brightpuma said:I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?
The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.
Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.
After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?
The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.
Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.
After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?
The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.
Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.
After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?
The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.
Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.
After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?
The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.
Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.
After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
Empowering them doesn't mean the DoD and the VA suddenly become the sole decision-makers overnight. It just means there'll be more flow from the bottom up, with the DoD and the VA acting as the primary drivers and initiators.
The second issue here is that you guys just don't get how the New York City Council agenda actually works. You can't just cherry-pick the neighborhood council opinions you like and toss them into a proposal while ignoring the ones you don't. That's not how it functions.
If the rule is that every single opinion has to be on the agenda? Then I'm all for it.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?
The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.
Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.
After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?
The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.
Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.
After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?
The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.
Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.
After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?
The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.
Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.
After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
Empowering them doesn't mean the DoD and the VA suddenly become the sole decision-makers overnight. It just means there'll be more flow from the bottom up, with the DoD and the VA acting as the primary drivers and initiators.
The second issue here is that you guys just don't get how the New York City Council agenda actually works. You can't just cherry-pick the neighborhood council opinions you like and toss them into a proposal while ignoring the ones you don't. That's not how it functions.
If the rule is that every single opinion has to be on the agenda? Then I'm all for it.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?
The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.
Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.
After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.
Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?
The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.
Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.
After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?
The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.
Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.
After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
Empowering them doesn't mean the DoD and the VA suddenly become the sole decision-makers overnight. It just means there'll be more flow from the bottom up, with the DoD and the VA acting as the primary drivers and initiators.
The second issue here is that you guys just don't get how the New York City Council agenda actually works. You can't just cherry-pick the neighborhood council opinions you like and toss them into a proposal while ignoring the ones you don't. That's not how it functions.
If the rule is that every single opinion has to be on the agenda? Then I'm all for it.
I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?
The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.
Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.
After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?
The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.
Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.
After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
Empowering them doesn't mean the DoD and the VA suddenly become the sole decision-makers overnight. It just means there'll be more flow from the bottom up, with the DoD and the VA acting as the primary drivers and initiators.
The second issue here is that you guys just don't get how the New York City Council agenda actually works. You can't just cherry-pick the neighborhood council opinions you like and toss them into a proposal while ignoring the ones you don't. That's not how it functions.
If the rule is that every single opinion has to be on the agenda? Then I'm all for it.
Empowering them doesn't mean the DoD and the VA suddenly become the sole decision-makers overnight. It just means there'll be more flow from the bottom up, with the DoD and the VA acting as the primary drivers and initiators.
The second issue here is that you guys just don't get how the New York City Council agenda actually works. You can't just cherry-pick the neighborhood council opinions you like and toss them into a proposal while ignoring the ones you don't. That's not how it functions.
If the rule is that every single opinion has to be on the agenda? Then I'm all for it.
It doesn't even matter how you spin what the Democrats were pushing before the election. Refusing to include the input of the actual body involved in the vote is more than just shady... it's a total violation of democracy, at best...
Just be decent, include him, vote differently, and act like you actually have some sense. This is basically the 1966 platform...
So they're actually pushing through this landfill in a neighborhood where nobody even wants it. The local council, the citizens' assembly, all the neighborhood boards... everyone is against it. Total joke...
So you're actually gonna include some input from that Downtown neighborhood council? They barely even have a say in anything. And you're planning to crush construction waste just 300 meters from someone's house and only 6 meters away from those Oranice-style community gardens that feed all of New York City... unbelievable...
Either Democratic or Green...
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