That’s exactly what I was just thinking—he was visible in the arena for a little while, but then he vanished almost immediately... honestly, it was pretty jarring.
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Andrew White32 said:From what I gather, one of those banners lit up in the East—one of the Navy's—and ended up being confiscated during a Cleveland away game out in the Midwest.
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1.Let’s be completely objective here... that disorganized group without any sense of honor snatched three of your flags and left you with nothing but some tiny trinkets—even though they could have easily taken everything.
2.I mean, I can hardly believe this. Seriously, how did this even happen? What exactly are you guys bragging about?
I’m not going to sit here and comment on things I didn't actually witness—that wouldn't be fair—but if you’re honestly claiming you were standing right in front of our section during that big rivalry game back on November 2nd, 2002... well, even a toddler could see through that one.
So, you're really going to brag about those half-baked banners from the California coast? Honestly—if that's your idea of a statement—it just makes me think you're nothing more than a common provocateur rather than a serious ultra. It seems like people have been breaking into homes in places like Cleveland or even out on Martha's Vineyard—all because someone decided to swipe stuff from the Forza Fiume offices. And then, to top it all off, they take photos of the protest signs from four different angles—which, let’s be honest, is usually just a total load of crap.
I was merely responding to your claim that the Torcida fans were left stranded in the stands—which, frankly, isn't true at all (even if you count just tearing down a fence as being "stuck").
Come on now, Crimson Tide fans, don't get all worked up.😍
Andrew White32 said:And while you're at it, could you please clarify who those thirty or so SWAT officers actually are—are we talking about the ones in the blue gear or the red?
It gets even better—did it seriously look like they were actually chasing you guys down?🤷
Just a stupid little squabble, really—the Armada rushed onto the field right in front of the Torcida fans, but they didn't actually accomplish anything. A few Torcida guys were banging on the fences, and honestly, if anyone had tried a solo charge onto the pitch, things probably wouldn't have ended well for them—though maybe there were more than just a couple of them out there, who knows? Just the usual chaos...
I mean, you can clearly see at least 300 Armada members out there in one of the photos. So, what exactly did they accomplish? Did they manage to take down a single local beat cop? I don't know—do you just not see the massive crowd draped over the fence? Can you not see the barbed wire? Where even is the fan club? Maybe they'll show up later during the Fourth of July parade while they're making a run for it.
Seattle Sounders vs. LA Galaxy 2-1, December 13, 1998
"It’s getting intense—the Seattle fans are closing in on the goal, right near the section where the local ultras are fuming. Suddenly, about ten of them storm the pitch to clash with the traveling supporters from LA. Meanwhile, the rest of the home crowd is practically kicking and punching at the perimeter fence, trying to tear the whole thing down (it's actually easier for the LA crew to jump the field since their section doesn't have that heavy-duty barbed wire blocking the East Stand). Eventually, about 30 riot police show up and force the LA group back toward the stands. About 15 minutes after the final whistle, almost everyone has cleared out of the stadium, except for the locals who are still waiting for security to let them leave. At one point, one guy leaps over the fence and sprints toward the West Stand, where the LA fans snatch two banners off the railing, before he turns around and hurls them back toward the East side..."
...and in one of those entries, they actually stripped you of two transparencies—apparently, because you weren't placing them over the center point before now.😍
What a load of nonsense... On November 2, 2002, maybe five or ten people rushed the pitch, and they did it individually. There’s actually footage from that round of the MLS match. That last photo isn't even from the big rivalry game—you can clearly see the graveyard behind the supporters' section, and back then, you guys didn't have banners hanging off the fences. In 2002, there were clashes with the police on both sides of the stadium; we were busy holding up your four banners while the cops tried to snatch them back, but honestly, there weren't any massive pitch invasions...
As for '98, I can't really weigh in because I wasn't even there.
An absolutely phenomenal film! I mean, there are certain parts that aren't exactly handled perfectly—Mary Stewart is just painfully pathetic in some scenes, I guess—but everything else was truly excellent. Especially the depiction of the Spanish court during that era.