Bad Boys

I feel a deep sense of distress regarding this current state of affairs, which seems to be slowly devolving into a sort of passive indifference. I’ve reached a point where I no longer have the heart for away games or cheering from a young age; even though I am posting under a different handle to help manage the server load, the sentiment remains the same. For a very long time now, this hasn't felt like a club you can truly identify with, especially when the dwindling attendance at matches feels more like watching a slow fading of life itself. In my view, nimblecobra42 is perhaps the closest to the actual truth, whereas others might just be echoing it without fully feeling its weight. As for Daniel Carter9, it is difficult to pinpoint the exact number of people who—even if only in their hearts or here on the forum—were rooting for Joe, hoping he would finally move past this period of stagnation.

Joseph Parker11 said:Honestly, this whole situation is gutting me. It’s infuriating how things are sliding into this fake, polite indifference where nobody even wants to show up or cheer from a young age anymore. I'm posting under Dr. Nik's account just to keep the server running, but let's be real: for a long time now, this hasn't been a club you can actually feel proud to belong to. Every time we skip a game, it feels like a slow bleed. In my opinion, nimblecobra42 is hitting closest to the mark here, while everyone else is just echoing what they already know. As for the professor—I know for a fact there’s a specific group of people who were secretly, or even openly on this forum, rooting for Joe, all in the hopes he’d finally kick this idiot out.

If anyone manages to get him out, it doesn't even matter who pulls the trigger.
Whether it’s Joe or Ivo, the only thing that matters is that he’s gone.

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Coca-Cola and the Red Sox in the same group, while those thugs follow the Red Sox through the EuroLeague...

Tomo, you could've posted this in a different thread. Our whole group went to donate blood on October 9th, so we're still sidelined for a bit. Besides, this pretty much applies to everyone anyway.

William Williams21 said:Tomo, you really should’ve posted this in a different thread. Our group already went out to donate blood back on October 9th, so we aren't eligible to go again just yet. Besides, this affects everyone anyway.

If anyone can swing by the local clinic, please do. At the end of the day, it's just about people looking out for one another.

Carl Mitchell45 said:Coca-Cola and the Lakers in the same group, and those guys are just following the Lakers around in the EuroLeague...

They can follow all they want, but it doesn't matter if New York City isn't even on their travel itinerary...

I’m reading today that Svetina and Barisic are talking about the privatization of Dinamo. Apparently, everything is pretty much set for a sale next year. We all know they don't have the legal or legitimate authority to make a call like that. But there's something else on my mind. Where does the money actually go when a non-profit organization like this gets sold? Does anyone know what the law says about that? Is it dictated by the specific bylaws of the association, or is there some general federal law that covers all non-profits? I'm wondering how those guys plan to spin this. What rights do the members actually have during a sale, assuming there even are any? If anyone feels like explaining, I'd appreciate it.

I mean, wouldn't it be common sense for that cash to actually go back into the city? Look, once this public club goes private—just like how every other major corporation was flipped during the big privatization waves—it changes everything. Private property is protected by law; there’s basically no legal way for them to just snatch it away from you once it's signed over. In other words, the second the club shifts to private ownership, the whole fight for a supporter-owned model is dead in the water. So, if we're talking about top-tier pro soccer, dissatisfied fans are really left with only two moves:
a) show up at the stadium and make some noise
b) start their own club from scratch using whatever model they want

The moment privatization is finalized, this club is effectively dead on arrival. From a legal standpoint, our hands will be tied completely. Any attempts at alternative forms of action will simply be shut down by Ostojic and his loyalists, all acting under the direction of a single individual. So, what exactly are we discussing? We are talking about a privatization process dictated by an illegal board whose leader is currently facing multiple investigations, while the Department of Defense turns a blind eye to the whole mess.🤣
It’s a farce played out by both the government and the public alike...

Honestly, the whole idea of profits from an association sale going straight to the government doesn't sit right with me. Maybe I’m just misreading the situation, but in this country, you really can't rule anything out.
Anyway, good luck to everyone involved in that fight..

Steven Murphy2 said:Wouldn't it be perfectly logical for the proceeds to stay within the city? Once a public club undergoes privatization—much like how various corporations were transitioned during the era of massive restructuring—it becomes private property. At that point, ownership is legally protected, leaving no regulatory framework through which it could be seized. In other words, once the club transitions to private hands, any struggle to maintain a supporters' trust or membership model is essentially lost. For disillusioned fans of top-tier soccer, this leaves them with really only two viable paths:
a) return to the stadium to protest
b) establish their own club following a preferred model instead.

c) continue fighting for an honest, fair, and lawful organization, because if that were already the case, we wouldn't even be facing the situation you're describing.

I mean, shouldn't all that cash stay right where it belongs—with the association being privatized?

Scott Jones9 said:c) we have to keep fighting for an honest, decent, and lawful club; if we weren't doing that, things wouldn't have escalated to what you're describing.

D) Ban the club from European competition for as many years as possible...

I’m just as confused as anyone else—if they're actually planning on privatization, why on earth do they think a single "majority owner" is going to keep this whole group together? They seem to assume everyone will just vote quietly because nobody wants to risk getting fired from the "top company in the country."
If that's the case, then we're looking at a scripted scenario involving the Dallas Cowboys all over again.
And frankly, that kind of thing has never happened before...

bluebear42 said:D) Ban the club from international competition for as many years as possible...

I’m just as confused as everyone else. If they’re actually pushing for privatization, why on earth do they think a "majority owner" can just keep this whole group together? They expect everyone to sit there and vote peacefully because they’re too scared of losing their jobs at what’s supposedly the "top company in the country"?
If that's the case, we're looking at the exact same rigged playbook they used with the Dinamo situation.
And honestly, seeing this kind of shady maneuvering is nothing new...

It’s because there's a very real chance one of those "insiders" pulls out some paperwork claiming they personally loaned the club hundreds of millions of dollars. Then, suddenly, that debt gets converted into equity.
One guy—could be a big-shot executive or some board member—claims he's owed the cash, someone else nods and confirms it's true, and boom: just like that, they've manufactured their ownership stake.

There are actually examples in Europe where fans of privatized clubs fight to get their teams back from the owners.
For instance, look at teams like Panathinaikos...

I mean, it’s probably impossible to compare the struggle for Dinamo to the situation with Hajduk, especially since the Bad Boys have been defined as the club's main enemies by boycotting them from day one. Plus, Dinamo is technically a non-profit association, so under American law, they’re supposed to let members vote for the leadership.
All of this happened because the previous administration basically did nothing. Even after being in power for four years with clear laws in place, they didn't act—it felt more like they were working for the other side.
There was recently a protest outside the Department of Education, right as the club officials are having their final meetings to push through total privatization.

I guess I wonder if there are any legal ways to void a privatization if you can prove that institutions just turned a blind eye to the law. Or if it can be challenged because the board running the association wasn't actually elected by the members, which is what the law requires.

It’s just a desperate scramble for straws at this point... everyone trying to cling to the Lakers for dear life, squeezing out every last cent they can before they slip through the cracks unnoticed... but after everything that's gone down, I think their time is officially up. The streets of Los Angeles are laughing at them, and deep down, they know it. It’s that old saying—you can try all you want, you can act however you please, but you can't cheat the system forever. It's finally catching up to them. Honestly, half of them have probably already folded under pressure... nothing but cooks and drivers playing finger games, snitching on one another because they're all cut from the same cloth. There won't be any big buyout or private equity rescue coming, folks. Just selling smoke and mirrors... I'm just sitting here waiting to watch them tear each other apart... tick tock 🙂

$200 million is pocket change for a group of thieves like that; they’ll just scrape off a fraction of it. It’s like Harvey Weinstein could pull that kind of money out of thin air himself... they bled this club dry and spent years tanking its reputation just to tank the valuation. My biggest fear is that once they're done stripping the assets, we'll be left with nothing. Are we really supposed to sit here and trust some toothless government agencies to step in and undo the privatization? Yeah, right. Like that'll ever happen.