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Hybrid bikes: Hardtail vs. front suspension at the same price point—which is better for casual ridin

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Participants analogseal43Paul Kim8lonebear52Matthew Booth74nimblescout50quietskipper17Casey AllenJames Davis11briskowl5Jesse Sanders39William Miller20Ryan Thomas4Matthew Jackson2bluepuma9Richard Gomez3Sophia Ramos19Andrew Miller102hollowwalker24Kenneth Walker5mellowtiger83Sam Ramos85Gregory Rodriguez9
analogseal43 analogseal43 NewcomerOP
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joined May 2013
#1 ·
I haven't seen anyone talking about this specific situation, so I figured I'd just throw it out there... look... a buddy of mine is trying to convince me that bikes without front suspension aren't even an option because they'll "wreck" your wrists...
-but then again, a rigid bike is faster and lighter (plus way less maintenance since you don't have shocks to mess with), so now I'm stuck second-guessing which way to go...
-I've been eyeing some hybrid models around the $1,100 mark

Thanks.
Paul Kim8 Paul Kim8 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2010
#2 ·
At this price point, you can actually find a fork that isn't total junk.

If you’re even questioning whether you need a suspension fork, you don't.

Wrist issues usually come down to poor technique—people gripping the bars way too tight like they're afraid of falling. You’ve already got built-in shock absorbers: your elbows and knees. Unless you're older or dealing with actual joint problems, there’s no reason to bother with suspension on a commuter bike. Why deal with all that extra weight and maintenance?
lonebear52 lonebear52 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2021
#3 ·
analogseal43 said:I haven't really seen anyone talking about this specific situation, so I figured I'd just ask... basically... a buddy of mine is trying to convince me that bikes without front suspension aren't even an option because they'll just "wreck" your wrists...

Thanks.

Honestly, don't listen to your friend—just use some common sense.
analogseal43 analogseal43 NewcomerOP
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#4 ·
Alright, thanks for the input.

I’m 36 right now, so I'd say I'm in my prime... 😁

Currently, I've got this old 26'' MTB that lets me knock out 5037 miles in about 2 hours. I'm thinking if I picked up something like a Square Inc. road race from 2020 https://www.cube.eu/en/2019/bikes/ro...ckngreen-2019/, I could probably smash that 62 miles in maybe 2 to 2.5 hours...
Plus, this would be my first bike with a rigid fork in basically two decades...
analogseal43 analogseal43 NewcomerOP
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joined May 2013
#5 ·
lonebear52 said:Don't listen to your buddy, just use some common sense.

The guy is constantly out on his bike—way more than I am—so I figured he probably knew what he was talking about... but then again, everything's relative, right? For some people, a rigid frame might actually feel way too harsh without any suspension...
Matthew Booth74 Matthew Booth74 Newcomer
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joined May 2006
#6 ·
If you nail 62 miles in 2.5 hours, I'm buying the beers 🙂
nimblescout50 nimblescout50 Active Member
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joined May 2012
#7 ·
There isn't really one right answer here—it’s all subjective, I guess. Everyone just knows what works for them.
I don't have any suspension myself, though—not that I wouldn't want some from time to time, mind you.
quietskipper17 quietskipper17 Active Member
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joined Apr 2011
#8 ·
If you can whip up 62 miles in just two hours, I'll personally buy you a bike 😁
Casey Allen Casey Allen Newcomer
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joined May 2020
#9 ·
Most decent shock forks come with a built-in lockout mechanism, which basically means you can decide on the fly whether you want active suspension or a rigid feel just by flicking a lever or using a remote on your handlebars. Personally, I wouldn’t dream of picking up a bike without a suspension fork. Unless you’re strictly out there grinding through road races, that extra weight isn't going to hurt you, whereas having a solid, high-quality setup is an absolute godsend on any terrain that isn't perfectly smooth pavement. It isn't even just about being comfortable, either; it’s a safety thing. If you have to slam on the brakes unexpectedly, having a fork that actually absorbs some of that impact significantly lowers your chances of pulling a total wipeout or doing a literal somersault over the bars.
James Davis11 James Davis11 Newcomer
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#10 ·
Casey Allen said:... It’s not just about being comfy, either. It’s safety. If you have to slam on the brakes, you're way less likely to pull a full backflip if your fork is actually absorbing some of that force.

Look, everyone’s got their own thing, I get it. But what you wrote there? Just plain stupid.
Casey Allen Casey Allen Newcomer
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joined May 2020
#11 ·
Physics is just plain complicated.
James Davis11 James Davis11 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2011
#12 ·
Write whatever you want and think you've got me figured out, but honestly? You just look stupid.
Casey Allen Casey Allen Newcomer
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joined May 2020
#13 ·
Try running an endo turn both with and without suspension and let me know how it feels. You're just getting worked up over nothing here; I'm really not looking for a fight.
briskowl5 briskowl5 Newcomer
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joined May 2020
#14 ·
It’s true—the absolute worst part is when you can't pull off an endo turn using a hybrid...
Casey Allen Casey Allen Newcomer
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joined May 2020
#15 ·
briskowl5 said:For real, the absolute worst part is when you’re stuck with a hybrid setup and can't even pull off an endo turn.

Black and White.

It isn't really about whether it’s physically possible or not; it’s more about how painfully obvious it becomes that you have to manhandle the thing just to get that rear end up when you're dealing with a front suspension. Look, expertise comes from actually putting in the hours, so you really need to get out there and try it before you start drawing conclusions.
quietskipper17 quietskipper17 Active Member
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joined Apr 2011
#16 ·
Exactly. And after 31 miles spending the last 10 years riding carbon fiber rigs and high-end air forks, I’ve gotta say—you really haven't a clue what you're talking about.
Casey Allen Casey Allen Newcomer
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joined May 2020
#17 ·
quietskipper17 said:Exactly. And then what? 31 miles Look, I’ve spent the last ten years tearing through trails on high-end carbon rigs equipped with top-tier air forks, and if there’s one thing that experience has taught me, it’s this: you honestly haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

It doesn’t matter how many years you’ve put in, how many miles are on your odometer, or how much you spent on a top-tier carbon frame if you don't actually grasp the basic physics of it all. Anyone can throw money at a problem and pedal harder, but that isn't exactly rocket science.
Jesse Sanders39 Jesse Sanders39 Newcomer
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joined May 2020
#18 ·
James Davis11 said:Look, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, but what you just wrote is pure nonsense.

It’s not nonsense. He’s got a point. A better suspension setup actually gives you a clearer sense of where the braking limit is before the front brake takes over. Generally, more travel and a softer tune equals a better feel.

The suspension also absorbs a bit of that braking energy depending on the fork angle and how much travel you're running, so he isn't entirely wrong. Obviously, it won't stop you from flying over the bars if you dive into a steep descent or brake like a maniac, but it does give you that crucial feedback you need when you're practicing finding the limit.
Casey Allen Casey Allen Newcomer
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joined May 2020
#19 ·
I never actually said it would stop them entirely, just that the odds are lower.

It’s not that I’m partially right; I am completely right. It just seems like you aren't really reading what I'm saying with any actual comprehension.
Jesse Sanders39 Jesse Sanders39 Newcomer
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joined May 2020
#20 ·
quietskipper17 said:Exactly. And after 31 miles spending the last decade riding carbon frames and high-end air forks, I’ve concluded you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

It's a shame you slept through physics class.😁

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