2014 Super Bowl
in Formula 1 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Should I mention that the group winners are basically just local legends at Kimijevac? 😁
Haha, I didn't even notice.
Ah, right. Nothing surprising there. 😍
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graniteharbor502 said:Should I mention that the group winners are basically just local legends at Kimijevac? 😁
ruggedhawk20 said:Since you asked, I’ll give you an answer.
No. I’m not one of those people shouting from the bleachers or throwing snacks onto the field.
I don't watch football at all. In my entire life, I’ve never even been to a game. I don’t even know if a football team has ten or eleven players.
Football holds zero interest for me. It’s a sport for the common man. For the masses. For both the spiritually and materially impoverished. For those I charitably refer to as the unwashed.
To me, football is like burnt soup or living on credit. I am an aristocrat; I have no need for burnt soup, nor credit... nor football.
But I see what you’re implying. No. I am not a racist. I firmly believe that all people are equally valuable, and I never make distinctions based on skin color. To me, a person's complexion is entirely irrelevant. We are all equal.
However, I do see differences between people, but they have nothing to do with skin color. I see the difference in poverty—specifically spiritual poverty, which manifests as a lack of education, narrow-mindedness, following dogma, or believing in luck and superstitions.
I believe in science and anything that can be proven empirically. Luck is not a scientific category. Claiming Rosberg has a massive points lead because he's "lucky" is nonsense. Rosberg has a large lead because he is the better driver—a more complete driver. His points prove that. Lewis, on the other hand, is the faster driver—significantly faster—which his pole positions and wins demonstrate. But in the end, the points are what count. So, Rosberg is the better driver, while Lewis is simply faster.
Alain Prost was the better driver; Ayrton Senna was the faster one. When they were teammates, Prost always walked away with more points than Senna. If the 2014 rules applied back in 1988—where not every point counted toward the championship—Lewis would have a better chance. Under today's rules, where every single point matters, every time Lewis scores a zero, it goes directly to Rosberg.
And Rosberg knows this; he plays that card because he is smart. He knows he is slower, and he knows if he tries to outrun Lewis on pure speed, he will lose. So, he plays the reliability card.
Unlike Lewis, Rosberg is more calculated, more thorough, and more intellectually grounded. Rosberg's father is a legend of motorsport and a world champion. Lewis's father is a legend of the third shift. It’s obvious that Rosberg's father could provide his son with a higher quality of upbringing and psychological maturity.
And none of this has anything to do with skin color; it’s about approach to life. Some people live beyond their means and neglect a child's proper education and development in pursuit of elite athletic results. Others balance sports with education. Rosberg balanced them well. Lewis's father failed to find that balance. And now we have an unbalanced, poorly educated Lewis prone to incidents—both on the track and off.

Jason Campbell70 said:You started talking about how the car was "built specifically for Alonso."
Now you're hinting at that again.
Feel free to explain why you think the car favors Alonso over Raikkonen.
What's stopping you?
What's the issue?
Jason Campbell70 said:Gladly, but I have nothing more to say.
You started talking about "a car built specifically for Alonso."
Fine then—define "a car built specifically for Alonso."
I certainly hope you didn't just throw that out there without having any actual arguments to back it up.
Jason Campbell70 said:You think you can provide a rational, reasoned response?
I'll say it again—"define what it means to build a car specifically for Alonso."
Give me a legitimate, logical argument.
Lay out the facts and shut me down.
Overwhelm me with logic.
Go ahead, hit me with your questions... tear my argument apart.
Let's see if you can actually dismantle this.
Come on then, show me you can take a living person down with your reasoning.
Jason Campbell70 said:Finally, you caught on. Cheers.
It’s true, as you noted—even after I spent six turns explaining it... but cheers.
Define what you mean by "a car built specifically for Alonso."
Jason Campbell70 said:And how exactly does that data help that Finnish fraud avoid getting absolutely slapped by the Maestro six races in a row?
Oh, please. They don't.
dustycyclist19 said:Alonso keeps dealing with constant car issues too.
Right behind😂😂
61-17😂 right behind😂
dustycyclist19 said:We all know that. But do you realize the Maestro beats that talented driver nearly 4 to 1 while driving the exact same car?😁
steelmaker83 said:It’s not about being cheap, 😁 and I don't even want to get into that... just let them have something to celebrate; you can tell they need it. It hasn't been easy for them...
For the most part, the start and the restart (that jump on Daniel Ricciardo) were excellent. Everything else...
dustycyclist19 said:Formula 1 isn't really your scene.🙄
I know Kimi is your favorite, but you have to face the facts: he got absolutely hammered out there. It’s clear even his stomach couldn't handle the intensity of that race. 😂
maminho said:I have no idea why you feel the need to spam this thread 🤷
Jason Campbell70 said:An internal team battle?
1. Nico Rosberg 122
2. Lewis Hamilton 118
3. Fernando Alonso 61
4. Daniel Ricciardo 54
5. Nico Hulkenberg 47
6. Sebastian Vettel 45
7. Valtteri Bottas 34
8. Jenson Button 31
9. Kevin Magnussen 21
10. Sergio Perez 20
20 Ae.
graniteharbor502 said:Way too low? If you're just looking at points, sure, I agree. But if you look at what actually happened on track, things look quite different.
At the Australian Grand Prix, according to Pat Fry, I wouldn't say he underperformed: "On both the F14 Ts, we had some electrical problems, especially on Kimi's car, which meant he couldn't use all the car's potential."
In Malaysia, during the second lap, Kimi was right behind Alonso when Magnussen punctured his tire. Kimi somehow limped back to the pits, but he damaged the floor in the process.
At the Bahrain Grand Prix, there was an unnecessary pit call to change tires that were only seven laps old (the harder compound for that race) using already used rubber. He still managed to finish just behind Alonso. Does that mean Alonso also performed way too low in that race?
For China, let's ignore the car issues that limited him to just an installation lap in P1 and claim he underperformed there.
At the Spanish Grand Prix, Kimi Raikkonen was faster than Alonso in qualifying (and Ted Kravitz showed that document where the FIA warned Ferrari after qualifying to align the Spanish driver's power unit with the rules), and he was ahead in the race too, while the team failed twice to show which driver they were favoring through strategy. Despite being on the less favorable strategy, Kimi finished just one spot behind Alonso. So, did Alonso perform way too low in that race as well?
And finally, the Monaco Grand Prix, should I mention what happened regarding the order after the first (and only, for most drivers) pit stops. And what occurs: Max Chilton hits a curb behind the safety car and punctures Kimi's tire:
A moment of wisdom.
graniteharbor502 said:Way too little? If you're just looking at points, sure, I agree. But if you look at what actually happened on track, the story changes completely.
At the Australian Grand Prix, according to Pat Fry, it wasn't exactly a failure: "On both the F14 Ts, we had some electrical problems, especially on Kimi’s car, which meant he couldn’t use all the car’s potential."
In the Malaysian Grand Prix, Kimi was right behind Alonso in the second lap before Magnussen punctured his tire. Kimi somehow limped back to the pits, but he damaged the floor in the process.
At the Bahrain Grand Prix, there was an unnecessary pit call to swap to tires that were only seven laps old (the harder compound for that race) using already used rubber. Even then, he managed to finish just behind Alonso. Does that mean Alonso also performed way too little in that race?
Regarding the Chinese Grand Prix, let's ignore the car issues that meant he only completed an installation lap in P1 and say he failed that race.
At the Spanish Grand Prix, Kimi Räikkönen was faster than Alonso in qualifying (and Ted Kravitz showed that document where the FIA warned Ferrari after qualifying to align the Spanish driver's power unit with the regulations), and he was ahead in the race too, while the team failed twice to show which driver they were favoring through strategy. Despite being on the less favorable strategy, Kimi finished just one spot behind Alonso. So, did Alonso perform way too little there as well?
And finally, the Monaco Grand Prix. Do we even need to mention the order after the first (and for most, only) round of pit stops? And what happens: Max Chilton charges up behind the safety car mid-corner and punctures Kimi's tire:
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darkmarlin16 said:
It would have been better if they had picked him over Kimi Räikkönen at Ferrari.
neonfox65 said:Kimi mastered the car; he was only beaten by someone better. ☕ 👋
ruggedfox28 said:just let him be... he’s clearly talking nonsense. If you look at any decent American media outlets or just listen to anyone with actual sense on the forums, the consensus is clear: Obrvan drove a subpar race, yet still managed to scrape a solid 4th place. It's the same old story for him—just scavenging the track and opportunistically capitalizing on other people's misfortunes (or let's be honest, their mistakes)
He's blinded by bias... maybe even more than his mother, which explains this post.
..and that really highlights the shallow nature of Obrvan's fans. They accuse all the Kimi Räikkönen fans of grasping at straws, failing to realize they are doing the exact same thing with Obrvan. They cling to internal team battles that are completely irrelevant to the global championship standings, but for them, it's the only source of joy left... because, frankly, there isn't much else to celebrate.🤣
dustycyclist19 Asks:
Listen, let me set the record straight: neither of the two examples you mentioned involve a collision between cars of the same model.🤣
Then Daniel Ricciardo would need 34 championship titles.🤷