Not really feeling the whole "watching someone else suffer" vibe, honestly. But like Melissa Moore32 said, if a movie about heavy stuff is actually well-made, then sure, why not?
Quick question for driftingowl27. Do you personally see something special—like, better than other topics—in those depressing, heavy, dark, soul-crushing stories? Like, do you think they're somehow more valuable than the happy, light, bright, and... uh... uplifting ones? 😁 topic? (Assuming the filmmaking is just as good for both)
Whatever, did White mean it or not? Who knows... Honestly, I just found it hilarious how people let stuff like that slide, even in official press releases where you’d actually expect someone to be paying attention. (The text was basically saying... where the tilted letters were all over the place, mimicking Kubrick’s Odyssey...) Yeah, clearly they're too cheap to hire an editor. 🙂
hehe, this reminded me of something. I was reading this little booklet recently (some festival program) where some guy—maybe it was Peterlic? damn, whatever, he was a total hack—mixed up Star Wars with 2001: A Space Odyssey. You don't make mistakes like that if you actually give a damn about movies. 😛
Look, I’ve gotta agree that everyone sees a movie differently. There’s no such thing as one "correct" interpretation. Sure, maybe 90% of the critics say a movie is white, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong just because I see it as black. Those same critics will be at each other's throats over the next flick, split 50/50 on whether it's good or not. It's all just pure coincidence—basically just whether the critics happen to vibe with the director's style. It's probability, plain and simple... Once a film is finished, the director loses control. No more whining about "you guys just didn't get it!!" If a director or writer really wanted people to see things exactly their way, they should've just made it that way... okay, I'm rambling, this isn't even the main point but whatever, had to get it off my chest. 😁
Better than Harry Potter? Sure. A masterpiece? Who knows... Personally, those last ten minutes missed the mark for me. It felt like they hadn't actually built up enough ground to justify such a massive emotional outburst out of nowhere. Also, I could've done without all that extra screen time spent on those other two families... otherwise, the vibe is solid. They nailed that gritty, trashy atmosphere... honestly, watching it just feels good. Like a little pick-me-up when you're feeling down.
[ kF said:"]Anyway, it just hit me—nobody mentioned Safe room in the best cinematography category.
Yeah, true... honestly, the camera work didn't really blow me away. yeah, I get it, those few shots where the camera glides through the house are cool, but they aren't exactly "WOW." (The only thing I'd call out is how smooth the VFX was; in Fight Club, you could tell when they used animation for similar shots, but here it looks totally seamless.) Beyond that, I'd just chalk those shots up to the director and the VFX crew. Maybe I should've clarified that when I talk about "camera," I'm talking about the whole DP vibe, including the lighting and all that.
A few more things. 😁 Every single movie under consideration was playing in US theaters back in 2002—that’s the only rule I'm sticking to. Sure, Metropolis showed up at some film festival and Scream and Bindings was part of a retrospective, but let's not get all nitpicky about it. 🙂
By the way, graniteangler10, when I was first thinking about the bad guy category, my top pick was Guy Pearce. 🙂 But after mulling it over, I figured you actually need some real intent to be a true villain, so Joey takes the crown. Wouldn't say he didn't earn it.
Man, boredom really just destroys you... seriously...
Best movie ever—Memento... Hands down, the absolute worst movie ever—Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back! Best director out there—P. Jackson (LOTR)... Best original screenplay ever... Memento... The most faithful adaptation out there... just some kid, since there wasn't anything better to work with... Best actors out there—Tom Wilkinson in In the Bedroom or Hugh Grant in About a Boy... Cate Blanchett in Bandits or Nicole Kidman in The Others... both absolute legends. Best supporting actress ever... Laura Harding (or whatever her name is) in Mulholland Drive vs. Olga Pakulovic (or whoever...) in Fatale... The hottest ones? There weren't really many... but maybe Scarlett Johansson or that lead actress from Y Tu Mama Tambien... Worst acting ever—that detective in Basic Instinct... if we're talking bigger roles though, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson in The Scorpion King was a total disaster... Worst case scenarios... Jay & Silent Bob strike back and Black Hawk Down—both totally screwed up because they didn't have an actual script... Worst directing ever—Ghost World / Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back... Best Hitchcock emulation? Definitely Spielberg with Minority Report... Minority Report... Amelie... man, what a difference... The production design in Fellowship of the Ring... just wow. music... amelie (kind of) Best use of music that isn't even worth mentioning on its own: that score whenever Woody goes into action in Curse of the Jade Scorpion... overrated—it’s hit or miss: Black Hawk Down, A Quiet Place... underrated—even more so if you count: Bandits... Best scenes... that empty Times Square in Vanilla Sky, the light in The Others, and that basement in The Signs... Most intense scene... like jumping through that canyon in Spirit or running through a burning city in Sum of All Fears... Why, oh why?!?!?!? – the "humor" in Jay and Silent Bob... Best ending—The Others or Memento (not even because of the wife, just because that guy killed way too many people already...) Worst ending ever—In the Bedroom (WHICH ending even???) runner up: Gone Girl. (It’s basically just an epilogue, but since it’s at the end, I guess it counts as the ending... totally useless, yuck!) Just using the song... since there wasn't anything better to work with, it's that thing at the end of Metropolis... Worst song usage ever... Brothers in Arms in Spy Game... seriously? damn... beavers and ducks! (bandits) Best trailers—Vanilla Sky / Minority Report... Worst trailer ever—ants in my pants... Best movie intro... Memento... A pleasant surprise—about some kid, and some dead girls... Total curveball... Jay and Silent Bob strike back / Black Hawk Down. Total mindfuck scenes that exist just to be there, only to get ignored or left hanging later on... sucks. Best action scenes... that Moria mine entrance in LOTR / the chaos at the gates in Monsters, Inc. Worst action scenes ever... that final showdown in The Scorpion King, and that fight at the end of Spider-Man... ugh. Best bad guy? Joey Pantoliano in Memento... maybe. Guy Pearce was such a huge standout in Memento... that big blue guy in Monsters, Inc. was killer too. Best supporting character of the year: that technician in Memento bad movie... Biggest cliché... anything from Showtime or Collateral Damage... Total waste of potential... Sum of All Fears was such a rip-off... Best fight scene? That first quick scrap in Bourne Identity... hands down. One of the better jokes—spitting in Memento, plus that "don't answer the phone" bit in Memento... Best part was that white glow when Arwen shows up in the frame... that whole ring effect in the shot... The movie with the most terrifying scene/image... The Others. Best soundtrack? Probably Black Hawk Down... Best Badalament composed track of the year: Fine Dead Girls... Best visual effects overall... Attack of the Clones. Worst visual effects ever... like those explosions in Collateral Damage... total garbage... Best short shot ever—that soldier getting swallowed by the sandstorm in Black Hawk Down... Worst dialogue ever... Scorpion King and Final Fantasy were absolute trash... Best newcomer... Naomi Watts or Laura Harding, depending on which one counts more as a rookie... The annual award for best bust goes to Thora Birch in Ghost World... hands down. Most annoying character ever—Jay in Jay and Silent Bob / that guy with the keys in E.T.... Cutest thing on this side of Pecos - Boo! (Monsters, Inc.) Best lesbian scene ever—Mulholland Drive. Honestly, probably the best sex scene of the whole year... Best feel-good flick of the year—All or Nothing The best part/vibe of the movie? Honestly, just all the different ideas it throws at you... more than one message, really
hey man, you saying you're stuck in the same mess too? 😁 gotta be honest, your comment totally flew over my head since I have no clue what "forza chiare" even means... but if you're looking to play pretend, go ahead, maybe I'll put you down for an audition?😉
Sorry mods if this isn't allowed, but I gotta get this out there:
If anyone reading this wants to act in an amateur (college-level, if you want to call it that) film, shoot me a DM so we can set up auditions.
Just a heads up, there’s basically zero budget for this, so it’s all volunteer work. There are plenty of roles for guys and girls, so the only real limit is age—looking for people between 19 and maybe 27.
coastalorca3 said:What a joke—people standing in line waiting through twenty boring commercials. IN LINE! Reminds me of some concert camp where people are so used to garbage they actually cry when they get another serving—because they don't even know anything good exists anymore.
The other day *Barbarella* was on TV. *That's* a movie. Forget the silly plot, that film is basically medicine for your eyes. Not this pile of CGI blockbuster "modern" trash you guys are all waiting in line for.
IN LINE you might wait for, maybe, ONE MOVIE. Hey there, Mr. Consumer (is that a good enough title? should I widen my pants?). In this new era of Hollywood backed by American theaters, movies like that just don't exist anymore.
Without getting into whether people on this thread actually love commercial crap, give me a few more films that aren't total commercial garbage in your opinion. From different eras, even the nineties... Are you saying (basically) that none of the movies mentioned here have any value, that it's all commercial trash, etc.? If there happens to be a movie from the list that you don't think is such garbage, please let us know...
Melissa Moore32, nice of you to nitpick my spelling. Honestly, I gotta thank you though, because if you hadn't called me out, I would've gone to my grave thinking I wrote anime instead of anima... yeah, people mess up, whether it's typos or just brain farts. Anyway, looks like you're a total anime fanatic, hit me with some recs (movies, NOT series) so I can grab them online... (already seen Ghost in the Shell, Akira, and a good chunk of Miyazaki's stuff) thanks.
Also, you're probably right about how they couldn't film Battle Angel Alita... got any ideas on what other anime material Cameron might actually take on? (thinking about starting a petition and organizing a protest outside Lightstorm Entertainment headquarters...)
Here’s a thread where you can vent and unload whatever's weighing on your soul. I'll kick things off...
When is Cameron actually gonna drop a new movie??? I mean, sure, he’s always been one of those slower directors—usually taking like 2-3 years per flick—but that was always just because he loves dragging out production. This current situation is different and totally unacceptable. The guy hasn't even STARTED working on a single film in 5 years. A full FIVE years! One day he's claiming he's slammed with other projects, the next he's making documentaries or producing TV shows, but I want a full-length feature!!! First, it looked like he might shoot Spider-Man (not that I thought that was a great idea anyway), then True Lies 2 (which he recently confirmed once and for all isn't happening—whatever, maybe better not to waste time on sequels), and as for Avatar, I doubt it'll ever get its act together with a real script.... then lately there was talk about him buying rights to various anime series.... Battle Angel Alita was mentioned, but again, nothing. Knowing how long it takes him to shoot something, even if he announces he has a finished script TOMORROW, we won't see a movie in theaters before Christmas 2025 at the EARLIEST. His last move is talking up in interviews about developing new tech for his next films... give me a break... just a bunch of fluff, man, just FILM something!!! grrrrr !!!
vrazicko - Event Horizon 2 isn't happening. I don't know what trash tabloid you're reading, but that's just straight up fake news. There aren't even talks about a sequel right now, and honestly, I doubt it'll ever happen...
Anyway, regarding movies hitting theaters in the US during 2003, here’s a quick list, no particular order.
Solaris, Spirited Away (since we'd probably only get the US dubbed version anyway, the English title works fine, right? hehe) The Matrix Reloaded, The Two Towers, Bowling for Columbine, Catch Me If You Can, Punch-Drunk Love, Adaptation,
Hmm... yeah, that's basically it. Sad but true. There would be way more if I didn't stick strictly to 2003... but it is what it is.
Just trying to help out guys like PBE, answering (or attempting to answer) some stuff here
1. Probably Lumiere's brother 2. Groucho Marx, Chico, Harpo Marx, Gummo, and Zeppo Marx 3. 4. Joseph Bell 5. 6. A baseball bat, I think... 7. 8. 9. 10. She was in Lola the Racer, and also played that med student in 'Anatomy' at a medical school in Heidelberg 11. 10 bucks 12. 13. Hmm, maybe Yul Brynner. He's from Russia... 14. 15. 16. Probably from Australia. But born in the US. 17. Pretty sure some careless extra actually got run over by a car... 18. 19. Not even one 20. 21. Steve Buscemi 22. Beethoven 23. 24. 25. Miloš Forman, so back then, Czechoslovakia 26. Vivien Leigh 27. 28. India and... hmm... let's go with the USA. 29. Anna Karenina jumped under a train and Vronsky, uh, I dunno, can't remember. 30. 31. Cactus Jack 32. 33. 34. Let's say chess 35. Guessing Mexican... 36. Gonna say something stupid (seriously) and guess 7 37. 38. 39. Turkey 40. 41. Connery, I think 42. 43. Eight 44. 45. This is asking for the movie title, right? I know the movie, just can't recall the name. That one with Tracy Ullman, where she wants to kill her husband (played by Kline, he's Italian in the film) so she hires Reeves and, I think, Hurts, who are all stoners to do the deed... 46. Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton 47. I know this one, but I ain't telling you. 🙂 48. 49. Sean Connery 50.
Before I dive into this thread, just gotta say again that > is a freaking masterpiece of animation. Also, > is way better than the original, and > is easily one of the best Western animated flicks out there. I’ll skip the fantasy stuff since that’s all just subjective taste anyway...
Alright, fine. I’ve seen all three. Only saw > on some tiny little airplane screen, so maybe that messed with my head a bit... Out of those three, > was clearly trying to be the most revolutionary... or at least the weirdest. And while the movie has some GREAT individual jokes, as a whole? Not so much. Honestly, > feels more like a spoof comedy than anything else. You're basically just waiting for the next gag every few seconds, while the plot, drama, and actual emotions just get sidelined. It feels like the story is just there to hold the jokes together.
Now, >—even if the humor isn't quite hitting the same highs as >—it doesn't fall short when you need a real laugh. But honestly, that’s its only "flaw." The writers actually cared about the story, and the movie would still work even without half the jokes. Maybe it doesn't balance the sentimental stuff as perfectly as >, but the overall rating is way higher than >. To put it simply: unlike >, > is an actual movie where scenes have a purpose and flow together, taking you from a thriller moment straight into drama, all in service of the plot.
As for >, the animation can't quite compete with > or > (though the character design makes up for it), but it holds its own when it comes to the story. Sure, it’s the biggest cliché of the bunch, but it’s done well enough. The characters are solid and pretty engaging. It’s definitely more "cinematic" than >, even if it lacks the laughs, though it does have a few brilliant gags.
Final verdict: > takes the top spot, with > and > fighting for second.
Oh, and before anyone starts complaining... yeah, this is just my opinion. I’m not forcing it on anyone. Taste plays a huge part in everything, no matter what aspect of a movie you're looking at.