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Hate speech in signatures?

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Participants Susan Price30Ethan Phillipscrimsonhound80rustydrifter10restlesscanyon52Sam Alvarez4Peter Morgan3Charles Fox10cosmicmoose2velvetskipper11Casey BennettThomas Morgan67William Bennett53
Casey Bennett Casey Bennett Regular
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joined Nov 2011
#21 ·
It seems some people truly struggle to grasp the definition of hate speech. Just take a look at Frankenstein's post above; he manages to squeeze in one single slur right before his own comment.
Thomas Morgan67 Thomas Morgan67 Member
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joined Jan 2018
#22 ·
I generally prefer to stay out of these debates, but I suffer from some serious professional biases when it comes to matters like this.

I’m going to provide three examples inside quotation marks and italics, followed by four possible public interpretations derived from different versions of this text, each altering the original meaning.

It’s much like that unfortunate misplaced comma in a Pity poem...

"Smart people learn from the mistakes of others, fools learn from their own, and Americans don't even learn even from their own mistakes."

Americans are worse than fools. It’s all because of that one little "even"...

"Smart people learn from the mistakes of others, fools learn from their own, and Americans don't learn from the mistakes of others."

Americans are just like fools. They are on the exact same level. They are fools.

"Smart people learn from the mistakes of others, fools learn from their own, and Americans don't learn from mistakes."

Americans fall outside both of those categories. They aren't smart because they don't learn from others' mistakes, yet they aren't stupid because they don't learn from their own.

Or perhaps Americans simply never make mistakes at all.

Because we lack specific information regarding the author's actual intent, we can't definitively conclude what their stance is on failing to learn from anyone's mistakes. Perhaps the author is suggesting that Americans don't make mistakes at all. Consequently, we cannot determine if the author views Americans as fools, as being worse than fools, or if they were simply trying to point out that Americans are perfect.
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 RegularOP
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joined Feb 2017
#23 ·
cosmicmoose2 said:.......

"Jews are to blame for the Holocaust"; "Black people are an inferior race"; "Women are only good for breeding"; "Mexicans are a genocidal people"; "All Muslims are terrorists"


I provided examples of hate speech targeting different groups based on various criteria. When you compare them, it’s obvious that what you mentioned above isn't even close to actual hate speech. It might be offensive to some, but it certainly isn't to me.

Are you brain-damaged or something?

Between directly or indirectly implying "all Muslims are terrorists" versus "all Americans are complete idiots"—what exactly is the difference?

Fine, if you say so... let's hear it then.

Plus, looking at the previous example, Chucky thinks claiming "San Francisco is a fascist city" counts as hate speech because it insults everyone involved (to emphasize again: all —every resident of a single city—and he's right about that, because in that post, every San Franciscan is clearly being insulted. Just because one person from San Francisco might not "feel" insulted while another does doesn't change the fact that publicly writing something like that is classic hate speech.
William Bennett53 William Bennett53 Regular
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joined Sep 2016
#24 ·
The moderators on this forum are actual human beings, not some soulless computer algorithms, for at least two distinct reasons. First off, it’s simply more cost-effective. Second, unlike an algorithm, a person can actually weigh what someone has written and interpret it within its proper context. No one among the moderation team—at least from my observation of their responses—mistook this particular instance of self-deprecation for hate speech; they saw it for what it was: irony. I certainly don't believe it qualifies as anything else.
To prevent this thread from needlessly dragging on for another two pages, I’m going to close it here. If the administrator feels the need to make a further statement, she is welcome to do so while the thread is locked.

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