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Grand Prix of Mexico City (Indianapolis Motor Speedway) | November 5-7, 2021

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Participants Gregory Brown94Raymond Anderson4graniteharbor502Timothy Castillo6Sam Clark75wiredseal7fadedwalker18frozenheron7Ashley Ramirez4stormybadger8Amy Castillo4Jack Kelly5Linda Peterson43Amanda KellyJames Harris34James Kern6Karen Gomez55Susan Jones8Elizabeth MendozaJason Campbell70Susan Davis7ruggedhawk20Jacob Castillo70hiddenmoose2 …
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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#41 ·
stormybadger8 said:I honestly don't know what you people are watching or why you're even tuning in 🤔
It’s a total mess from Toto Wolff and the rest of the Lewis Hamilton crew 🤣 ...

Lewis Hamilton (maxf1.net):
“I think I’m mentally stronger than I’ve ever been,” said Hamilton, now in his 15th season of Formula 1.
“And I think that's a huge part of the whole story. I feel like I've been mentally tougher for a long time, but I've become even more resilient.”

There you have it. Lewis is better than he's ever been. Which means the car is the problem.
Sam Clark75 Sam Clark75 Active Member
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#42 ·
Roger Wright94 said:Lewis Hamilton (maxf1.net):
"I think I'm mentally stronger than I've ever been," added Hamilton, who is now in his 15th season of Formula 1.
"And I think that's a huge part of the whole story. I feel like I've been mentally much stronger for a long time, but I've become even tougher."

So, Lewis is better than ever—which means it's gotta be the car.

That "stronger than ever" line sounds like pure wishful thinking to me. Sure, he can claim he's mentally tougher—maybe he actually is—but it doesn't change the fact that his recent seasons have been filled with total amateur mistakes. I mean, you've got him hitting the wrong button at the start, then there's that time he was basically out on his own on the grid because he didn't swap tires, and don't even get me started on him slamming into the wall entering the pits. Those are just the first three that pop into my head.

But hey, if he's mentally tough, at least losing won't sting as much. Plus, it'll give him plenty of material for those motivational posts on Instagram. 🤣
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#43 ·
John Coltrane As I was contemplating the matter, it occurred to me that one might ask...
I cannot help but wonder, what might have been if Daniel Ricciardo had actually remained at Red Bull Racing? It is one of those lingering, quiet questions that settles in the mind during the long stretches between races, isn't it? One finds oneself tracing the divergent paths of careers, contemplating how a single decision or a sudden change in momentum can alter the entire trajectory of a driver's legacy within the sport. If he had stayed put, would we be looking at a completely different dynamic within the garage today? It is a fascinating, if somewhat melancholy, thought to dwell upon.

It seems that Daniel Ricciardo has made his exit from Red Bull Racing, having realized there was simply nothing left for him to achieve while staring at the back of Max Verstappen's car in an identical machine. One cannot help but wonder if this cycle was inevitable, much like the departures we witnessed with Daniil Kvyat, Pierre Gasly, and Alexander Albon? It appears, however, that Daniel Ricciardo possessed the distinct advantage of leveraging his significant reputation to secure a seat with another team. Looking back at his final season driving for Red Bull Racing, he finished a staggering 79 points behind Max Verstappen; does that gap not tell the entire story of his struggle to find footing within that lineup?

Roger Wright94 said:Lewis Hamiltonmaxf1.net):
"I truly believe I am mentally tougher than I have ever been," remarked Lewis Hamilton, who is now navigating his fifteenth season in Formula 1.
I often find myself reflecting on how much of this journey boils down to that single realization. It seems to me that while I have felt mentally resilient for quite some time now, there has been a profound shift recently—a sense that I have become even more unshakable than before. Is it possible that true strength isn't just about reaching a certain level of fortitude, but rather about the continuous, quiet process of hardening one's resolve against the world? I truly believe that is where the heart of the matter lies.

It appears that Lewis Hamilton is performing better now than he ever has before, which leads one to wonder if the true catalyst here is actually the car itself?

Does anyone happen to have a direct link to the original statement? 😁

Sam Clark75 said:When he claims to be "stronger than ever," one can't help but wonder if it isn't merely a bit of wishful thinking on his part? He might very well mean that he is mentally more resilient than he has ever been—and perhaps that is true—but we cannot simply ignore the reality that his recent seasons have been plagued by what can only be described as amateurish blunders. Is it not true that we have seen him press the wrong button at the start of a race, or perhaps that moment where he found himself isolated on the grid because he opted not to change tires? And then, of course, there was that instance where he charged straight into the wall while entering the pits. Those are just the first three mistakes that immediately come to mind when one reflects on his performance.

If he can just cultivate some genuine mental toughness, perhaps the sting of defeat won't feel quite so heavy. Wouldn't that also provide him with the perfect material for those little motivational posts people love to share on Instagram? 🤣

I fear you have overlooked this absolute little gem—a true masterclass in navigating the wet track.
Sam Clark75 Sam Clark75 Active Member
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#44 ·
graniteharbor502 said:You totally missed this absolute gem—his masterclass driving through the rain.

Haha, true. Thanks for the reminder—that one might actually be the best one on the list.
Sam Clark75 Sam Clark75 Active Member
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#45 ·
frozenheron7 said:Man, he’d absolutely smoke Max—no doubt about it. And by extension, the whole damn grid, since he’d be sitting pretty at the top of the standings.

Look, I love Daniel Ricciardo, really, but I love the truth more—and the truth is his prime is long gone. Between that rough last year at Red Bull Racing, those two mediocre seasons at Renault, and this shaky start at McLaren... yeah, he might grab a podium here or there, maybe even a win that makes everyone go wild. I’ll be the first one to 🎉, but let's be real—Lando is just driving circles around him.
Gregory Brown94 Gregory Brown94 Active MemberOP
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#46 ·
Everyone seems to have forgotten just how much Daniel Ricciardo struggled with the car's handling. It was absolute rock bottom for Red Bull Racing and Renault. You can't really expect anyone to stay mentally steady under those kinds of conditions. That 2018 season isn't some fair benchmark when you compare the battle between Max Verstappen and Daniel Ricciardo.

By the way, they cleared out two rows of construction barriers over at Terminal 1.
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
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#47 ·
Based on everything being said lately, it’s pretty obvious that Max has gotten into Lewis Hamilton's head, and now he's just stuck in this massive ego trip mode.

It’s become clear even to someone who isn't paying attention, especially after he bragged about how he was already a champion by the time he was Max Verstappen's age. 😬
Sam Clark75 Sam Clark75 Active Member
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#48 ·
Got a link for that statement? I totally missed what he actually said.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#49 ·
Roger Wright94 said:Lewis Hamilton (maxf1.net):
"I think I'm mentally tougher than I've ever been," added Hamilton, now in his 15th season of Formula 1.
"And I think that's a huge part of the whole story. I feel like I've been mentally stronger for a long time, but I've become even more resilient."

So, Lewis is better than ever. Which obviously means it's the car.

Right...
Stronger than ever, yet at the start of the race he slides straight off the track at turn 🙏🤣
God, when you're drunk or just mentally checked out, you can't drive *that* badly...
But hey, he's "strongest ever." 🤦
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#50 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Daniel Ricciardo bailed on Red Bull Racing once he realized there was nothing left for him there besides riding Max Verstappen's coattails.

And don't forget Helmut Marko on the pit wall. 🙂
If we're being honest, Daniel Ricciardo was basically trading blows with Max back in the day when the kid was still wild and unrefined. He saw firsthand how much of a priority Max was to Helmut Marko, and he felt the sting of that reality.

But let's be real—today's Daniel Ricciardo has zero chance next to the current version of Max Verstappen. The kid isn't wild anymore; he's a machine. He’d get smoked just as badly as Alexander Albon, especially given his current standing at Red Bull Racing...
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
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#51 ·
So much dust 🙏

We could see a lot of people pulling out due to overheating here. How high up are we? It feels like we're about 6,500 feet above sea level.

Charles Leclerc and Sergio Perez absolutely wrecked it, hitting the wall in the exact same spot.
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
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#52 ·
It looks like they’re letting way too much dust build up on the brakes and tires. By the time they actually hit the turns, they're just sliding straight off into the grass.
James Harris34 James Harris34 Active Member
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#53 ·
Daniel Ricciardo left Red Bull Racing because he clearly saw they were playing favorites with Max Verstappen, and there was nothing left for him to gain there—and honestly, he was spot on. Even if Red Bull Racing has the fastest car this season, you don't need to be a die-hard fanboy to see that reality; you just need to look at the situation objectively.
James Harris34 James Harris34 Active Member
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#54 ·
stormybadger8 said:What are you guys even watching? 🤔

Red Bull Racing is way better than Mercedes, and Ferrari and McLaren are fast too, but you can actually catch them... Alfa is super dangerous as well, and so is Williams Racing...
Mercedes is just pathetic, easily the worst car on the grid—I mean, we're barely better than Haas F1 Team😳


Flip the ball upside down for Toto Wolff and the rest of the Lewis Hamilton crew🤣

I honestly don't see how Lewis Hamilton could win the title this year...
Because Lewis is having his absolute worst season of the turbo era; he’s making way too many amateur mistakes and embarrassing himself constantly this season. It almost reminds me of that season where he kept crashing into Massive...
How much of a beast Lewis Hamilton is is best shown by the fact that he's still fighting for the title, because with his driving quality this season, he realistically shouldn't even be in the top 3.
And if Nico Rosberg were in the other garage, he would have literally slapped him around this season, and Nico Rosberg would have won the title ages ago☕

Lewis Hamilton is only in the title fight because Max Verstappen lost 75 points in Azerbaijan, the United Kingdom, and Canada (not through his own fault), but those points are gone, and if it wasn't for that, the championship would have been decided long ago. That tells you everything about Red Bull Racing's dominance this season, and the only reason Max Verstappen is doing so well in the standings is purely due to the car, which everyone already declared the undisputed best right after testing. Mercedes might have been better on 4 or 5 tracks, but on all the others, it's Red Bull Racing. It's actually a miracle that Lewis Hamilton is still in the hunt and will probably end up taking it in the end.
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#55 ·
Roger Wright94 said:One DNF for Max Verstappen can be recovered from. One for Lewis Hamilton? Not so much.

There are still five races left and over 130 points on the line.
Anything can happen. Anything can be made up.
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#56 ·
It seems the Americans have once again secured the top spots during the first practice session, mirroring their impressive performance back in Austin.
According to our algorithmic speed projections:
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Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
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#57 ·
I honestly don't think Max Verstappen went all out there. It felt like he was holding back a bit, maybe because he was worried about Sergio Perez's crash. The track was absolutely littered with debris, and everyone was struggling big time with their braking
Susan Davis7 Susan Davis7 Member
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#58 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Just like in Austin, the Americans are looking lightning fast during FP1.

Speed prediction based on the algorithm:

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Max Verstappen on hards
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
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Sam Clark75 Sam Clark75 Active Member
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#60 ·
Total disaster for Ferrari—Richie’s gearbox gave out and Lando barely scraped 12th. Honestly, Franklin is going to steamroll them in this race like it's nothing. 🤦

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