Honestly, breastfeeding isn't some sexual thing for me—it definitely doesn't carry any sexual vibes at all. 🤷 The only way it would even cross my mind is if someone was just out walking around with their breasts exposed without a baby attached, you know? But even then, the way women actually do it—just lifting a shirt a bit or unhooking a bra so you can barely see anything except maybe an inch or two around the baby's mouth—that really doesn't do anything for me.
Honestly, I feel like we really ought to throw a picture into this thread—it’s just way too tough to try and wrap our heads around such a messy, complicated issue using nothing but theory and words.
papa štrumf is basically saying: it all comes down to your "why"—that's what decides if you're just dropping cash or actually building wealth.
Think about it this way—if you're buying a place to actually live in, you're taking on an expense. But if you're hunting for that perfect flip to sell later? Now you're talking about an investment.
Check out this data from back in July 2008: "Federal Reserve analysts found that real estate prices in the US shot up by 89.9 percent over the previous decade—with a massive 61.6 percent of that jump happening in just the last four years alone. Compare that to the stretch between 1997 and 2003, where things were way more chill, growing by only about 17.5 percent total."
So, yeah—anyone who pulled the trigger ten years ago is sitting pretty right now. But here’s the real question: are you actually expecting that kind of crazy appreciation over the next five or ten years? Like, does buying right now even qualify as an "investment" if you're looking for those kinds of returns?
And let’s be real for a second—even if someone made a killing selling a place they bought a decade ago, they can only actually pocket that cash if they decide to walk away from owning property altogether. Because if they want to stay in the game and buy another place, the price of that new home has likely climbed right along with their old one. It’s like a shell game where you move from one expensive house to another... so when you crunch the numbers, your actual profit ends up being basically zero.
Mark Nguyen6 said:True, but then again—what other option do you really have if you don't have a permanent place to live? If you pay roughly the same amount in rent, the day you move out, all you're taking with you is your laundry. But here, when you eventually move, you're taking the equity of the home with you.
In the meantime, you've essentially invested in your own freedom—having your own style, not answering to a landlord, having some comfort, and so on. I assume we don't need to explain the fundamental difference between being a tenant and being an owner.
But honestly, that’s exactly the point! When we talk about what is investment in an economic sense, we're talking about something that builds actual value or—if you're feeling a bit more aggressive—something that generates income. Now, having a super comfy lifestyle doesn't generate income, just like having a steady paycheck doesn't automatically buy you freedom from a boss.
You've really gotta draw a line between the economic definition and the casual way people use the word "investment"—otherwise, you end up making weak excuses for buying a house. Look, I bought my condo because I wanted to "invest" in my own peace of mind and independence. But strictly speaking? My place isn't an investment. It’s tied up in a mortgage, I spent a ton of extra cash customizing the interior, and I’m not looking to flip it for a quick profit whenever the market spikes—I actually want to live there for the long haul. From a cold, hard investment standpoint, it’s a total flop—I’d probably be better off putting that money elsewhere. That said, if you look at it as a form of forced savings, I can pretty much count on getting back roughly what I put in, give or take whatever the current market vibes are.
Honestly, if you’re buying a place just to finally have a roof over your head, the only way you’re actually seeing a profit is through pure speculation—and even then, it's a massive stretch. You'd have to hope the value sky-rockets way past what you paid, plus inflation, plus all those annoying upkeep costs like new cabinets or swapping out old bathroom fixtures. That kind of windfall isn't something people actually plan for when they're signing mortgage papers, anyway. So, calling it an "investment" feels like a bit of a reach to me. If I had to label it, I'd say it's more like a form of forced savings—you're basically tucking away the value of that home over time, and if things ever get hairy, you can eventually liquidate it for cash.
Come on now, you guys are just daydreaming. Let’s get real and look at a practical example—something we can actually wrap our heads around. Say you’re looking at a house priced at $120,000, just to keep the math simple. Now, let's say you take out a loan for a third of that value—so, $40,000—spread over a 15-year term. At a 7% interest rate, your monthly mortgage payment would sit right around $359. If you were renting a place like that, your rent would be roughly the same amount anyway. So, when you crunch the numbers, your actual profit is basically zero—especially since you have to account for that "rent" money you're essentially paying to yourself to cover the loan.
And don't even get me started on appreciation. Imagine you bought a place back in 2007 and you're trying to flip it in 2011, right when the market is cratering and everything is worth at least ten percent less than what you paid. In my book, you can't just bank on appreciation like it's guaranteed profit—not once you start factoring in things like depreciation and inflation.
What is investment Think of it as grabbing an asset or something specific with the goal of seeing it pay you back later or grow in value down the road. In an economic sense, an investment is basically buying stuff you don't use up right now, but instead use later to build up some serious wealth. When we're talking about things in the financial sense, an investment is a money-based asset you pick up because you expect it to either cough up some income later or jump up in price so you can flip it for a profit.
Investopedia explains investment... Building out a massive manufacturing plant to churn out products, or even the money you sink into getting a degree at a place like Harvard or a state university, are both classic examples of investments in an economic sense.
In the financial sense, investments include things like picking up bonds, stocks, or Real Estate.
Just a heads-up though—don't go mixing up "making an investment" with just straight-up speculating. Investing usually involves the creation of wealth, whereas speculating is more of a zero-sum game where no new wealth actually gets made. Even if speculators think they've done their homework, most people wouldn't call what they're doing traditional investing.
So, I was digging through the Real Estate subforum earlier, and I noticed this debate popping up for the second time now—basically, can buying a home you actually intend to live in really be called an "investment"? On the surface, it feels like a no-brainer, right? But if we're being technical, an investment usually implies some kind of recurring cash flow—monthly, quarterly, whatever—that pays you back. If you’re living in it, you aren't seeing any profit; in fact, it’s just a constant drain on your wallet. In my book, a primary residence is a weird hybrid category. You have to weigh the expected value against all the costs, like mortgage interest (which is pretty much the norm these days) and general upkeep. Plus, most people don't sell their homes because they're trying to play the market like a Wall Street trader; they sell because life happens—they need cash, they need more space, or they're moving for work. They aren't timing the market to squeeze out every last cent.
To me, a house is more like a forced savings account—kind of like the "gold standard" for the average person. It's a tangible asset you hold onto to preserve value over the long haul, but it doesn't check the boxes of a true investment. Unless, of course, you're using the term loosely, like when someone says they're "investing" in a new 4K Sony TV for their living room.
One user over in that thread put it this way: "Of course a home is an investment, even if you live in it! Not everyone is lucky enough to land a massive four-bedroom house right off the bat. For those who start out in a tiny studio or a one-bedroom apartment and then have kids, that place is absolutely an investment because they'll eventually have to sell it to upgrade to something bigger." But honestly, wouldn't you call that more like strategic saving rather than a pure investment move?
What do you guys think about this? Is it an investment or just a fancy way to store wealth?
Is sex just some massive illusion? I mean, if we actually got younger and more fit by having it, then sure, I'd get it. But instead, you wake up one day feeling totally wrecked and worn out—just an old shell with a limp rod and a shriveled-up lady parts—so what’s even the point of the whole thing?
From the opening post in the thread "Forum Job Board: For those looking or offering work":
Also—just a quick heads-up for anyone under 18—could you please keep all those seasonal gigs and odd jobs over in the dedicated threads on Pixars or some other sub-forum? This specific thread isn't really the spot for that kind of thing.
So, a buddy of mine is throwing a christening bash this Saturday—big plans, big crowd—and we’re gonna need a massive mountain of ice to keep the beer chilled. I’m talking about that crushed, pebble-style ice, you know, the kind they use at the local fish market to keep everything fresh. Does anyone know where I can snag a huge supply of that stuff around here?
Man, after scrolling through a few posts on this sub, I actually had to double-check the name of this thing. Given the absolute chaos I just read, I was pretty damn sure the title was supposed to be "Psychiatry Ward."
Olivia Lopez10 said:I honestly don't get it—why are all the guys on these forums hanging out in threads about white laundry? Like, seriously, what's the deal there?🤔
So, I was dealing with those annoying little stains that just won't budge from my white shirts—you know the ones, where you think you've cleaned everything but there’s still that weird discoloration hanging around—and I honestly thought this guy was going through the exact same struggle. I was like, "Hey, I get it," thinking we were in the same boat with our laundry mishaps. 😁 Or he’d just drop some revolutionary new laundry hack that makes ironing shirts totally obsolete—basically making half of you redundant overnight! ☕
I was just scrolling through Vic's feed and stumbled upon this hilarious post from Tochkica about some gynecologist... check this out: "He had this one patient coming in for six years straight—every few months, same old issue. She couldn't shake these yeast infections, which, you know, usually means it's linked to her partner. Every time she’d show up at his door, he'd be like... ugh, not the yeast infections again... And then, one day, she walks in and says, 'Oh gosh, doctor... not the yeast infections again!' And he goes, 'No, I actually got rid of them!!'"
This might be a bit of a tangent for this sub, but I figured this is where the real experts hang out who could actually give me some solid advice.
So, here’s the deal: a buddy of mine asked for a hand finding someone to help look after two elderly folks who have some mobility issues. They’ve already got the medical side of things and meal prep totally covered—what they really need is someone to tackle the daily grind, stuff like:
- house cleaning (bathrooms, toilets, dusting, windows, floors, all that good stuff...) - tidying up (making beds, laundry management...) - doing the dishes - washing and ironing clothes - grocery runs - pharmacy trips if needed - hitting up the post office (to handle bills and such)
We figured they don't need a full-time presence, just maybe three days a week—say Monday, Wednesday, and Friday—for about four hours each session to spread the workload out. That works out to roughly 13 or 14 days a month. And honestly, he’s not looking for any of those shady "caregiver for inheritance" schemes you see in The New York Times headlines like "we will care for your elderly loved one in exchange for property"—he just wants a reliable person with a clear checklist who gets a steady monthly paycheck.
I'm trying to wrap my head around the math—how much should a service like this run per month? Is an hourly rate of $8.25 way off base, or does that sound about right for this kind of work? At that rate, we're looking at roughly $467 a month.
If anyone here has experience either hiring help like this or working as a caregiver themselves, I’m all ears—any insights would be awesome! 🙂
Erosion... Maybe it’s a bit out of line, but I couldn't help but think of that old saying—you know, the one about how some things just aren't meant to be used up until there's nothing left 😁