they stay weak next season.
What am I getting at here? Basically, this might be the best shot Perez—and maybe (sadly) Leclerc and Sainz too—has ever had at becoming world champion. In a setup like this, the team shouldn't just push Perez aside to help Max unless the gap becomes huge.
And being only 15 points down after just 9 races? That is definitely not a situation where you just sit back and follow orders...
cosmicmoose2 said:So, I just read today that Red Bull extended Perez's contract through 2024. Combine that with the fact that he's only 15 points behind Max, and you could potentially see a massive internal battle brewing. If that happens, it’ll be wild to see if Perez actually follows team orders blindly or goes rogue...
I honestly get the feeling this is the year for Red Bull, but also for Ferrari to snag both the constructors' and drivers' titles. Mercedes took a hit with that little stumble, but there's zero chance they stay weak next season.
What am I getting at here? Basically, this might be the best shot Perez—and maybe (sadly) Leclerc and Sainz too—has ever had at becoming world champion. In a setup like this, the team shouldn't just push Perez aside to help Max unless the gap becomes huge.
And being only 15 points down after just 9 races? That is definitely not a situation where you just sit back and follow orders...
hiddensailor7 said:I watched it, and honestly, what do you expect him to do in that situation? Should he have attacked a driver in Monaco who clearly wasn't going to let him through, even though they are technically supposed to? Even if he had tried, he probably wouldn't have cleared him immediately, and being that stubborn and selfish ended up costing Leclerc about 2 to 3 seconds—which was just enough to lose the gap he needed to get ahead of Max Verstappen after the two stops.
Max Verstappen came out behind decent Mick Schumacher, who, as soon as the radio informed him about the blue flags for Max Verstappen behind him, practically came to a halt at the penultimate corner, moved all the way to the left, and let Max Verstappen through.
That is exactly what Alex Albon should have done, instead of worrying about his own race and what might happen if he got stuck behind Leclerc on intermediates while on fast slicks and ruined his entire weekend.
And regarding his pace, the team gave him the gaps and times over the radio and told him, "you're doing a good job." That suggests they were actually satisfied with his pace—the same crew that warned him things would be tight with Sergio Perez on the exit from the pits, even though Perez was already 5 seconds ahead. 🤣
I agree with this; in perfect conditions, the grid probably would have looked like:
1. Leclerc, 2. Max Verstappen, 3. Checo Perez, 4. Carlos Sainz.
But in Monaco, things often go sideways, so it's vital to set a fast lap in Q3 as early as possible. If it weren't for Perez crashing, then Fernando Alonso crashed. Without Alonso, we have no way of knowing if someone else might have triggered a yellow or red flag in the meantime.
Everyone knows this and talks about it before qualifying; you need to get those fast laps in early rather than waiting until the end when the track is at its fastest—Checo Perez and Leclerc were doing that throughout qualifying, but Max Verstappen wasn't.
Lawrence Garcia5 said:Eight years later and they've finally thrown in the towel😵
If Mercedes-Benz actually had a car worth fighting with, Lewis Hamilton would be the one leading the charge.
That’s not even a debate at this point...
Michael Rodriguez46 said:Is it possible that the greatest of all time actually finished ahead of his own teammate this time around, or was he trailing behind him once again?
Jacob Castillo70 said:Ferrari needs to get their act together immediately. Making inexplicable blunders like this is going to cost them dearly. Their pit crew has completely botched the strategy more times than I can count—it’s becoming their trademarked way of failing.
gentlecobra23 said:Funny how Hamilton always seems to have "oversteer" every single time there's a collision... but sure, whatever.
gentlecobra23 said:Way to go, Pérez.
But honestly, Ferrari’s strategy deserves nothing less than an immediate firing. Leclerc didn't mess up or lose his lead because of anything he did... it was just that absolutely disastrous pit call.
And I have to ask, what’s the deal with Verstappen ignoring the racing line? Are the stewards just blind or what?...
Jacob Castillo70 said:How Max is lurking in the background
Lawrence Garcia5 said:Well, obviously that's why he’s sitting on four points. He’s been babysitting his engine through seven races, and let's be real—four or five of those were total disasters anyway. 🤣🤣
Lawrence Garcia5 said:What’s the deal with this countdown?
Laura Williams41 said:I daresay Red Bull will find themselves outmaneuvered by superior tactical decisions this season, if they don't fall victim to something even more fundamental.
mistynomad37 said:Wow, thanks so much! You just saved me a massive headache... one more thing though—what's your take on the MacBook? Could it actually handle everything my ThinkPad does?