Daniel Carter9 said:So, what was the goal here? To try and buy a ticket or just show up at the stadium on a whim and then act surprised when nobody’s there? Since I backed the whole blacklisting concept from the start, I don't get why everyone is tripping.
Who actually screwed who over here?
The point was either to catch illegal behavior in the act while trying to grab tickets—using that evidence to fuel lawsuits—or, even better (which is what actually happened), forcing the removal of everyone on those blacklists for the sake of the team in St. Louis. More specifically, getting everyone off the lists who hasn't actually been sanctioned by ZON or isn't currently under investigation. Everything went down perfectly, exactly how you'd want it to. Yesterday, those bastards were cornered in three moves, and it's a damn shame we didn't capitalize on it even harder.
Kudos to the kids who actually caught onto the point of today’s protest: either we tear down these blacklists, or we start filing lawsuits against these bottom-feeders. Seriously, respect to everyone who had the guts to risk everything just to show up. They showed up right in the crosshairs of the people paying the salaries—both the club brass and the cops. They showed up while the guys who were supposed to be their idols decided to sit back and play it safe in the shade. Massive props to the youngsters who chose to think for themselves instead of following orders or bowing to threats. Respect to those who saw the bigger picture without having a selfish bone in their body. It’s a far cry from the crowd that only cares about "the cause" when there’s a fancy away game or some massive international tournament on the line. As for those fair-weather types? They can stay far away from this club and me for as long as they live. Amen.
Listen up, everyone. It’s finally time to stop talking and actually start doing something about this. We are officially kicking off the movement to clear those blacklists today, and it is absolutely vital that everyone gets involved. Don't just sit there waiting for someone else to clean up your mess. Starting tomorrow, if you think you’ve been unfairly blacklisted—meaning you haven't actually broken any laws or faced any official sanctions under the stadium security acts—you need to act immediately. Try to buy a ticket. Record the attempt, save the response from the ticket vendor, and make sure you have a witness with you who isn't under investigation themselves. From 3:00 PM onwards, you need to get down to the fan club office downtown and bring your info, your phone number, and all the details regarding your witness. REMEMBER, THIS IS CRITICAL. There is zero room for laziness here. Spread the word to absolutely everyone.
Listen, nobody has the right to stop you from filming in public spaces. If anyone tries to tell you otherwise, just keep recording them.. They might try to pick people off one by one for now, but once things really start getting crowded, they won't be able to keep up. Stay sharp, everyone—keep me posted on how this is unfolding.
William Williams21 said:And here’s the kicker: I record my face and then show my ID to the lady at the window to order tickets for the North Side. She just types my name straight into the computer and asks, "How many tickets?" So I hit her with: "Does that mean I'm finally off the blacklist?" And she just looks at me like, "I have no idea what you're talking about." 🤦
It honestly looks like she wasn't even checking any master list or anything; she was just punching his name into the system immediately because she didn't even have a printed sheet in front of her!
wearyraven25 said:I’m not sure how smart it is to be posting this stuff out in the open. Those corporate suckups are awake 24/7, and they're already running straight to the big boss while Vrbá and Anthony are probably busy cooking up some response. Don't give them an inch. Don't let them get even one step ahead of us. Honestly, I think you could have just kept this chatter within the inner circle.
I disagree completely. They absolutely need to know what's coming. We're looking at lawsuits based on multiple different laws regarding fan clubs. And we aren't just talking about the fans—we're going after the people in charge at the police department, the league, basically everyone tied to the football industry. Anyone who's knowingly breaking the law by refusing to enforce it, or choosing to enforce it selectively and discriminatorily, needs to be held accountable.
Listen up, everyone. It’s high time we stop talking big and actually start doing something about this. Tomorrow, we kick off the push to clear those blacklists, and it is absolutely critical that every single one of you steps up. Don't just sit there waiting for someone else to clean up your mess. Tomorrow, if you think you’re on a blacklist but you haven't actually been sanctioned or aren't facing any legal trouble under the fan safety laws, you need to act. Go online, try to buy a ticket, screen record the entire attempt—including the seller's response—and make sure you have a witness with you who isn't currently banned or under investigation. From 3 PM onwards, you need to get down to the Fan club headquarters over on Main Street. Bring your details, your phone number, and all the info regarding your witness. REMEMBER, THIS IS HUGE. We cannot afford anyone being lazy about this. Spread the word to everyone you know.
People need to wake up and realize that everything we’re doing right now—every single opportunity we have to actually make an impact—has an expiration date. And that date hits the moment the current election cycle wraps up. We’ve got maybe twenty days left where we actually function as voters, and once that window closes, we’re all just going back to being nothing more than angry hooligans. There are dozens of people here who have perfectly clean track records, yet it isn't enough that three of them had the guts to demand specific, named explanations for these bans. It has to be bigger than that. If we don't scale this up, the momentum will just fizzle out, and in the end, the wolves are going to eat the sheep alive.
Casey Hernandez7 said:Are you seriously suggesting they can just keep making blacklists whenever they feel like it if we strike that specific clause? Because if that's the case, there’s zero point in fighting to change that one section if they can just trigger the same blacklist bullshit through some other loophole in the national security laws. I think you're missing the mark here.
Edit: Total brain death. Small-town amateur clubs 🙂
There are plenty of other articles out there written with the same vague, sweeping language designed specifically so they can screw us over. It might not be the exact same method, but the result is the same. I'm telling you, Section 32/7 is just one single example of an article that needs to be scrapped entirely or at least tightened up until it actually means something. Let me repeat: it looks like nobody here has bothered to read these things word-for-word unless someone underlined them in red ink first.
vividotter40 said:It’s not just the Chiefs' stance. That’s only one part of the equation.
Fine, whatever you say, man. But I’d love to see someone actually point out where this is being said or who is even bringing this up besides that one single article. It’s just one specific clause, and lately, everyone is talking about rephrasing it, not getting rid of it entirely. It’s pretty obvious nobody in this damn country—not the negotiators, not the people they're sitting down with, not even the fans—has bothered to actually read the entire law from start to finish. The dogs are barking, but the caravan keeps moving right on by...
Richard Rogers38 said:The folks running the Kansas City Chiefs just sat down with the Department of Education, and word is they’re looking to scrap that specific clause in the fan laws. You know, the one that lets them arbitrarily ban anyone from the stands just because they aren't technically on some official blacklist.
Does this mean that with this legal tweak, the club won't be able to play the "organizer" card anymore to defend buying tickets for 1,200 Real Madrid fans who are stuck on those blacklists?
Honestly, focusing on that single clause is a massive mistake. There are at least ten other similar ones floating around. Either they’re unconstitutional and exist solely to bully and harass fans, or they deal with sanctions and obligations for organizers that nobody even follows anyway. By the book, they shouldn't have been allowed to host a single game since 2004. Back in 2003, they were given an entire year to get their stadiums up to code, and absolutely nobody did a damn thing about it... etc., etc.
Paul Miller9 said:Look, sorry for going off-topic here—and I know, I know, you guys probably have much more important things to worry about than my jersey—but I’m just losing my mind right now. Honestly, I can't help it.
I’m on the hunt for an authentic Real Madrid jersey from the era when they were rocking the Adidas kits with that Cronet logo splashed across the chest. I don't really care about the specific colorway—could be home, away, or even a keeper kit. Long sleeves or short sleeves, doesn't matter to me. The only thing that's non-negotiable is that it has to be a genuine match-worn piece. If you've got one sitting around, let me know.
Shoot me a DM with your offers.
Thanks. And honestly, if anyone’s got a problem with it, I think it’s high time analogheron19 stepped up and removed him!
I know exactly who’s talking about Cvite. I remember that game back in Columbus when we blew the championship right out of our hands. He was standing there on the field just absolutely sobbing, totally broken, before he dragged himself back to the stands in tears and gave him hell.☕
I need the full, up-to-date version of the law, including every single integrated amendment. I’m talking about the complete set of articles and subsections. Come on, you lot, let's get moving and dig this up ASAP.
Don't go biting at every single troll who posts; if you do, you’re basically just making things worse for everyone. It’s easy enough to spot one idiot post, delete it, and slap the necessary penalty on them. But constantly opening hundred of new threads and flagging the same old drama over and over? That doesn't help anyone. Honestly, it just creates more busywork for us and leads to more sanctions for all of you.
briskpanther said:Alright, let’s all just put our hands up and sing along, hahaha... man, just give up on the whole fan thing already...
Exactly. Everyone loves to talk trash about indoor soccer, it's just great, isn't it? But at the end of the day, our voice and our numbers actually matter where the fight happens—standing against the wall, facing those pathetic criminals and those losers who call themselves fans from Real Madrid. That’s where you need three hundred people, not in a basketball arena like the Boston Celtics where we basically run the show anyway. When we travel all season, it’s the same handful of faces every single time. The guys who scream the loudest at the indoor soccer games? You never see them anywhere else (and I'm not talking about the ones with the bans). Some people in their prime years are "fans" only on this online forum or on Facebook, where you can see what they look like and know for a fact they won't show up anywhere. They just keep talking shit. You don't win battles—let alone wars—from your couch, you little jokers. Let fifty kids carry the entire load on their backs until their spines snap, while your biggest concern is whether there's enough beer at the indoor soccer match. Once the wars are won—and they will be, because we don't know any other way—you'll all be puffing your chests out proudly. But deep down, everyone will know you did absolutely nothing. If you think posting crap on Facebook and forums contributes to the group, then do us all a favor and go jump off a bridge, just like that green extremist Nijaz. Delete this, analogheron19. I know this clashes with how you think, otherwise, this thread wouldn't even exist in the first place. 🙂
Look, as someone who is an actual supporter and part of this community, I just got back from a trip last night, and I don't think a single one of my traveling companions—or rather, my fellow sufferers—would agree with you. Or am I wrong?🤔
Jesse Campbell said:The whole thing went sideways because before '94, there was this Chicago Blackhawks fan club run by people working for the front office. Once they took over, everything turned into a mess. Still, if you ask me, those years were actually a solid era for the group, even if the stands didn't look nearly as organized as you pointed out.
The Blackhawks fans have always found a way to survive, and they always come out the other side stronger.
Honestly, back then, nobody gave a damn about the order of the banners or how the fences looked. We were focused on much bigger things within the group, and I’m certain we crushed it in those areas.☕
Robin Anderson8 said:That’s exactly my point. We need to grab this momentum while we have it. Right now, the spotlight is on us, and the political machine is actually paying attention for once. It's like when a small startup suddenly gets a massive feature on the front page of the Wall Street Journal—you don't just sit there and nod; you capitalize on that noise immediately. We have to leverage this public interest and push our agenda before the news cycle moves on to the next thing. If we don't strike while the iron is hot, we're just wasting a golden opportunity. It’s like listening to a bunch of parrots in a room, just mindlessly repeating the same tired talking point over and over again. "If we're the ones being scrutinized, why aren't Mamić, Šupraha, and the rest of that crowd with the massive criminal records getting hauled in too?" Honestly, give me a break. It's the same broken logic every single time.😵
You can't give them two days of peace. It’s constant. Every single time, someone feels the need to jump in and start lecturing us about some idiotic law, those damn blacklists, or dragging up all that old bullshit from the big shots and the corrupt elites. Honestly? It’s gotten to the point where just staying quiet is treated like a crime.