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Participants bluebadger112Sandra Green4northernviper4Rachel RichardsonCharles Jones3Donna Doyle2Drew Ross2Daniel Kelly57hiddenmarlin14Ethan Bailey18Patrick Thomas29Henry Evans10Robert Castillo3shadowjackal82hiddennomad60
northernviper4 northernviper4 Newcomer
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#41 ·
Drew Ross2 said:If you have any ☕ grievances regarding the title, please direct those protests to my inbox via PM... 🐔 rather than cluttering this thread...

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Donna Doyle2 Donna Doyle2 Member
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#42 ·
northernviper4 said:It’s such an absolute joy to be quoting you! 😁

Thanks so much, northernviper4! Honestly, isn't it just the best feeling when you can always count on finding such an amazing atmosphere and nothing but wonderful people right here? 🙂
I’ve been meaning to bug you about some tech stuff a few times now, but honestly, life just kept getting in the way with much more pressing matters! I can't even remember exactly what it was anymore, but don't you worry, because I'll definitely be reaching out with all those questions once it all comes flooding back to me! 😁

Anthony Nguyen81 said:Honestly, I’m just sitting here scratching my head because I can't see any way for us to actually make that switch happen, you know?

Is that the secret code for romance? Because honestly, isn't that just the dream?!
But surely there’s got to be some kind of way to make this work, right?!
You just can't move them all over two by two, because at the end of the day, someone actually has to be in the boat to row it, right?
At first, you probably just send over a single pair, but then the real question starts to bubble up—who's actually going to come back? Is it the husband?

Then you just go ahead and bring in two more women to round out the crew!
Isn't it just funny how it seems like everyone on the other side is a woman?
If you swap out one for the other, don't you think you'll just end up attracting twice as many men?

And that's exactly where the headache starts, isn't it? Because at the end of the day, you actually have to find someone to bring back!
So, you just return one pair and then go ahead and transfer the other one over! Isn't that just the simplest way to handle it?
Well, that’s just a total deadlock, isn't it?! 😂🔥

I really should spend some time browsing around online, because I'm positive there's a solution out there somewhere waiting to be found! :)

Don't go ruining the surprise for yourself! 😁
So, does anyone actually know if there are any limits on how many times we can head out there, or is it just an open invitation? And more importantly, who exactly isn't allowed to hang out with whom? Like, is it totally fine for one person to crash with a couple, or is that against the rules?

northernviper4 said:So, what are the actual rules for switching things over and what kind of moves am I even allowed to make here?
I’ve already gone ahead and mapped out all the floor plans for those cannibals and missionaries, plus that whole wild scenario with the wolf, the goat, and the cabbage! Honestly, if you need me to tackle that one too, why wouldn't I just jump right in? :D

Yeah, they really ought to be telling us that!

Drew Ross2 Asks:
If you have any thoughts or grievances regarding the title, why don't you just shoot me a private message? I'd love to hear what you think!

The title works perfectly, don't you think? 👍
bluebadger112 bluebadger112 Active MemberOP
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#43 ·
👋 Lu 😍 northernviper4, I'll get back to that once I dig up some more info 🙂

Here's a fix for that whole jealous husbands problem across 11 river crossings—I just winged this one, so I'm not 100% sure if it's the absolute most efficient way 😳 . S is the starting bank, C is the destination, W is the wife, M is the husband, () is the boat, the arrow shows direction, and the number k denotes the state after the k-th crossing. White color:

0. S: W1, W2, W3, M1, M2, M3. C:.

1. S: W3, M1, M2, M3. (W1, W2)-> C: W1, W2.

2. S: W2, W3, M1, M2, M3.
3. S: M1, M2, M3. (W2, W3)-> C: W1, W2, W3.

4. S: W1, M1, M2, M3.
5. S: W1, M1. (M2, M3)-> C: W2, W3, M2, M3.

6. S: W1, W2, M1, M2.
7. S: W1, W2. (M1, M2) -> C: W3, M1, M2, M3.

8. S: W1, W2, W3.
...


Only three obvious crossings left 🙂

Quick question: why do carrots last longer if you don't wash them and just leave the dirt on there? 🍿
northernviper4 northernviper4 Newcomer
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#44 ·
bluebadger112 said:👋 Lu 😍 northernviper4, I will get back to you once I manage to uncover something new... 🙂

Here is a solution to the problem regarding those jealous husbands during the eleven river crossings (though, admittedly, I am just eyeballing this, so I cannot be entirely certain if it is the most efficient route 😳). Let S represent the starting bank, C the destination, W representing the wives, M the husbands, () indicates the boat, the arrow denotes the direction of travel, and the integer k preceding each line indicates the state after the k-th crossing. In white:

0. S: W1, W2, W3, M1, M2, M3. C: .

1. S: W3, M1, M2, M3. (W1, W2)-> C: W1, W2.

2. S: W2, W3, M1, M2, M3.

3. S: M1, M2, M3. (W2, W3)-> C: W1, W2, W3.

4. S: W1, M1, M2, M3.

5. S: W1, M1. (M2, M3)-> C: W2, W3, M2, M3.

6. S: W1, W2, M1, M2.

7. S: W1, W2. (M1, M2) -> C: W3, M1, M2, M3.

8. S: W1, W2, W3.

...


There remain three quite obvious crossings left to complete 🙂...

Question: why does a carrot last longer if it isn't washed after being picked and still has soil clinging to it? 🍿

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So, the point is that a wife cannot travel alone or be left alone with another husband—I had originally assumed the rule was simply that she couldn't be left with two of them 🤣
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My mother-in-law is a chef, and she maintains that it is because carrots need to stay dry to prevent rot or spoilage 🍿
. Actually, one can wash them, provided they are dried as thoroughly as possible before being placed in the refrigerator. That way, they will last
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bluebadger112 bluebadger112 Active MemberOP
161 messages
joined Apr 2019
#45 ·
You’ve got a lower opinion of those women than their own husbands do 🙂

My godmother says the secret to making things last is leaving the keys in the ignition 🍿
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#46 ·
Donna Doyle2 said:Thanks, northernviper4—I always find such a positive vibe and wonderful people here. : )

🙂
Donna Doyle2 said:Don't ruin the fun for yourself. 😁
By the way, are there specific limits on how many times one can visit? And who exactly isn't allowed to stay with whom? Is it okay for one person to stay alone with a couple?

Only the husband can stay—and even then, only if his wife is already in the boat.
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@bluebadger112/">@@bluebadger112 👍
Charles Jones3 Charles Jones3 Member
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#47 ·
Gregory Smith21 said:So, how does one actually find system vulnerabilities using Metasploit? 🤔

Most system vulnerabilities stem from exploiting software bugs—specifically things like buffer overflows. And you get there by digging through disassembled machine code... you know, Assembly.

'Akira' would probably just say—well, if you don't know Assembly, you're just a script kiddie, right?

Like I said before. Metasploit is used to find and exploit vulnerabilities that have already been publicly disclosed and patched.

If you're looking for a zero-day, you have to tear every single program apart, down to the tiniest detail. You run it in a debugger, and since you usually won't have the source code—because most programs aren't compiled with -g flags—you're left staring at Assembly code that you have to dissect.

Everything eventually boils down to Assembly, sooner or later.

That’s why engineers and kernel developers are the absolute alpha and omega here—they're the ones capable of tearing any platform apart. But then again, would a high-level engineer really stoop that low just to break into someone else's system?

It's like saying a surgeon knows more than a GP, even though they're both technically doing the same job. Honestly, if you want to hack or find weaknesses, you don't even need Assembly or a debugger; you just use a standard vulnerability scanner that's already out there—unless, of course, you're trying to write your own scanner from scratch just to reinvent the wheel.

The days of hacking in C and Assembly are long gone; nowadays, hacking is a much more "elite" endeavor.
Daniel Kelly57 Daniel Kelly57 Active Member
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joined Sep 2016
#48 ·
Man, this is awesome! Is northernviper4 gonna be posting pics here too, maybe showing off some sexy outfits and glasses while she gives her lectures?😵
Sandra Green4 Sandra Green4 Newcomer
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#49 ·
Charles Jones3 said:It is somewhat like claiming a surgeon knows more than a general practitioner when they both essentially practice different disciplines. Besides, if you are looking to hack or identify weaknesses, you don't really need any Assembly or a debugger; a basic vulnerability scanner that already exists should suffice, unless you are trying to write your own scanner just to reinvent the wheel.

I suppose your issue stems from the fact that you aren't looking at the depth of the process, which makes your perspective seem a bit superficial and perhaps misguided. In computer science, things are studied quite systematically and thoroughly, rather than by avoiding certain segments that one might personally deem unimportant, even if one doesn't fully grasp why they matter.

A vulnerability scanner simply recognizes flaws within its predefined parameters, which are usually vulnerabilities listed in the CVE database that have already been patched.

To find zero-day vulnerabilities, one must locate a software bug that hasn't been noticed yet, which requires analyzing Assembly code since you won't have the source. Then, you have to run the program in a debugger so you can monitor every single process and the state of the memory, just to get a detailed insight into the core of everything.

Charles Jones3 said:The days of hacking where everything was done in C and Assembly are long gone; nowadays, hacking is considered much more elite.

🤣

I wonder, though, how zero-day vulnerabilities will ever be created if everyone chooses to use these "more elite" methods? 🤔

C and Assembly exist at the lower levels, and therefore they are indispensable and will never stop being used.

The problem with all this "elite" stuff is that it oversimplifies things to the point where users of such tools deal less and less with memory management, the kernel, and other essential processes; then, when a major issue arises, they are unable to resolve it due to their lack of knowledge.

The reason why a high-level language like Java cannot compete with Assembly at the low level is that with Java, you will never truly be able to manipulate the hardware directly in a program-to-hardware relationship—perhaps you can manage it through a program-to-kernel-to-hardware relationship, but you lose efficiency there because the kernel restricts access to hardware resources.

I am actually quite glad I realized early on that high-level programming languages weren't really for me, mainly because I wanted to manipulate hardware at the lowest possible level. That is why I focused on Assembly and bare-metal programming, as it allows for a much better understanding of how a processor works.

Whenever someone mentions Java and the Metasploit framework as if they were primary hacking concepts, I immediately realize their level of expertise, and it is honestly quite pitiful.

I would truly love to see how you "hackers" using Java and Metasploit would break into a machine that doesn't use x86, ARM, or some other common processor architecture, without having Linux or Windows installed, and all of that without knowing any Assembly. I am genuinely curious how that would work. 🤣
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#50 ·
Gaming session 😁
bluebadger112 bluebadger112 Active MemberOP
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joined Apr 2019
#51 ·
Everything's cool—Assembly ++. Hacking is basically just a social construct.
hiddenmarlin14 hiddenmarlin14 Active Member
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joined Feb 2018
#52 ·
Hey, can you explain this using something simple, like potatoes and carrots? 🕺 Just asking. If it’s too complicated for that, I'm out. 🙂
Ethan Bailey18 Ethan Bailey18 Active Member
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joined Oct 2015
#53 ·
hiddenmarlin14 said:Look, could you explain this using something simple like potatoes and carrots? 🕺 Just asking. If you can't, I'm out. 🙂

I’d settle for an explanation involving beans, too. 🕺
Patrick Thomas29 Patrick Thomas29 Member
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#54 ·
I’m seriously going to sue all of you🙂>

But since the U.S. Constitution and our legal code are pretty clear on
the principle of legality, basically:

Article 1.
No one can be punished for an act that wasn't already established as a crime by law or international treaty before it happened, and you can't be handed down a sentence or any other criminal sanction that wasn't already defined by law.

So, I have to prove you're guilty, which means you guys are definitely guilty🙂

Especially Mjan ☕
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#55 ·
hiddenmarlin14 said:Look—could you explain this using something simple, like potatoes and carrots? 🕺 I’m just asking—if it can't be broken down that way, I’ll just step aside right now. 🙂

Ever heard that old riddle about the wolf, the goat, and the cabbage? 😁
hiddenmarlin14 hiddenmarlin14 Active Member
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#56 ·
Anthony Nguyen81 said:Ever heard that old riddle about the wolf, the goat, and the cabbage? 😁

🤔 I have zero clue 🤷 how the goat turned the cabbage into a salad for the wolf, leaving him full and the goat totally fine. 🤔
Sandra Green4 Sandra Green4 Newcomer
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#57 ·
Chloe Cooper10 said:I suppose I could wrap my head around even the most basic stuff if I had to.🕺

I don't think you actually need to understand anything at all, really. It seems like being a script kiddie is more than enough to get by.🤣
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#58 ·
hiddenmarlin14 said:🤔 I honestly can't wrap my head around 🤷 how a goat could turn a wolf into a cabbage salad—leaving the wolf full and the goat completely intact? 🤔

http://www.mathisfun.com/logic-puzzles/wolf-goat-cabbage.html
😬
Ethan Bailey18 Ethan Bailey18 Active Member
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#59 ·
Gregory Smith21 said:You don't actually need to understand how any of this works. It’s plenty easy enough if you just want to be a script kiddie. 🤣

I had to look it up myself.🙂
I'm qualified. Except for one minor detail. For the most part, I'm not a minor. 🕺
Sandra Green4 Sandra Green4 Newcomer
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#60 ·
Chloe Cooper10 said:I suppose I found myself having to resort to a Google search.🙂
I suppose I am quite qualified. There is just one minor detail to consider, though. For the most part, I am an adult. 🕺

It matters very little whether one is a minor or an adult; I suppose the real issue lies in the fact that some people use hacking tools like Metasploit without actually understanding how they function under the hood. 🤣

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