It’s actually quite interesting how nobody brought up the issue of unauthorized filming while everyone was at Palm Springs. I suppose that particular gathering was just universally unpleasant for everyone involved.
Well, when the authorities fail to step up, I suppose I’m just advocating for minor infractions to prevent a much larger catastrophe. Is there anything else we need to cover?
So, I already said it—you report it, and if you see that the authorities aren't doing anything about it, you start taking pictures. In that case, you go (i) through media pressure. It’s basically the standard operating procedure when you're dealing with a broken system like ours.
You're off base because we're talking about a gathering of five people, whereas a church service could theoretically draw a crowd of a thousand since it's considered a public demonstration. The risk profiles aren't even in the same universe.
So, either you're being too dense to see the distinction, or you're just trolling—there isn't really a third option here. It’s likely the latter, which is incredibly grating.
It would be the exact same logic if your friend announced he was throwing a massive rager at the local Factory tomorrow and anyone could show up. In that scenario, wouldn't you feel obligated to report it and snap some photos if nobody else seemed to care? Because in this specific context, there's a much higher level of public interest involved.
Paul Martinez73 said:Someone please drop a link to the specific law where that slogan is banned, thanks. ☕ From what I can tell, that emblem belongs to a military unit that isn't actually outlawed. If anyone here actually knows of a rule preventing someone from taking a photo like that, let us know.
Well, look, even if I were to strip away three-quarters of my brain and accept your premise—that ZDS and the white field have absolutely nothing to do with the Nazis—I could only bow to the stinginess of Jesus's teachings when seeing someone proudly posing with the symbols of a certain military unit on the holiest of Christian holidays.
It is precisely this dissonance, this gap between the true message of the Gospel and the ethno-nationalist caricature of religion being peddled by the loudest voices in the clergy, that makes much of this whole spectacle so repulsive to me. Aside from a few exceptions, of course.
Well, it looks like our unshakable priest (I assume that’s who he is) has gone and posed with those old-school slogans after all. Why am I not surprised? 🤣
It’s pretty obvious the Holy Spirit descended upon him.
It seems like you and restlesssurfer97 are the only ones obsessed with this, bringing it up maybe twenty times in the last five pages alone. Honestly, I think they're just idiots—kind of like that guy we saw over at Evian. But I suppose you can't hold a decent debate without relying on a strawman, can you?
Most of the church establishment and the actual believers follow the rules and act appropriately. It's just that certain idiots don't. And those idiots need to be called out right now, especially given how things stand. Period.
darkseal9 said:Since you brought up America, I guess we really don't have anything in common. I'll just head out, see where this goes. Moses, you can try to play yourself all you want, but honestly? If you had ever truly expressed your faith or offered up a sincere prayer with a peaceful soul, you'd realize how much you're missing by looking at your life—and ours—through such a narrow lens.
I am not actually mocking you here; rather, I find it difficult to understand why you feel entitled to lecture anyone on what experiences are like in America. Whether it’s inside a church or out on the street, it doesn't matter. It never occurs to me to try and instruct you on the legal norms or social customs of Canada—simply because I don't know them.
As far as experience goes, I spent eight years as an altar server, starting back during the tail end of the old communist era. But then again, I'm just a simple American; back in the nineties, I was often overlooked by many.
restlesssurfer97 said:Honestly, any kind of discrimination is just discrimination, period. It actually creeps me out a bit that you're being so intentional about it.
It happens every single day. However, I try to stick to what actually matters. In other words, I aim for my distinctions to be based on objective reality rather than just some personal fantasy.
Paul Martinez73 said:Just like you base yours, isn't it... 🤷
My take is that she was just looking to cause a scene, from what she was wearing to her behavior and that aggressive way she forced her way into the Cathedral. I honestly don't know what was going through her head, but that’s just how it came across to me...
But at the end of the day, my take is that the job wasn't handled professionally or even logically... and I’m hoping you and I can at least agree on that.
So, we can all just agree that her smashing that phone was completely unnecessary...
We can all agree that it wasn't exactly fifteen people falling to the floor just so someone could call out everyone who was there merely to say a prayer and listen to Mass...
So you've got this journalist who basically phoned in her entire job like a complete amateur, and then there's the guy who smashed her phone. He's actually being reasonable about it, while she just plays the victim to grab her few minutes of fame...
You all insist that she intended to do it, whereas I maintain that it remains entirely uncertain. Honestly, shouldn't it be obvious to even the most simple-minded person who carries the burden of proof for their own claims?
restlesssurfer97 said:You're straight up discriminating based on where someone lives, so please, just stay classy here.
When we're discussing the customs and laws of America, of course I’m going to look at things through a geographic lens. Are you not? If you aren't, then more power to you.
I’m not here to cause unnecessary drama; I am simply pointing out that this entire discussion seems to be built upon the unproven assumption that the journalist wasn't merely trying to capture the reality of the Mass, but was actually hunting for a confrontation.
darkseal9 said:Clearly you've never been to a mass before. Let's go RDET Koncar el, did a donkey jump through the window or what?
No, I clearly haven't, but since you're clearly an expert from Canada, perhaps you could enlighten me? Please, by all means, I am eagerly awaiting your lecture.
Look, you and restlesssurfer9 both know she was just fishing for a 🙏
She wants the drama, and honestly, so do all those people taking photos out at Central Park—just a bunch of masochists waiting for a confrontation so Babic can push them even further $67. But they didn't get as lucky as this 🙏
Look, she didn't just barge into someone's private living room; she entered a space where anyone is permitted to be at that hour.
"You're intruding on people" 🙏
And if she was able to walk in, then a hundred other people could have just as easily done the same. It’s a good thing they have more common sense than this fool, who probably would have dropped dead if it weren't for holding Mass.