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frozengull94 said:made me laugh, pretty
wrote a reply (reacting to this quote), then just wiped it all out because it was way too off-topic
😉

really gotta watch this movie

I know you typed something out and then deleted it (swapped the pic 🙂 instead), and I didn't catch it right away, plus it would've gone totally off-topic anyway, but I think we're on the same page 😉

Alright, let's see who actually gets around to watching it...

frozengull94 said:The Van Halen movie is on a bunch of streaming sites.
Tried watching it yesterday, but it totally sucked, so I shut it off in like ten minutes. Too much skipping around, you gotta really prep just to sit through the whole thing.
It's on Netflix, but maybe it actually holds up.
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Yeah, I know it's out, saw the trailer before this thread even started; but honestly, I'm holding out for the big screen if I get the chance (if not, whatever, I guess I'll deal, since I don't even use some of those apps right now). I'm a total cinema junkie—like, private home theaters or tiny screens with fancy speakers aren't really an option for me right now, and they just aren't the same anyway. I love that classic experience, you know? The massive screen, the sound where you catch every little whisper, the dim lights in the theater... nothing else even comes close. Every time I try to watch something on a TV or a laptop after seeing it in theaters, I just can't really get into it (though I do watch a ton of stuff, not just movies, on those small screens). If there's a chance to see it in a theater, I'm taking it, at least once. It's the same with going to a play. As long as theaters and stages exist and I can actually walk into them, I'm gonna be there; doesn't always have to be an AMC Theatres or anything for new releases, though those comfy seats are hard to quit. It's cool that some theaters still do vintage screenings too.

offtop: Didn't you have a different avatar? 🤔 Or maybe I just mixed you up with someone else. With that other one, the green one, I used to always hesitate because of the double meaning. 😉

Matthew Johnson30 said:Watched it. Those artsy movies with all the slow pauses just to feel deep (Blade Runner, Dune) aren't really my thing, I was mostly just focused on the Marilyn Monroe story.

Saw a few docs about her before the movie. Honestly, I think she was doomed from day one—maybe genetic stuff, maybe just the environment she grew up in.
But probably more because of the era—women being sexualized with zero protection from predators, whether it’s on a movie set or in some factory.

Yeah, I agree. The whole thing about Marilyn Monroe, and not even just her, opens up a ton of other questions that could go on forever if you look elsewhere. And, most importantly, there's still no real answer to "The question," just speculation and "Top Secret" files. But I guess that's part of why the myth lives on.

Once I see the movie, I'll write down what I thought.

Matthew Johnson30 said:If the movie wasn't a total mess, I gotta say the best part was that black-and-white sequence near the end with Marilyn Monroe where you can't tell if she's dreaming or awake—total horror vibes.

It’s wild how much those massive pop culture icons from the supposed Golden Age of Hollywood—like Elvis Presley and Marilyn Monroe—have in common: gorgeous, young, sexualized people being run into the ground by older guys hooked on drugs, forcing them to go for "just one more performance" until they die way too soon.

So you actually watched it? I didn't think you did. I don't know when I'll get around to watching it; I'm not expecting much, maybe it'll surprise me, maybe not. Anyway, one actress who really nailed the role was Catherine Hicks in that TV movie "The Untold Story: Marilyn" (1980); it’s basically just a mashup of books and docs from back then, pretty good if you're into that stuff. Even though there are other actresses who look way more like Marilyn Monroe because of the makeup, Hicks somehow managed to capture her "soul," which is way more than most others or those wannabes could do. That "inner" vibe might not be for everyone, obviously, but it’s a movie trying to show someone's actual essence, and hers was totally one-of-a-kind. That crazy beauty she had in certain scenes might bother some people, but in some moments, she just glows while everyone else looks like a ghost, even if they were objectively hot. She had a thousand different faces depending on the era, and her face was just perfect for master makeup artists and stylists who produced looks people still try to copy today, but there's only one Marilyn Monroe. And for photographers? A total dream, just naturally photogenic.

Sadly, it wasn't just those two big names you mentioned, or some of the most recognizable faces out there; we're sold this "Hollywood glamour" dream, but behind the scenes, it was pure chaos for them, and in their heads too. When you look at where some of them came from and their backgrounds, they achieved so much. For someone without a stable family, bouncing between foster homes, always feeling vulnerable, with zero real protection or a motherly figure to lean on—and potentially facing abuse since you can't defend yourself at 8 or 10 years old—is it any wonder she achieved what she did in just 15 years? (I guess "achievement" is relative, but looking strictly at the theme here.) Maybe she could have worked in some factory until retirement or just gotten married—sure, she could have, but she had bigger dreams. And that first arranged marriage at only 16! (She met him at 15 and already looked incredibly mature, not like some lost kid growing up in a bubble) was just a temporary escape from her reality. Waiting for a husband who's overseas while working some machine in a factory... that definitely wasn't the dream. But hey, maybe she would've lived to be like Meryl Streep (born around the same time, 1926 or 1929), though I find it hard to imagine her still working well after 40; she was already pretty "burnt out" before she even hit 33. There are plenty of similar stories—some people flash bright and fast, but their rise or time at the top won't last long; then again, they leave a mark that lasts decades or even centuries (like certain painters, writers, or artists who weren't recognized while they were alive). Is all that worth the suffering and the messy life? Do you live just so people decades later will hang your photos or posters on their walls? So they can make movies about you or write books? Or is it more important to just live a peaceful, decent life with a longer lifespan? We can't really know why or...Maybe it's all just some top secret thing, I guess. Someone’s existence. Just how it had to be, I guess.

analogsurfer7 said:I mean, you guys actually get that it's just a movie, right? I guess. Total fiction, I guess.It’s based on a book where the author straight up says it’s fiction, not an autobiography. So I don't get why people here are getting all worked up about how Marilyn Monroe was portrayed when the movie is basically pure make-believe. Like, maybe be mad at the film itself? Instead of acting like it's some factual documentary because you're convinced that's how she actually lived. This is just extreme.

Look, people gotta realize this stuff is fiction—or at least mostly made up. Directors and writers have total freedom to shape a movie however they want. If you go into a film with that mindset, you won't be sitting there wondering why things were shot a certain way or why certain scenes happened. Same goes for "Elvis Presley" or whatever. Movies might touch on some biographical bits, but after that, it’s just artistic liberty. I mean, who actually wants perfect accuracy? Unless you were actually there or part of the inner circle, just watch a documentary or read a book or look stuff up on YouTube if you want the real facts. Like, maybe you find an interview with someone's spouse who confirms or denies a detail from a biopic—kind of like how you'd check with someone close to a legend like Frank Sinatra.

Matthew Johnson30 said:I mean, she definitely wasn't picking at her face or dealing with Tourette's, I guess. But if she had a personality disorder? Yeah, any decent psychiatrist in America today could probably confirm that.

Living back then was just total garbage. For someone like Marilyn Monroe, they didn't even have decent therapy or actual meds to help. As a woman? Even worse. They just kept pumping her full of codeine and amphetamine mixes. I guess.

Barbiturates, plus a whole mess of other synthetic junk. The thing is, back then people really didn't get how dangerous those pills were. Like, even a teenage Judy Garland was basically being abused by the "higher-ups" on the set of *The Wizard of Oz*—her mom mostly, but the directors too, I guess. They were obsessed with her weight, making sure she wouldn't gain a single ounce, so they supposedly let her eat next to nothing all day, like just some tiny bit of soup or whatever, while filming went on forever. I don't know why they picked her to play someone years younger, but they pushed her so hard to look "smaller" or "slighter." To pull that off and keep her awake enough to actually get through the shoot, they used this "red pill" for... I guess maybe it's just lifting? idk. Woke up, thinking about that blonde... maybe. I guess it's just a drop. Maybe. I mean, maybe they were just taking sleeping pills? Or whatever. I remember hearing that even stars like Betty Grable were popping sets of pills just to keep their figure tight—pretty much the whole celebrity scene back then. They’d just grab handfuls of them without a second thought about the fallout. Has anything actually changed? Probably not. It’s just more expensive, more potent, or mixed with booze now. Hollywood never gave a damn about anyone, and whether those people actually had a choice or if they were forced into that "exclusive snake pit"... I guess that's just an untold story.

offtopic :

I don't know anything about this movie yet (gonna dig into the details after I watch it), I just saw the trailer recently. I'll check it out when I get a chance, and I really hope it isn't as limp as the last one. Like, sure, there are some cool details and high production value, but nothing actually sticks—you already know what's coming from scene to scene because her life story has been chewed up and turned into such a cliché. Maybe they'll never actually untangle what went down that unlucky night in August 1962, but I'm pretty sure "someone" or "somebody" knows exactly what happened. That doesn't mean the whole world needs to know, obviously, but there are people who *do* know (and I bet they're still alive). You shouldn't idolize anyone, especially not actors from a global superpower like the US (especially once you watch it and analyze the public footage, but even with the newest documentaries, there's always a huge question mark over certain things. It’s not just about her end; there's a mountain of other details people supposedly didn't know about for decades). There's the romanticized version for the masses, and then there's the Top Secret stuff meant only for the chosen few. Maybe eventually someone else will leak something (like that recent DNA analysis of her hair—wouldn't that help track down her real father? Believe it or not, there are collectors who buy up hair from famous icons, or even just strands left in a brush or a makeup kit from some stylist).

Anyway, sometimes you just shouldn't know too much or go poking the bear when things aren't going your way ("pillow talk" is dangerous, and not everyone claiming to be your friend actually is, especially since part of her inner circle apparently had a "side mission," whatever that means regarding MM...), and sometimes you just accidentally overdose... Or maybe someone "helps" you along with that... Where's the truth? Somewhere in the middle, I guess...

Honestly, I wouldn't change a thing. It had that one killer Johnny's mambo vibe, plus Cynthia and Patrick... <3 Shoutout to Burger King and the rest of the crew for the hard work.

Johnny's mambo—literally played this a million times

A little more iconic dance vibes to warm up:

: off : just a bit more Patrick (with the amazing Lisa):

Since we're talking about Elvis Presley 😁, I wish they'd made a quick montage of all those guns from the new movie lined up together, kinda like that clip from "Taxi Driver" I posted earlier... He was such a hardcore gun nut and collector ... I guess 🙂

Just a little peek at the collection, if you want more, go hunt for it:

two revolvers and a badge
Update: Elvis Presley's Colt Python went for $172,500 and his Smith & Wesson 19-2 hit $195,500.
That badge pulled $40,250.

auction 1

auction 2



Elvis Presley can be seen using the following weapons in the following films

a mockup of Thompson M1928A1 on promotion image

"Elvis" (1979)

from 8:30

"Elvis Meets Nixon" (1997)

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Is that Julius? Good old Caesar!

since there isn't anything more solid or concrete: 😁

Susan Bennett5 said:I suppose I just hope our friend here used a bit of hyperbole regarding the weight of that basket hilted sword. 😁
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Benicio's badass survival knife from 'The Hunted'.

If he was, I guess it fits his usual writing style, which is basically what I was getting at 🙂 😉 Look, don't ask me about the weight of these beauties. I'm looking at them from an aesthetic and collector's standpoint, regardless of the actual skill needed to swing them—though, obviously, even that stuff is packed with layers of symbolism (or at least these movie shots) that are pretty cool to dig into.

Susan Bennett5 said:Something a bit darker.

Watching this for the first time as a kid left a permanent mark on my memory, and not in a good way.

I’ve seen much more grotesque, disturbing, and psychologically taxing stuff in movies since then,
but this was one of the first, and the thought of it has always lingered in the back of my mind.

I’ve watched the film a dozen times, and judging by the last 10 seconds of this scene,
it always felt like Mills and Somerset were only just realizing how truly messed up this individual really is.

Top-tier scene, top-tier acting, and in my opinion, still the best film ever made within this genre.

There isn't any violence in the scene per se, but it's implied, which serves as its own warning. I won't be posting a picture of the weapon.

And to connect a little trivia to my previous post,
the guy being interviewed by Mills (Pitt's character) is the actor who shot Brandon Lee on the set of crow.

Do you like what you do for a living? These things you see?
No. No, I don't. But that's life, isn't it?

Man, you nailed the vibe of "Se7en," that modern American "crime-thriller-horror" classic. I kept thinking about that movie regarding this topic too, but I figured someone would have already posted scenes from it, like how our friend above remembered that famous Texan with the saw 😛

I got so used to Kevin's twisted character in that flick that I never really thought about who else could play him, though, I guess we can always mix and match actors for roles. It's wild seeing this pathetic guy being interrogated here (Leland Orser) playing a forced "executioner" using a specific kind of "tool" that—honestly—even horror buffs probably won't find easy to watch (when you think about what the victim actually went through), especially since just a few years later he's playing a deviant similar to Kevin in "Bone Collector."

Sometimes the way things happen is way scarier than the actual weapon or tool or even the atmosphere of a scene where an axe or some amount of nasty blood just can't compete. So, while this topic is pretty specific, it could totally be expanded, or maybe it'd work better as its own thread about "cult" moments in thrillers or horror that left people feeling uneasy, if not straight-up terrified.

I don't know which of the "seven" was more unsettling, scary, or gross for me, and I don't even need to mention the ending of the movie. Sadly, that stuff isn't just fiction captured by a director's lens. Also, "Bone Collector" holds its own when it comes to those "flashes" of a warped mind (or just ripping ideas from crime novels).

I can't find any full scenes from "Bone Collector" (like the one with the rats, man, it's not showing up, probably copyright issues or whatever); here's one that's creepy enough for the vibe:

From recent movies—great film (seems "light" or fun at first), great lead actress, great plot twist at the end (though unfortunately bad for the main girl); gotta watch the whole thing to really get this (incomplete) scene:

the day after - wedding ending scene

ending explained

Jack Cook7 said:That legendary scene at the end of Sledg where he's just tearing through that church. 😁

Check out some of these iconic weapons.

By the way, a saber like that would weigh like 40 pounds easily, so don't go waving it around like it's nothing! 🤣

Wanted to post that scene, I mean, I love Liam anyway, even if he's just swinging a little saber like a weakling 🙂
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Being straight-up malicious and mocking innocent people can definitely backfire...

...just like that suffocating parental "love"...or any of those fake "caring" vibes... 🙄 🙂

Nah, we still remember some of those cult classics from the "not exactly pretty" category, but you gotta decide if you'd rather chill in a cabin by the lake or just take a worry-free shower 😬

This lonely "summer forest ranger" type changed his look quite a bit throughout the franchise, switching from that famous axe to machetes and all sorts of random tools he could grab



Even this mama's boy had a rough time in his own skin:



Man, it's so hot out... perfect for a nice shower... 🙂

Sword vs. sword, just to wrap up Conan the Barbarian:




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Susan Bennett5 said:It’s probably the most legendary one ever. 🙏
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They really don't make them like they used to. 😢

It’s an understatement to say I love this movie and everyone in it,
especially the famous Zweihänder.

Just a perfect, beautiful, and super precise stab right into the wood—and man, how many of those are there all over the place? <3
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Some dental classics here— Is it safe? 🙂

plus that chilling aid from the
White Angel
I know that man!

Forget those diamonds of yours, they aren't exactly your best friends!

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That iconic bag with its matching "kit," plus some knowledge of anatomy from late 19th-century foggy Whitechapel (not getting too deep into the scene details, especially regarding Mary Kelly):



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And one more cult movie prop:





Why would she ever take the elevator? (too graphic, shorter version) 🙂

🙂 😉

Darth's method hits hard... (reminds me a bit of those real-life "experiments" from just a little further away—way before Darth&co, but also somewhat closer to the past. Makes you wonder how far that actually went... 😉 )

Yeah, honestly this thread probably shouldn't have all the "too graphic" scenes, but some are so intense, how do you even skip them? 🙂

And these "items" are pretty sweet on their own, like real collector pieces.

a little more Excalibur:

Lady of the Lake
One day a King will Come, and the sword will rise again.

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plus a little more psychological approach combined...

since there's no officially banned stuff, I guess the rings from the mall/heavy jewelry/fists work (you don't see the shot where she puts the rings on, right before wrapping her hands) - Self-defense is not murder.

part 2 (couldn't find the whole scene in one clip)

+ mandatory training - And what do you do after you attack? Nothing.(...) But because you know what he'll do, you're smilling inside.

and one impressive male psychological approach, for people who don't have weak stomachs - You should have taken the money!

Susan Bennett5 said:[/I]

Well, alright then. I guess this is fine.

Let him go once more, just to make sure the material sticks.

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This one might not be quite as legendary as that dragon katana he pulls out later in the film, but I guess it’s still a beautiful piece of steel.

MacLeod Claymore.

And of course...

And this one—true, maybe it isn't as legendary as that dragon katana he uses later in the movie, but still, it's a gorgeous piece of steel.

MacLeod Claymore

Yeah, both are beauties...
unboxing of Connor's katana


a slightly longer look

...plus a bunch of shots from the film and some variations on the theme...

This beauty here too...(starting at 1:14)

pick whichever one you want

and another classic fight scene

(from 1:01)

Total cult classic