Sam Alvarez4 said:Personally, I don't really get why the 'War in Ukraine' got moved over to the politics section.
Back when this was sitting in the World News sub, the level of discourse was... well, let's just say it was manageable. Ever since they dumped it into Politics, though? It’s been a total dumpster fire, to put it mildly.
And then you’ve got people trying to dump photos and maps right into the middle of the chaos. 🤦 Has anyone here ever heard of using links? Seriously.
But weren't you the one constantly complaining about how messy the World News section was getting anyway?
William Anderson5 said:As far as I can tell, Azov isn't part of those Nazi Russian forces—they're actually fighting against them.
Wait, "Nazi Russian forces"? Why not just call them communist forces then? Their whole end goal is bringing back the USSR, not building some Third Reich nightmare.
William Anderson5 said:Just listen to Putin's hour-long pro-Nazi speech. Aside from mentioning borders, that whole thing has nothing to do with old-school Soviet ideology. It’s actually quite the opposite...
I mean, obviously he isn't going to push communism when that entire ideology went down the drain ages ago.
Richard Wilson4 said:Just take a look at those Russian militias running around the Luhansk and Donetsk areas. It’s basically a messy cocktail of old-school USSR leftovers and hardcore Russian ultranationalism.
That’s exactly my point, even back in the old USSR, they were essentially pulling off forced nationalization left and right. So, honestly, how is this modern Russia any different from what we saw in the years between the two World Wars?
Gerald Torres84 said:It’s because Germans are such calculated cowards. They want all the perks of the action without actually having to step up and commit to anything.
If you ask me, Ukrainians could easily justify being absolutely livid about what they're dealing with right now especially toward that Nobel Prize winner.
Douglas Davis4 said:Well, that’s fine then. We were the last ones to join the European Union... poisoned by that outdated communist mindset. I suppose we shouldn't try to force our "brilliance" on them, right?
And there it is—that exact mentality right there. No wonder people look at us like we're just some bunch of simpletons.
Douglas Davis4 said:Look, we aren't fascists or mobsters. We Americans don't even have our own organized mafia like they do in Mexico or Russia; our people just end up getting sucked into those kinds of organizations instead.
so you're actually celebrating that they kicked him out of the tester phase? i don't get why anyone would dwell on that when there are so many other things happening
Douglas Davis4 said:The way the world is treating Russia right now... they're being kicked out of everything everywhere Even the local symphony orchestra refused to perform works by any Russian composers Everyone can slap sanctions on them for as long as they want, and once this war finally ends They’ll be facing massive demands for reparations to help rebuild Ukraine
we should probably find a way to mark all Russians while they're in the US so we can spot them instantly, then just make sure they aren't allowed to eat at restaurants or shop in stores
I’m passing on that, mostly because I’m a total coward and you’re just a straight-up chicken who folds the second we hit a point where you actually have to admit you messed up a conclusion. So, honestly, I don't see the point in even trying that route with you.
Once you actually prove you can handle answering a few basic questions, maybe then I'll consider keeping up with yours.
Now why don't you just go ahead and run back to Reddit so I can retreat in a fit of terrified, helpless rage and go find some other easy target to roast?
Nicholas Patel44 said:That’s just his classic move right there. You really have to get used to his specific brand of humor, because honestly, he spends half his time making jokes about how I'm basically a walking circus act.😁
It isn't even humor when someone constantly twists your posts around and puts words in your mouth. Then they go out of their way to label you a fascist or some kind of Nazi propagandist just to drive a point home. When you actually call them out on the lies, they just spin the narrative even further. The real headache is that this guy can't tell the difference between an outright lie and a simple mistake, so even if you try to apologize or set the record straight, he won't let you have the last word. It happened just the other day with one of my coworkers; he was tearing her apart even after she tried to make amends. He was clearly just enjoying the spectacle, which is wild considering she hadn't even said a single thing to him about himself.
Look, I’ll be the one to testify here: bluecyclist64 absolutely lives for a sub-reddit flame war, and once he declares himself the winner on some other thread, he just starts tearing people apart. Honestly, he’s pulled this exact stunt on me more than a few times. Who would even bother asking someone to go read his entire life's work in the chatroom?
Sorry for going off-topic, guys. But I have to do this here because I’m honestly shaking at the mere thought of getting into a debate with him. I'm using this safe space since the mods always swoop in the second things get heated.
Let me know when you actually catch one for once. Look, can we please just cut out the guesswork and the intentional misinterpretations? I'm asking for a little basic decency here—just read what's actually on the page without trying to twist my words or project some weird agenda onto them. Since we’re on the topic of selective memory, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but if my recall is serving me right—and let's be honest, it usually does even when I'm being a bit of a mess—you were actually the one complaining that I was constantly poking the bear and picking fights. Now, don't get me wrong, I wasn't necessarily saying I was out here being a full-blown menace, but that was definitely the vibe you were going for. And you’re the same guy who couldn't back up a single word of that nonsense about how great the stability was or those ridiculous summer capes they were supposedly wearing out in Siberia. So, honestly? Save your breath, man. Go ahead and yawn all you want. So, I’m heading back into my hole now, I guess. I’ll just sit here in the dark until someone else starts crying or decides to go throw themselves at some random girl on a forum. 👋
bluecyclist64 said:Short and blunt. One group whines about the scientific approach because they can't indulge in their fantasies, while the other grumbles because they can't effectively push neo-fascist revisionism.
lonetrucker4 moderating the Off-topic area? That's a first.
Listen, you degenerate: just upload the posts where lonetrucker4 and I were busy proclaiming the wonders of communism. If you find yourself unable to get the job done, just walk away. Honestly, take your own advice for once—you clearly need to call in a professional to handle this one.
Honestly, just head over to Alternative. I’m being completely serious. It’s the perfect place if you have no intention of actually knowing anything; you can just spend your time making wild assumptions and hallucinating whatever nonsense you want without anyone calling you out on it.
Who exactly are these people you’re referring to? Don't be so timid. Am I perhaps one of them, my gentle and considerate little bird?
Oh, please. Everyone knows exactly who you are—and believe me, dealing with you would come at a very high price. Let’s consider the possibility of conducting an extensive excavation at the site of the former concentration camp to finally account for everyone—specifically those whose remains were lost to the currents of the river or simply never recovered. It would be a grueling, somber undertaking, but perhaps necessary if we truly want to achieve a sense of closure. The truth....
Only complete idiots would peddle such theories—but then again, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no matter how moronic it might be.🤣
I intend to follow the forum rules, and I reserve the right to hold my own opinions.
Do keep in mind, however, that moderators also have rights. Furthermore, other users on this board have every right to call you out when you fail to provide sources or when you start pushing neo-fascist propaganda.
You're clearly an expert at playing dumb, much like you are at being a jerk to everyone you talk to. I’m done getting my hands dirty trying to have a conversation with you.👋
lonetrucker4 said:Some Stalinist fanatic took a few hits to the face and finally crawled back into his hole. But the real headache? The deniers. They’re relentless. Just waves of them hitting us every couple of months like a bad storm.
People were just going at it over the death tolls during the Stalin era. Some folks dropped links to pretty solid sources claiming the numbers are actually under a few million—which is what most historians point to. If I recall correctly, you’re looking at maybe 600-something thousand deaths from executions and camps combined. Still a massive body count, though. The numbers for forced collectivization and the crackdown on farmers probably get inflated too, but that’s just how the game is played. It's like how people go overboard with the stats on things like the Trail of Tears or the aftermath of the Civil War. As for the victims of the communist regime after the war, we're still mostly in the dark since they never released those official lists of names they promised us a decade ago.
The issue with lonetrucker4 being a mod is that he’s got zero consistency. Like, one minute he’s handing out bans because someone’s getting "too emotional," then he lets a hundred posts fly filled with nothing but pure feelings—including his own little meltdowns. Total joke. Just drop a reality check on them when they start spiraling. It’s all just pure vibes and bad moods instead of actual facts or anything even remotely credible. They aren't arguing points; they're just venting about who they hate. Problem is when... Pure vibes, nothing else. That’s it. End of story.
So, some shady site just rips content straight from a pro historian's book—and if you drop the link here, suddenly you're the one causing trouble? Give me a break.
Sometimes, yeah. Some websites are absolute trash, and honestly, so are some writers. Take that guy Roman Leljak you mentioned once. He’s basically a career con artist with a rap sheet longer than my grocery list—the reason you got flagged back in February. The dude lies way too much for us to take anything he says seriously, even if he occasionally stumbles onto a fact. I told you then: "If there's a legit source, post it!" It was about that claim in the Diana Budisavljevic thread—that Milan Nedic in Belgrade was complaining that people weren't adopting kids from Kozara, and only 230 were taken. If I remember right, you never actually dropped a link. And frankly, the idea that those kids even made it all the way to Belgrade sounds fishy; I don't recall seeing that anywhere. Would the authorities back then have even allowed that? If there really is a Nedic quote like that, what does it actually say? Besides, Leljak only brings this up to pivot the focus toward Mexico and the Nedic regime, acting like the claim proves something even if it were true. Honestly, nimblemoose72 wrote more sense than him. )
It’s like that one site, CNN.com or whatever, where every single article is just, "Well, this historian said this thing in his specific book." It's exhausting.
Yo, did I get banned by you over one of those posts?
You’ve racked up six strikes from me in the last year alone. Last one was for an oversized image, and two were for that whole Holocaust denial nonsense—you know, that "we don't know anything, we need more digging" routine.
It was the anniversary of some historical figure's birth today. Some historians treat him like a saint, while others call him a straight-up communist war criminal with lists of victims attached. And you think bringing that to this forum for a debate is a good idea? In this moderation section!?
Look, a lot of what you write is actually solid and interesting. If you’ve got a legit source—and I mean a real source, not those trashy tabloid rags that are basically just cheap knockoffs of the big national papers, or those clearly biased political historians—then post it. There are all kinds of hacks out there. Like that guy Dr. Stephen Miller—total hack, claims nothing happened at those concentration camps until the partisans showed up to take the blame, and he even argues the Earth is flat because "true believers can see it in the Bible." Just stick to the facts.
I’m only bringing this up because I ran into a few characters over on the off-topic boards who seem to treat this guy like some kind of saint just because he once claimed to be an anti-fascist—as if that gives him a lifetime pass to act however he wants. Then, get this, they actually turned around and called me a fascist just because I had the nerve to criticize him. It’s honestly exhausting. These people love lurking in those unmoderated corners of the forum where they can just dump their toxic sludge and throw vulgar insults at anyone who disagrees with them. Look, I’m not exactly the type of guy who enjoys grinding my gears over petty internet arguments, so after wasting a bunch of energy on debates that lead absolutely nowhere, I just had to ask myself why I was even bothering. Honestly? Life is too short. I decided to just step away from those topics entirely.
Give me one or two shots straight to the solar plexus, please. First off, I’ll say this: I am all for slapping sanctions on anyone trying to downplay the trauma this nation endured at the hands of that concentration camp, regardless of how many people actually died there—even if we're talking about a single guy who just slipped on some wet stairs at the guard tower, which, let's be honest, I don't know enough about to get into a heated debate over.
I’m genuinely curious, though—would history look at the lawyers who served Stalin’s regime in the exact same way? You know, by counting up the body count and claiming they were just exaggerating the massacres or those brutal conditions in the Gulags?
Back on December 13, 2021, you caught a five-point strike for "don't escalate the argument."
The one before that, for insulting another user, was way back in August. That was for saying "your brain can't even wrap itself around this." Basically breaking the rule about attacking an idea instead of the actual person.
Christian Torres3 and a few others have made a habit of talking down to people like that, so don't act surprised when they actually get slapped with a penalty.
Look, lonetrucker4, I’d tell you to hang in there, but it looks like you’re already hitting your limit. 😁 Good luck, and maybe try to stick around long enough to make it into the hall of fame.
So, my ban's set to lift in about two hours or so, what are the odds I can actually find out why I got booted without getting a formal warning first? I’d really love to avoid making the exact same mistake again.