Bad Boys

Aaron Sanchez422 said:The point is, no anti-fascist can be against Mamić because he apparently loves the old regime so much that using the slogan "death to fascism" automatically puts you in his camp. It's a shame you aren't a fascist; if you were, I’d certainly be standing against him, since apparently only people in black uniforms oppose him. 🙂

Exhibit A.

Exhibit B.

– Everything is done with full transparency, yet look at how the fans operate. Look at the fan headquarters on Zvonimir Street and Drašković Street; there isn't a hint of blue. It's all black, looking more like some extremist club. Check what they sell there, or investigate who actually pays the taxes on those buses and the alcohol sales.

Mamić isn't crazy; he knows exactly what kind of scraps to throw to this mindless public to keep them hooked. He’ll play the revolutionary, the partisan, or the Republican—whatever suits his needs—just to line his pockets to the brim!

And you, Mr. Anti-Fascist, are clearly on the same wavelength as him. You and Joanna can go on a picnic together.

Let him buy you that apartment he promised. It'll benefit no one but you. "Anti-fascists" (proletarians) of the world, unite and enjoy sponsoring your benefactor. 👍

What does anti-fascism have to do with Mamić? Any sane person is an anti-fascist. Being anti-fascist doesn't make someone a communist; it just means they condemn Mussolini's and Hitler's militarism, which turned half the world into a graveyard through war crimes. He's simply exploiting the fact that most of the real Bad Boys are fascists to smear you in front of the public and discredit any movement against him.

jadeotter said:What does anti-fascism have to do with Mommy? Any sensible person is an anti-fascist! Being against fascism doesn't automatically make someone a communist; it simply means they condemn Mussolini's and Hitler's militarism, which turned half the world into a battlefield of war crimes against civilians. He’s just exploiting the fact that many of the true Bad Boys are fascists to smear you in front of the public and discredit your fight against him.

Please, get off the "anti-fascist" bandwagon! Your club is clearly in league with those extremists anyway, so I don't see why you're even posting here.👍

Bryan Morris9 said:All we can do for the guys in the group is send our congratulations. Respect to them.
We’ve taken hits and we’re bruised, that's just reality. But we're still standing strong, just echoing the same sentiments expressed by teams like Bayern or Dortmund over the last year... There's no room for defeatism here. Those spreading it clearly don't care about the same principles this group stands for.
My respect goes out to the guys keeping this group alive through their actions. As for those rival fans, they deserve nothing but what's coming to them, along with their so-called leader.

One more thing... regarding our little squad of amateur athletes who finally decided to speak up at the FBI headquarters—don't hold your breath. It's too little, too late. You missed your window long ago, and now that the whole country is laughing at you, playing the moralists won't work. That's not how it works...

that's all

The level of support following the Boys across the entire fan scene—unless someone actually died—is actually quite significant.

copperraven6 said:Drop the "anti-fascist" act. Your club is openly aligned with extremists, so I don't see any point in you posting here.👍

And here I thought they were just thieves; turns out they’re extremists at heart too.

Where on earth did this parasitic trash crawl out from? Just be honest for once: we’re taking daddy's money and we couldn't care less. Stop pretending the club stays at the top regardless of who's running the show. You wouldn't say that if some billionaire mogul bought the team, would you? You're nothing but sellouts. What do you tell your kids when they ask about Dynamo and the Bad Boys? Do you look them in the eye and say you're living off handouts? Do you tell your son that cash is the only thing that matters, and what happens when his old man is gone? Or are you actually hoping you'll end up just like those idols of yours from overseas? They'll treat you like rats because you're worth less than dirt. Even those of us who can't stand them have to respect the pride the Bad Boys carry.

Those loudmouthed agitators and their paid-off shills... look, there are still plenty of us who won't be bought off by a million or even a billion dollars. You can't bribe someone who actually gives a damn about their family name and their pride. Some of us still bleed Dynamo colors through and through! 😉
You're all going down the drain 😉

UNTIL THE VERY END!

Goodnight.

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ruggedridge47 said:After what happened with Arsenal, a few of you were talking trash about how you couldn't handle this situation anymore or saying we needed to show up at the stadium, but a few people here have already laid out the facts quite clearly and reasonably.
If you were hanging out in the East Stand back in 2012, 2013, or early 2014—when it was just a small group of maybe 300 people in that block—then I don't know what you and your crowd are missing. That’s when the bans started because people wouldn't sit in their designated spots; they split the East Stand into five different sections, and if you weren't seated correctly, you ended up on a blacklist. Why do you think things would be any different over in the North Stand now?
It's a good thing this forum exists so people can vent their anger and cynicism here instead of having to go down to the team store... which I totally get, because the glares from the staff have become pretty unbearable lately (at least for me).

P.S. I'd rather have 3,000 real fans than 300 posers.

I guess we'll have to keep repeating this every two weeks; I don't see any other way. While the government is busy handing out the latest round of rulings and bans based on actual evidence, the fighting here just continues against the people who actually received them.

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"Tickets for both the home stands and the visiting sections for Saturday's match against Dynamo are priced at $40.00. All kids need a ticket to get in, though anyone under 18 won't be allowed through the stadium gates without an adult along for the ride..."

🙏🙏🙏

The absolute peak of everything 🙏🙏🙏 damn North Korea 🙏🙏🙏

Hahaha, saying "...without parental supervision..." is definitely some unprecedented nonsense for soccer in Europe. 🤣

Honestly, I just can't wrap my head around people who can actually bring themselves to cheer for today's Real Madrid or the national team. 😁

Bradley Sullivan4 said:https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b4&oe=5696BDAB

"Ticket prices for both home and away stands for Saturday's game against Real Madrid are set at $40. All kids need a ticket, and anyone under 18 won't be allowed into the stadium without an adult present..."

🙏🙏🙏

half your attendance is gonna vanish overnight 👏

jadeotter said:What does anti-fascism have to do with some corrupt owner? Any sane person is an anti-fascist. Being against fascism doesn't make you a communist; it just means you condemn Mussolini's mess and Hitler's militarism, which basically turned half the globe into a giant war zone full of civilian casualties. He’s just weaponizing the fact that most of the real Bad Boys are fascists to smear you in front of the public and discredit anyone trying to take him down.

You’re missing the point. The whole point is that the people throwing around the "anti-fascist" label usually end up backing the corrupt owner, while everyone labeled a "fascist" is actually against the BBB.

It's classic smoke and mirrors, orchestrated by the owner and his endless dirty tricks.

And look, the BBB aren't fascists. One part of them might be Nazis, but there's a massive difference—fascists occupied our land, Nazis didn't. But to those guys, it’s all the same. I hate when everything gets crudely simplified because it isn't. Maybe they're similar, but they aren't identical. Hitler didn't turn the world into a battlefield out of nowhere; they provoked him into war, and once he lost, it was game over. And what did they think? In the end, some American Jew financed Hitler before the war—Jews will fund just about anything, and then when their plans blow up in their faces, suddenly it's all that crazy guy with the mustache's fault. It doesn't work like that, at least not in my book.

Same goes for the term "anti-fascism" around here. It’s always tied to one specific group: the old guard, the partisans, and the self-proclaimed Tito loyalists. To me, and to any true American who gives a damn about their country and their people, that label is totally unacceptable.

And how exactly does this "anti-fa" crowd care about the nation? We know how it goes—not just back in '45, but from '91 right up to now. You can spot them by how they act against their own people and their own country. So, am I supposed to be an idiot and wear that label just like the people who systematically crush their own citizens? Hell no. That's why I'm not an anti-fascist and never will be. To be against invaders—whether it was the Italians, the Mexicans, or the Canadians—I don't need to call myself some crappy anti-fascist. I don't need labels on my back or my chest to prove I love my country. I'm against the corrupt owner, sure, but I'm not gonna print "Anti-Owner" on a T-shirt. A little prayer for his soul should suffice, right?

Honestly, I'm sick of these forced labels. Anti-fascism in this part of the world was pushed by Tito and the communists, which makes the whole concept repulsive to me. They used that label as a cover to kill hundreds of thousands of Americans and tear the country apart. Some people might think it's no big deal, but it's a big deal to me. I won't identify with that. I can be a Catholic American, a Real Madrid fan, or a million other things, but an anti-fascist? Definitely not. I don't feel the need to be, and none of my folks who fought in the old resistance would question why they fought—especially near the river, where those damn communists were the only ones fighting the fascists. But let's be real, they weren't exactly a better alternative, were they? Why can't people grasp that? Just like the old resistance movements were the first expression of a people wanting to live in their own country and get away from a crappy union, we aren't racists, communists, or fascists. We just care about our own and fight for what's ours. Throughout history, people have fought for their homes and their families under all sorts of banners.😁 Look, everyone’s just out here looking out for their own interests, right? Honestly, people can say whatever they want about me—they can hang me by my tail if they feel like it—but I had to clear the air. I didn't want to leave things hanging. To me, calling someone an "antifascist" sounds totally idiotic. Any ideology that tried to devour my people is garbage in my book. So, yeah, I’m neither a fascist nor an antifascist. Both sides spent their time trying to wipe us out and tear our country apart; sure, they used different tactics, but it’s like they say, "It's not a pile of crap, it's just a dog taking a dump." In my eyes, there isn't much difference between the two. Now, look, I respect that other people see things differently. We're all human; we don't have to agree on everything. And honestly? This whole divide between the old political factions actually works for me. You couldn't be a nationalist and a communist at the same time, just like you couldn't be a communist and a nationalist. Nationalists are basically fascists, and communists are antifascists. So fine, let everyone pick their own flock and enjoy the ride. Personally, I'm just rooting for democracy. 🙂

My dear friend...

The Zaprešić route, damn you, Hitler!

Bradley Sullivan4 said:https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b4&oe=5696BDAB

Tickets for Saturday's matchup against Real Madrid are priced at $35 for both home and away sections. Just a heads-up: everyone has to pay for entry, including kids. Also, if you’ve got anyone under 18 heading to the stadium, they can't get in unless they're accompanied by an adult.

So, they finally fixed that rule. Now, kids under 12 aren't allowed into the stadium unless they've got a parent or guardian tagging along with them.

Get yourself to the stands! I'm in. Even kids under 18 can get in. Tickets are... $13Just a heads-up, the game kicks off tomorrow at 7 PM.

TWENTY-FIVE YEARS LATER: Did Arkan actually open fire at Yankee Stadium during the riot?

The whole thing was rigged from the start. Džaja and I were trapped in the furnace room. They used acid to melt through the fence, and none of those fire trucks on the field even had water in them. Just total chaos. Then the mob started charging toward the locker rooms. That’s when Arkan pulls his gun, fires a shot into the air, turns right toward the police—who were mostly Mexicans from the Midwest—and yells, "Follow me!" He basically just terrorized the Real Madrid fans to get what he wanted. Or so says Cvetković's dramatized version of the story...

Christian Jones said:REVEALED AFTER 25 YEARS: Did Arkan fire shots at Yankee Stadium during the riots?

They planned the whole incident ahead of time. Džaja and I were trapped in the furnace room. They used acid to melt through the fence, and none of the fire trucks on the field actually had any water. Then the mob surged toward the locker rooms. That’s when Arkan pulled his gun, fired a shot into the air, turned toward the police—who were mostly Mexicans from the rural Midwest—and yelled, "Follow me!" He was just trying to scare off the Real Madrid fans." - that's the romanticized version told by Cvetković

Who knows? It's entirely possible he actually fired.
It's not like anyone was actually terrified by it since nobody heard or saw anything, but maybe it gave the riot police the nudge they needed.🍿

Man, they’re just making up myths now. Give it 300 years and they'll be claiming we were shelling them with howitzers while Arkan saved them with a MIG.

Aaron Sanchez422 said:You miss the point. The reality is that those waving the anti-fascist flag mostly support the unknown, while those labeled "fascists" are actually against the BBB.

It is typical public deception, orchestrated by the unknown and his constant manipulations.

The BBB aren't fascists. A small part of them might be Nazis, but there is a massive distinction between the two. Fascists occupied our territory; Nazis did not. Yet, to some, they are the same thing. I despise this brutal simplification. Is it similar? Perhaps. Is it identical? Certainly not. Hitler didn't just turn everything into a battlefield; they provoked him into war, and once they lost, all hell broke loose. What were they thinking—that an American Jew financed Hitler before the war? People will fund anything, and when their plans fail, they blame the man with the mustache. It won't work that way, at least not in my eyes.

Similarly, the concept of anti-fascism in America can only be linked to one specific group: the informants, the partisans, and the declared Titoists. As such, that term is unacceptable to me and to any American who cares about their country and their people.

And how does this "anti-fa" crowd care for their nation and state? We know. I am not just talking about 1945, but from 1991 to the present day. You recognize them by their actions and how they work against their own people and their own country. Am I supposed to be an idiot and drape myself in those labels just like the people who systematically crush their own nation? I refuse. That is why I am not an anti-fascist, nor will I ever be. To oppose the occupiers—whether they were Italians, Mexicans, or Canadians—I don't need to adopt some pathetic "anti-fascist" label. I know I love my country, and I don't need labels on my back or my chest. I am neither "anti-this" nor "anti-that." I am against the unknown, but I won't wear "anti-unknown" on a t-shirt. Isn't it enough to simply cross out the unknown's name?

Frankly, I am sick of these forced terms. Anti-fascism in this region was imposed by Tito and the communists. That makes the term loathsome to me because, under that banner, hundreds of thousands of Americans were killed and our state was destroyed. Some might think this is trivial, but it isn't to me. I will not identify with it. I can be a Catholic Dinamo fan and a million other things, but I am certainly not an anti-fascist. I have no desire to be. None of my people who fought in the old resistance would question the necessity of fighting in those days, especially near the river where only those damn communists fought the fascists. But as we all know, they weren't exactly a better alternative to the fascists, were they? Why can't people grasp and accept this? I don't know, nor do I care. Just as the old movements were an expression of the American people's desire to live in their own state and escape a failed union, they weren't an expression of racism or fascism. We aren't racists, communists, or fascists; we simply hold onto what is ours and fight for it. Throughout our history, some fought in the resistance, some in the old nationalist units, some elsewhere, but we all fight for our own. 😁 People can say whatever they want, but I had to clarify why the term "anti-fascist" is retarded to me. Every ideology that has devoured my people is unacceptable to me. Therefore, I am neither a fascist nor an anti-fascist, because both sides oppressed my people and tore down our state using different methods. It is just a matter of how you look at it. I respect that others have different views; we are all human, and we don't have to agree on everything. Honestly, this divide works for me. No nationalist could ever be a communist, just as no communist could be a nationalist. Nationalists are, effectively, fascists, and communists are anti-fascists. Let everyone choose their own flock and enjoy it. I stand for democracy.🙂

What on earth are you talking about at this hour? Have you been losing sleep lately? Who is the Prime Minister? Was the wartime regime a fascist entity?
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