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Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters in Fans ·
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Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters in Fans ·
neonhawk15 said:Just to add my two cents here... I really don't think we should be grouping a relationship with Microsoft in the same category as our bond with NAB. Look, I have nothing against Microsoft personally—I don't know them or anyone at NAB myself—but in my view, having that kind of connection with NAB is on a completely different level than just being "in the same neighborhood." And let's face it, having that shared ground is basically a prerequisite for any group looking to establish contact these days.

What you wrote there holds water. 👍

neonhawk15 said:All this talk about how we constantly need to display Portuguese, French, or Tahitian flags on the fence feels totally misplaced to me.

Nobody is actually suggesting we need to wave their damn flag at every single freaking game, but it would be fine if we at least had one in our arsenal. You know, like how all those various banners and two-pole flags pop up here and there whenever some guy decides to show up in the North Stand or at an away game. Obviously, I'm not talking about that weird, half-gay Mexican-Greek nonsense, just a decent, normal flag representing their side and ours, simple as that.

neonhawk15 said:A message should have been posted for those lost at NAB, but since it was just a random oversight, I'll say it again: there’s no point in making a massive scene over it.

Fair enough.
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Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters in Fans ·
Scott Gomez5 said:Look, I get what you're saying about the message, I really do. But is it actually impossible to just hang that banner with both our crests on the fence? It’s been fifteen matches now. Last time I saw that thing up there, even an unnamed person was still around.

If my memory serves me right, those guys from the local supporters club were the ones who brought it in back then.🤷

I mean, I don't think anyone's questioning the friendship itself, but it wouldn't hurt—wouldn't cost us anything—to have some kind of banner or a two-pole flag out there. Then again, I highly doubt someone's just going to step up and make one on their own initiative. That kind of call has to come from the top of the group, you know?😉

Personally, I find the whole thing kind of charming. It isn't one of those trendy, superficial friendships you see popping up all over Europe just for show; this has actual roots. Even if they are tragic roots, I suppose.😢

And if certain people are still pushing for it, well, there's no argument there...

Twente vs Benfica, August 16, 2011

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Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters in Fans ·
Kimberly Robinson17 said:It’s such a damn shame nobody actually learned their lesson from those three Benefic fans who lost their lives.

What a waste... a total missed opportunity.😢
New fan legislation in Fans ·
Adam Williams2 said:I guess I didn't realize 🙂
But you really have to keep showing up, you know? Like how people are always pushing back against smoking bans, you have to do the same thing with this Sports Fan Law. Maybe just show up on every other talk show, but keep it classy and make sure the arguments actually make sense 😁
That’s really it—just try to get on every single program 👍

There’s zero chance of that happening while public opinion still views fans as nothing more than total idiots and savages. And honestly? Most of that is on the media—though, if I'm being real, we carry a chunk of the blame ourselves too.

The shows themselves have been—and will continue to be—designed specifically to go against the fans. Just look at that recent segment on PBS. It was basically "one guy against everyone else," where four out of the five people on screen had absolutely no clue what they were talking about, and the fifth one was just some robotic police officer following a script.

Does anyone actually know if that last Ultras humanitarian drive (for the victims in a local town) was even mentioned in any major news outlet? Aside from the local stuff in the southern cities? Maybe it was, but I certainly didn't see it anywhere else... 🤷

ps. Regarding that PBS show, props to you for sticking to your guns, but it would have helped if they gave you a little more airtime or, you know, someone actually on your side—someone who was sane and actually understood the subject matter. 👍