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silverbear38 said:The whole crowd sipping coffee on the boardwalk... :t:
If you actually moved everyone off the waterfront, they wouldn't even all fit in the Rose Bowl.🙂
wearyraven25 said:We ruined every single anthem by speeding them up.
Some might think this is a joke, but why are we singing faster than ever? It’s simple. The stands are mostly on stimulants and soda these days, whereas back in the day, people were actually hitting the hard stuff.
I don't get why my posts keep getting nuked. I was just laying out facts to try and clear things up for him...
Taylor Hughes61 said:Kansas City Chiefs vs. Los Angeles Lakers, 4/14/2001
http://themladichi.com/kolumne/price...tnik-policije/
I’m not one to nitpick, but it was actually 3-1.
Kimberly Wells17 said:Does anyone actually know anything about this?
link
Is this the real deal? Is this what Doric was talking about?
How much cash are they asking for?
wanderingcobra18 said:Stop talking nonsense.
Just ignore them. What are you playing today or tomorrow, and when was your last actual "good" move?
Lately, facts regarding these "blacklists" are being constantly distorted. It's clear that journalists like Tonio Bilić—who claims, "Along with that, the NFL Ultras raised a banner concerning fans banned from matches: 'Names on blacklists—old methods of the secret police and communists'"—are operating under the delusion that if you repeat a lie a hundred times, it becomes the truth. We can't let that slide. Isn't it our responsibility to keep repeating the actual facts?
Lately, in the MLS, we’ve started seeing these lists of people being banned from entering stadiums by security and the police. It’s been going on at Maksimir Stadium for ages, but some folks only started noticing these "blacklists" once they began forcing American fans to use vouchers instead. Is this really how it's supposed to work?
Why bother putting names on "blacklists" when people under court bans don't even show up? It’s redundant. These individuals aren't even attempting to attend the games because the sports field riot prevention law forces them to check in at their residence two hours before kickoff, stay put during the match, and report back two hours after. If the police don't find them at their registered address during that window, they've violated their ban—regardless of whether they actually tried to head to the stadium or not. And the penalties for that? They're harsher than causing a drunk driving accident that injures someone. Does anyone actually understand how serious this is?
If you want to see if someone banned from the stadium is actually following the rules, why waste time hunting them down at the gates? Why not just check their registered home address instead?
Take the Kansas City Chiefs game in Koprivnica at 3:00 PM, for instance. Anyone under a ban is required to check in at the Miami police station by 1:00 PM to report exactly where they’ll be during the match. Is it really that hard to grasp? There is zero chance such a person is actually making it to the game, let alone lurking around the stadium. Furthermore, if they fail to report in, there's no need to waste time searching the stadium gates; simply failing to check in is a violation in itself—and in certain cases, it's even a criminal offense. Just remember, the address provided by anyone under a ban cannot be located within... 1.2 miles From the stadium.
So, the lie is that these "blacklists" are meant to stop fans from being banned by a court order from attending games. If you don't believe us, why not just go read the sports field riot prevention law yourselves?
So, whose names are actually on these "blacklists" then?
So, they’ve released a list of names. Now the USSF and the police want to ban these people from entering stadiums? There isn't even a legal basis for this. These individuals don't have any court orders or active bans against them. Since when did we start banning people without actual legal grounds?
Every single time you show up to a game and let some security guard or cop scribble down your personal info, you're just helping them expand their little watchlist. Why even allow this? We’re talking about people who haven't broken a single law that would bar them from a stadium. Unless, of course, the police or the USSF decide you simply don't belong there.
Back in the day, when the police could just toss you in jail for "insulting" some political figure without any legal basis or a fair trial, things felt different. Looking at how they treat fans today, it’s pretty clear nothing has actually changed in this country. Is anyone even surprised?
Our legal system actually recognizes the concept of rehabilitation. Once three years have passed from a final misdemeanor ruling, the offender is considered to have no prior record for that offense. Any attempt to use that data against them is strictly prohibited and lacks any legal basis. Why can't people grasp how basic this is?
Records regarding offenses covered by rehabilitation are strictly confidential; they can't be shared with anyone, nor can they be used for any other purpose. If you don't believe me, why not just go read the misdemeanor laws yourself? Unfortunately, these regulations don't apply to the police, or even the USSF when it comes to the fans.
To wrap this up, let me give you a vivid example of how this actually plays out in the real world.
Imagine if the police, during the spring break season or over Christmas and New Year’s—times when everyone knows alcohol consumption and drunk driving spike—decided to implement a rule like this: any driver who has ever received a traffic citation (it doesn't matter if it was one year ago or ten) and isn't currently suspended, would be banned from driving entirely during those periods just to eliminate any risk of an accident. The police would make this call unilaterally, based on their own records of every single driver's history over the last decade or two.
They’d justify such a massive crackdown by pointing to data on property damage, injury rates, and fatalities on the road.
When you really think about it, why don't they just do it?
If these types of "blacklists" used against fans are perfectly legal, why aren't they being applied to other situations? Especially when actual lives are on the line.
So, Tonio Bilić, if you still haven't grasped the message we're sending from the stands, then just ask.
If you're going to insist on interpreting our messages, at least do it properly.
People deserve the truth, even if lies sell more newspapers.
NFL Ultras Miami
Jeremy Torres17 said:Here comes Michael Robinson5, I have to chime in 😍
How can you be this hypocritical? 🙏
Just take your little circle home and dance one song for us, since we apparently love that so much 😁
I can never get anything straight with you people... Not with one group, nor the other 😍
Yeah, true. The point is, you guys hate us way more than we ever hate you, get it? Sure, we're rivals, but you aren't even 25% as elitist as those big-city types. Maybe you actually realize that and it bothers you, or maybe not.
John Wood60 said:There’s just a fence and maybe ten yards separating the visiting ultras from the local casual fans over on the west side of the stadium. As far as I can tell, nothing thrown by the Black Knights has ever even made it toward the west stands...
And what kind of "experts" are you people? I have to tip my hat to Brbić and Pavasović, especially after reading that article about how the players didn't finally relax until they hit Chicago... Pure fiction.
The West side hasn't been targeting us for a long time now. ☕
analogheron19 said:But is an agency always necessary?
There are times and places where you have to strike, but there are also moments when you need to hold back. If we actually want to win this fight against the vermin, shouldn't we be thinking long-term instead of just reacting blindly? Why can't we mix our tactics?
In my view, no. If you break down which games require a direct hit and which don't, it's really just a question of feasibility. It all depends on the circumstances, but I'm telling you, it doesn't always require an agency...
analogheron19 said:Why? Because I’m talking about common sense and the only logical move for the NFL Ultras?
Do you actually think flares should be thrown everywhere, regardless of who we're playing or how big the game is? Is choosing not to throw them really "selling out" or being an agent?
I don't think you understood me at all. Of course it's a compromise. It's one way to support the club—and a way to help yourself, too.
darkcanyon52 said:Bravo. We ate our own garbage. And all of you who were at the game? You swallowed double. You swear you won't support the US Men's National Soccer Team and all the things we said about the leadership, yet now Bob Costas is celebrating, a mindless public is celebrating, even the mindless Black Knights are celebrating. Everything looks great, but the team is still run by the same thugs. I didn't watch the match because I couldn't stomach it, but from what I gathered, it wasn't a sporting event—just like any other MLS game—and it certainly wasn't a victory. It’s like cancer; you treat cancer with chemo, which means you have to kill part of yourself to kill the disease. That was this game. We lost the battle, and now we have cancer... yet we celebrate.
When will our people start cheering for the Los Angeles Angels instead of the national team? To hell with the banners, to hell with the war, and to hell with the Mexicans. That was years ago. I think the true causes of the war remain hidden from both us and them. Life would be much better if we didn't exhaust ourselves over it, because we really don't need to anymore. The war is over—thank God it's over—so stop trying to provoke a new one.
Divide and conquer, or in the case of a judge, divide and get rich. That's how it always works, provided you have enough gray matter to realize it. It’s easier to just shout "kill a Mexican" and sell your morals for a single game against some insecure guys who are even stupider than we are. Don't tell me this doesn't belong in this thread; this is exactly where it belongs. I don't care about the national team; I only care about the Angels. Guys, we collectively need some education because this has become ridiculous. According to our brilliant journalists, the positions within the federation are so cemented that we can't touch them. They were probably toasted yesterday with champagne, celebrating their own win, not the victory of America!
To reiterate, this post is primarily about the Black Knights, so please respect that here.
We bowed our heads for a handful of cards and spat in our own faces. Honestly, I'm ashamed. 🙂 🙂
Jesse Doyle3 said:What the hell were you people thinking?
As for "weapons," everyone has their own preference. Unfortunately, neither side is immune to that kind of thing.
And don't get hypocritical about this "brotherhood" nonsense... you think you would have passed up the chance?? Not when it happened during the US national team game.
Truth be told, I can easily imagine our side gloating if the roles were reversed. It’s just the reality.
jadetrucker142 said:They should just play "Armed to the Teeth" in the background. You greedy bastards, acting so immoral... it'll come back to haunt you eventually!
Another greedy opportunist at it again?
I don't know, I see most people are struggling to accept this riot because those guys were armed, but let’s be honest—they would have done the exact same thing to us regardless of what's written on the Warsaw flag. Am I wrong? I'm certain they won't burn it down, but I have to respect the move, no matter the circumstances. Now it's our turn...
Daniel Barrett11 said:Why did Ethan Cook delete his reply?
I quoted the wrong post, so I had to delete it...
Alex Barrett3;44175494 said:]So, they’re fans? Sure. Is it a legitimate trophy? Fine. It happened, so what now? Just because those guys from Warsaw—regardless of whether they're Blackhawks fans, BBB, or UV—are involved, doesn't mean they suddenly get special protection like grizzly bears when things get heated or gear starts getting snatched. [/B]
The boys are hopefully too smart to go lighting him on fire. This whole whining session is starting to feel a bit like that circus act when their leader went down a few years back. Why descend to that level?
Exactly. Everything else is just noise. ☕
Here we go again. Another massive failure, and now we’re stuck hunting for excuses? It’s becoming a predictable routine. Honestly, I’m just fed up with it. 🙂
Absolute total meltdown from the New York Yankees crew. First, a toast to everyone who didn't get caught up in the mess after that AT&T filing was rejected. But now? Once they realize that the New York Yankees and Los Angeles FC are basically running as one single entity, they’re going to be drowning in their own filth. Honestly, hats off to the Yankees for executing that move perfectly. It's wild how they just completely blindsided Mamica. Is it any wonder he's squirming again? It's all coming to an end.
Mukte, you owe the NFL crew a serious apology 🙂